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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #825 on: July 09, 2020, 03:21:31 PM »

Satya,

I got an Orange  Essence mango from my tree yesterday. Outstanding mango. I have it grafted onto three trees now :) If space is limited, you might want to go with Honey Kiss. OE is medium vigor but from what I have seen, doesn't stay small.

Keep in mind when you topwork onto an established tree the growth habit if the topworked variety tends to be different (usually more vigorous) than if started from a nursery grafted tree.  For prime examples, look at the towering sizes of the Honey Kiss and Pickering at Walter Zill's.


Would a nursery grafted Orange Essence grow slow and stay small, like Honey Kiss or Pickering? Pickering seems to grow faster than HK in my yard.  Is that unusual?

Yes OE bought at 3g from Zillís and eventually uppotted to 7g has grown almost like a bonsai so far, thick trunk with low branching but who knows may take off and grow vigorously any day soon, but so far it is behaving like it wants to be a compact tree.
I need Carla scions now, i have a branch of Fruit Punch that can be converted. Does anyone know about the origin of the name Carla for this mango? I would have named it Sweet sensation :)
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #826 on: July 09, 2020, 04:33:52 PM »
I'm not a prolific mango taster, I've only tasted probably 20 different cultivars in my life, but I wanted to share some thoughts on a brand new mango I tried that I'd never heard of before.

Deimos, from Richard Campbell's Mangomen Homestead.

I received it in a shipped box a few weeks back, and had no idea what to expect, but I was overpowered by a delicious, sweet, citrusy... extremely BRIGHT flavor -- I don't know how else to describe it.  It was neck-and-neck with Sweet Tart for the best mango in the box.

According to Mangomen, it's a Myatrynat seedling that they're evaluating, and very excited about.  If you get a chance, I'd highly recommend you try it out, if only so I can get your (likely more-experienced) opinions on the matter.

--Jake


Mangomen deliver to California!?

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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #827 on: July 09, 2020, 05:25:15 PM »
I'm not a prolific mango taster, I've only tasted probably 20 different cultivars in my life, but I wanted to share some thoughts on a brand new mango I tried that I'd never heard of before.

Deimos, from Richard Campbell's Mangomen Homestead.

I received it in a shipped box a few weeks back, and had no idea what to expect, but I was overpowered by a delicious, sweet, citrusy... extremely BRIGHT flavor -- I don't know how else to describe it.  It was neck-and-neck with Sweet Tart for the best mango in the box.

According to Mangomen, it's a Myatrynat seedling that they're evaluating, and very excited about.  If you get a chance, I'd highly recommend you try it out, if only so I can get your (likely more-experienced) opinions on the matter.

--Jake


Mangomen deliver to California!?
I didn't find Deimos on their Facebook.  Also, they didn't list Cecilove or Pina Colada for sale this year.  Their season has ended.
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #828 on: July 18, 2020, 01:38:55 AM »
Wanted to share two wonderful Indian variety mangoes i tasted this week. The first was Bombay mango, a gift from forum member FLNative and it was my first time tasting this particular variety. The other one was Sonpari, a highly recommended Indian mango variety by Har.

Bombay had intense fruity aroma, almost akin to Glenn when i first got it and our car was smelling with this aroma as we drove from Delray Beach to our home. The mango though mentioned to have issues with powdery mildew didn't seem to be affected and the fruit as well was spotless, orange blush with yellow background color.



Inside was deep orange. The first one i had, had a uniform color , this one in picture had a deeper orange closer to seed.

This was an exceptional spicy flavor mango, and to me the taste trumped Kesar, Mallika , Suvarnarekha and Alphonso i have had so far. Closer to seed it had started to get too ripe and this tasted like a peach nectar to my wife, to me it tasted a bit medicinal in the over-ripe area. I guess it is peak flavor when not allowed to go over ripe and it can go overripe within a day after its ripe. Texture juicy and soft. No fiber except minimal close to skin. No uneven ripening. Overall extremely good tasting spicy flavor mango in my opinion.

Then next came Sonpari, again my first time tasting. It ripened over many days and turned to pale yellow color, even stayed in fridge for a few days while i returned from my out-of-state work....



And it was very sweet, could not get the spicy flavor until i reached the skin, did i let it go too ripe? but it had no over-ripe fermented flavor, no funky taste, but very sweet filling firm creamy texture. I could not compare the two, i felt Bombay had a better balance of sweetness and spicyness and Sonpari more candy tasting with no subacid flavor.



A video says way more than words, if you like visuals please watch the whole tasting here: https://youtu.be/wNaGkc1q3sc
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #829 on: August 11, 2020, 04:29:04 PM »
Providence mangos that look like freakin' footballs!  Large peach in comparison.  Full review to come.  (These came from my old house.  First year the tree had fruit.  Although allegedly Providence is very susceptible to MBBS, all the fruit was disease-free, super-clean, and some of the largest mangos I've ever seen.)

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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #830 on: August 13, 2020, 12:14:48 PM »
I'm not a prolific mango taster, I've only tasted probably 20 different cultivars in my life, but I wanted to share some thoughts on a brand new mango I tried that I'd never heard of before.

Deimos, from Richard Campbell's Mangomen Homestead.

I received it in a shipped box a few weeks back, and had no idea what to expect, but I was overpowered by a delicious, sweet, citrusy... extremely BRIGHT flavor -- I don't know how else to describe it.  It was neck-and-neck with Sweet Tart for the best mango in the box.

According to Mangomen, it's a Myatrynat seedling that they're evaluating, and very excited about.  If you get a chance, I'd highly recommend you try it out, if only so I can get your (likely more-experienced) opinions on the matter.

--Jake


Mangomen deliver to California!?
Nope, unfortunately.  I was visiting family.
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #831 on: August 25, 2020, 01:27:18 PM »
PROVIDENCE.  Classic Florida Mango flavor.  I tasted "canned fruit cocktail," in line with its Kent parentage. Much larger than Kent (Yes, that is a dinner plate!) with a stronger acidic or tart component.  Up to 3 lbs.  Fiberless except close to the very tough skin.  Resin flavor near the skin, but it wasn't piney. It reminded me of raisins or prunes.  Very juicy, and amply but not overpoweringly sweet.  The fruit was very clean with no sign of MBBS.



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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #832 on: August 25, 2020, 02:10:24 PM »

One of favorite fruit.


PROVIDENCE.  Classic Florida Mango flavor.  I tasted "canned fruit cocktail," in line with its Kent parentage. Much larger than Kent (Yes, that is a dinner plate!) with a stronger acidic or tart component.  Up to 3 lbs.  Fiberless except close to the very tough skin.  Resin flavor near the skin, but it wasn't piney. It reminded me of raisins or prunes.  Very juicy, and amply but not overpoweringly sweet.  The fruit was very clean with no sign of MBBS.




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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #833 on: August 25, 2020, 02:48:18 PM »
Not a real review, but I just wanted to say I'm absolutely LOVING the Kent and Keitt mangoes currently available at my Costco.  Box of 6 costs $6.99.  Just serves to remind me that there's no such thing as a bad mango.

Except for Tommys -- you can burn them all down to the ground.
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #834 on: August 25, 2020, 02:56:46 PM »
So you're thinking I didn't really eat these mangos, Viraldonutz?  Elaborate.  Oh wait, never mind.  You were saying that YOU are not writing a real review, just making a comment.  My old brain froze up there!

Ok, let me tell you my Providence story.  My family--parents, sister, and I--first started eating mangoes way back in the 1970's when shipping from Mexico to L.A. became popular.  Out of Kent, Haden, Keitt, Irwin, and Tommy Atkins we thought that Kent was the best.  That's how I came to have an affinity for that flavor profile.  Fast forward to 2015 when Walter Zill introduced me to Providence in Boynton Beach.  I was favorably impressed by the Kent-like flavor so I planted a tree.  This is not a precocious variety and didn't produce any fruit until this year.  I had to beg the new owners of the house I sold in March for some of these mangos to sample, and they were generous enough to give me eight gigantic fruit--Kent on steroids!
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #835 on: August 25, 2020, 03:15:50 PM »
So you're thinking I didn't really eat these mangos, Viraldonutz?  Elaborate.  Oh wait, never mind.  You were saying that you are not writing a review, just making a comment.  My old brain froze up there!
Haha, I would never impugn your posts, John! You do a wonderful job describing each mango you review -- I feel like I'm right there with you.  Keep it up!
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #836 on: August 26, 2020, 11:04:23 AM »

Glad you were able to Atleast try the fruit sucks to leave behind a tree you saw grow and hadnít fruited and when it finally did you sold your house. My providence is on the same boat Waiting for it to fruit maybe 3 years in ground so far  and nothing.

itís and awesome fruit. It has a distinct note I always thought maybe it was the one people taste in Jakarta.
Which now  makes sense itís similar to Kent as to it seems Kent is the parent of both Jakarta and providence Atleast according to diagram Someone posted the other day. Guess I should try some Kent mangos never have.


So you're thinking I didn't really eat these mangos, Viraldonutz?  Elaborate.  Oh wait, never mind.  You were saying that YOU are not writing a real review, just making a comment.  My old brain froze up there!

Ok, let me tell you my Providence story.  My family--parents, sister, and I--first started eating mangoes way back in the 1970's when shipping from Mexico to L.A. became popular.  Out of Kent, Haden, Keitt, Irwin, and Tommy Atkins we thought that Kent was the best.  That's how I came to have an affinity for that flavor profile.  Fast forward to 2015 when Walter Zill introduced me to Providence in Boynton Beach.  I was favorably impressed by the Kent-like flavor so I planted a tree.  This is not a precocious variety and didn't produce any fruit until this year.  I had to beg the new owners of the house I sold in March for some of these mangos to sample, and they were generous enough to give me eight gigantic fruit--Kent on steroids!

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Re: Mango Reviews - 2020 FINALE
« Reply #837 on: September 03, 2020, 09:37:27 AM »
Probably the last mango tasting of this year...thanks to TonyinCC for offering to try this beautiful mango!...




The tree was compact looking, and there were still some more mangoes hanging on the tree last days of August, so it produced all the way into September. The ones we had were picked at different dates, one 2 weeks back and was in the fridge, and another one picked a week back. The one picked 2 weeks ago with slightly wrinkled skin and deep orange inside, was sweeter with a rich spicy complex flavor. My first bite reminded of Carrie without the medicinal taste some talk about; then, as i ate further, there was deeper rich spicy taste. All in all a good tasting mango. The less ripe one, or may for some be the ideal ripe one, was less sweet with faint coconut undertone and a bit funky taste at first that would disappear as the taste opened up.
There was some fiber close to the skin. The seed was small, so good flesh amount in a small sized mango. Size wise, actually, it was not as small as Honey kiss or PiŮa colada, all the mangoes hanging on the tree were size of an average Carrie mango, and Tony said some were as big and weighed as much as 1lb.

Little Gem i tasted in June did not have this complexity in flavor compared to the one I had end of August, so definitely the flavor peaks at the end of season.

To those who prefer visual/audio tasting reviews, here is one: https://youtu.be/akpOEkOKg8o

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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #838 on: September 03, 2020, 06:22:02 PM »
Mango season just starting in SoCal these two were pick too early sweet but not full flavor as we are use to






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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #839 on: September 25, 2020, 07:44:48 AM »
Sometimes is good to talk about failures as well as success. In one trail the following varieties were trialled with a view to diversifying the Australian market around 40 years ago.
Mango varieties: Akbar, Apple, Banana I, Batawi, Betti Amba, Beverly, Blue, Boribo, Brooks Late, Bullocks Heart, Carabao Harbon, Carabao Lamao, Carabao Los Banos, Carabao Mindanao, Carabao Super Manila, Coconut, Crimson Blush, Davis-Haden, Dot, Early Gold, Edward, Elephant Tusk, Fairchild, Fajri, Fascell, Florigon, Gail, Gary, Gedong, Golden Delight, Goldsworthy, Golek, Graham, Harumanis, Hatcher, Hingurakoka-Willard, Hong Sa, Hood, Indo-Chinese, Isis, Jacquelin, Jakarta, Jewel, Joe Welch, Julie, Kalapady, Keitt, Kent, Keow Savoey, Kopu Reva, Kuru, Laskarshikhan, Lippens, Maha 65, Malgoa Ramasamy, Manalagi, Mapulehu, Momi K, Nam Dok Mai, Nimrod, Ok Rong, Olour, Ono, Pairee, Pairi, Palmer, Parri, Pico, Pirie, Pope, Rapa, Rosa, Ruby, Rupee, Sabre, Santa Alexandrina, Sensation, Southern Blush, Spirit of '76, Springfels, Sufaida, Tommy Atkins, Tong Dum, Van Dyke, Vellai Colomban, Wally, Zardalu and Zillate.were trialled.
Only a few Keitt, Kent, NDM and okrung survive these days and a few others in nurseries here and there. All were deemed inferior or not A grade export mangoes worth pursuing commercially. The KP and erivatives stranglehold remains stronger than ever and hundreds of varieties have been trialled. I wonder if the new Floridians have some that can challenge the status quo here.

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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #840 on: September 25, 2020, 08:02:54 AM »
Sometimes is good to talk about failures as well as success. In one trail the following varieties were trialled with a view to diversifying the Australian market around 40 years ago.
Mango varieties: Akbar, Apple, Banana I, Batawi, Betti Amba, Beverly, Blue, Boribo, Brooks Late, Bullocks Heart, Carabao Harbon, Carabao Lamao, Carabao Los Banos, Carabao Mindanao, Carabao Super Manila, Coconut, Crimson Blush, Davis-Haden, Dot, Early Gold, Edward, Elephant Tusk, Fairchild, Fajri, Fascell, Florigon, Gail, Gary, Gedong, Golden Delight, Goldsworthy, Golek, Graham, Harumanis, Hatcher, Hingurakoka-Willard, Hong Sa, Hood, Indo-Chinese, Isis, Jacquelin, Jakarta, Jewel, Joe Welch, Julie, Kalapady, Keitt, Kent, Keow Savoey, Kopu Reva, Kuru, Laskarshikhan, Lippens, Maha 65, Malgoa Ramasamy, Manalagi, Mapulehu, Momi K, Nam Dok Mai, Nimrod, Ok Rong, Olour, Ono, Pairee, Pairi, Palmer, Parri, Pico, Pirie, Pope, Rapa, Rosa, Ruby, Rupee, Sabre, Santa Alexandrina, Sensation, Southern Blush, Spirit of '76, Springfels, Sufaida, Tommy Atkins, Tong Dum, Van Dyke, Vellai Colomban, Wally, Zardalu and Zillate.were trialled.
Only a few Keitt, Kent, NDM and okrung survive these days and a few others in nurseries here and there. All were deemed inferior or not A grade export mangoes worth pursuing commercially. The KP and erivatives stranglehold remains stronger than ever and hundreds of varieties have been trialled. I wonder if the new Floridians have some that can challenge the status quo here.

Was a requirement for survival to be having commercial potential (ie- long shelf life, shipping, etc.)?
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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #841 on: September 25, 2020, 08:13:53 AM »
Most got knocked out due to a lack of market acceptance pretty early on and yes shelf life and presentation were amongst commercial considerations. Growers have been looking for a messiah mango for decades but it never arrived and riches promised with new types were false profits.

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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #842 on: September 25, 2020, 08:17:11 AM »
Farmers who grow Keitts, palmer, brooks tend to sell locally at low prices and NDM can be sold to southern cities for a reasonable price but its a tiny slice of the market.

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Re: Mango Reviews
« Reply #843 on: September 25, 2020, 08:21:38 AM »
For that matter many of the locally derived types haven't faired very well. Calypso has had a lot of bad reviews so its calapso for it to some extent. Honey Gold never really took off and R2 E2 is big but nowhere near the quality of its parent KP so is a niche variety.

 

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