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Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« on: March 01, 2012, 05:02:00 PM »
Hi all,
 About 5 weeks ago, I attempted to side veneer graft a piece of my Coconut Cream mango on to a Manila mango that I picked up at a local nursery.  I had never attempted to graft a mango before and had not done any grafting at all it about 10 years so I was not hoping for much.  Well, it appears that the graft is taking, and pushing new growth through the parafilm.  I'll call it beginner's luck.


Anyway, my question to those more experienced than I is when should I cut off the top of the root stock?  Or should I not remove it at all and allow it to be a two variety tree? 


Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.






Emerging growth on the scion



The whole plant



Emerging growth in the rootstock


Thanks,
Richard


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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 05:06:11 PM »
You're not out of the woods yet, but it looks good.  Keep doing what you are doing.  Maybe you should be teaching us.

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 05:19:21 PM »
Congratulations. "It ain't bragging if you can do it"--   attributed to Babe Ruth also Dizzy Dean.

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 05:21:30 PM »
Richard,
After the new growth of the bud wood harden off, I would decapitate the rootstock.  I have done a few graft, and I am not an expert.

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 05:36:54 PM »
Good work. Wait until it finishes to flush out. It's still possible that the graft fails at this point.
Jeff  :-)

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 09:51:34 PM »
Congrats Rtreid!

You got to come over my house to teach me.

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 10:58:44 PM »
Thanks all for the comments, and I will take the consensus advice and wait a while to let (or should I say hope) the graft flush out before doing anything.  It still has a way to go, but so far so good.

It felt good to be grafting again, it had been so long, I was afraid I had forgotten how to do it.  I also did three cherry trees and most of those grafts appear to have taken as well.  So if all goes well, later this spring/summer I will  a coconut cream mango as well as two Royal Lee/Minnie Royal cherry trees available free to good homes in the Southern California area

Richard

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 12:34:00 AM »
Damn my jealousy!  Good job Rtreid..... >:(

...and I wouldn't say it's beginners luck if you've done it
in the past...

So you're batting 1000% this year....hmmmmmm....
suspiciously perfect....



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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 10:18:03 AM »
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...So you're batting 1000% this year....hmmmmmm....
suspiciously perfect....
ROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D


I hope it's 100% take for you, maybe it's Karma (from you wanting to give it out for free) but I think it's all skills.  Didn't you mention pretty good experience grafting temperate fruits & avocados in the past?  It'd be nice to leech off your grafting knowledge in the future.
Tim

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 03:02:53 PM »
Mangofang-

Not perfect yet!  As those more experienced have said, I can still lose the mango.  And I'll be quite surprised if one of the cherry trees really does take although it is has been pushing out growth for 4 weeks now.  It is amazing how hard it is to get a straight cut when a 5 year old is pulling on your leg saying " daddy, daddy let's go play princess."

The beginners luck was for my first attempt with a mango (and cherry). Like I said, for now I am just hoping things continue on their present course.

Tim-

I had done a pretty good amount of grafting with peaches, plums and apricots and became pretty proficient at it.  But that was a long time ago.  My avocado experience was much more limited but I did have some success.  Interestingly the only plant that I was totally unable to graft was grapes. I was 0 for probably 50 in those and grape grafting is supposed to be easy.  Go figure

I am looking forward to practicing some more with mangos and other tropicals as I can acquire root stock and scion wood.


Richard

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 03:23:02 PM »
the way i learned how to harden off those side veneer grafts, is to wait for the scion to flush an entire set of leaves, once they are fully formed, crack the protruding piece of the rootstock so it is still connected by cambium and nourishing the tree, but now your new terminal branch should be the scion.

Once the scion has flushed again, it's safe to cut the broken piece of rootstock off, that was hanging by a thread of bark.

Hey isn't coco cream patented?  Coconut sensation u mean! ;)

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 07:26:14 PM »
Nice Richard!  I just attempted my first ever graft in my whole life a couple of days ago as well.  It is also a veneer side graft, a mallika scion onto a glenn that I grew from supermarket-bought seed.  Since I've never grafted before, I wanted to experiment, and had a scion available after pugging my mallika.

So did you leave your tree in the sun outside, or have it indoors?

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 07:37:39 PM »
Richard,

Great job grafting, I have not had a successful graft yet. I have only tried a few things though. I would love to get some tips and experience, maybe sometime we could have a grafting meetup and plant exchange.
Grow mainly fruits, vegetables, and herbs.

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Re: Mango grafting question (and a slight brag)
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 02:01:18 AM »
Nicely done Richard! I broke off a branch from by Lancetilla today by accident so I'll be doing some grafting this weekend.  Are you the same Richard that tried the durian plant at your home?

cheers,
-Ethan

 

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