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About Jaboticaba
« on: January 21, 2012, 04:52:36 PM »
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 05:55:19 PM »
I believe many of us would have loved to have come across these trees offered in a nursery.  Larger, closer to fruit specimens too big to ship.  Would you mind showing some pics?

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 08:09:59 PM »
Viva!
I really like them.  They bring me good childhood memories.  I used to feast of them next door to my house in Northeast Brasil. I grow five (5) caulifloras; one (1) coronata; and one (1) glazioviana here in Fort Myers.  I am also trying to germinate some seeds of myrciaria trunciflora; myrciaria aureana; and some seeds of plinia rivularis.  I have never tried to graft jabuticabas, but this week I spoke with Julian Lara in Miami and he said that his nursery sells grafted jabuticabas.  If you guys want Julian's info, just send me a messsage or email. 

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 02:23:09 AM »
Hi Adam, yes jaboticabas can be grafted. The easiest is to do an approach graft. In Brazil they told me they do cleft graft and also works well. A friend in Israel also told me he started jaboticaba succesfully from cuttings.
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 09:40:19 AM »
Thanks for the pics.  For some time now, we've been trying to identify a few jaboticabas that members have here.  They fruit on the end of the branches instead of cauliferous.  Maybe Stressbaby and Gerry will post some pics for us???

Ohio is always ready to bring poor stragglers out from the cold.  Adam...what brings you to Ohio often?

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 02:52:11 PM »
Adam,

Thanks for the info on Jaboticaba, now its time to try to find seeds... I am currently growing two Myrciaria, both Myrciaria cauliflora, one Sabara and the other one unnamed. Perhaps I will add the hybrid Myrciaria, I know fruitlovers is selling seeds of it.
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 02:55:57 PM »
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« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 01:39:10 PM by Anikulapo »

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 09:24:26 PM »
I've always wondered and wanted to try approach grafting jaboticaba onto my in-ground guava (my wife will probably kill me for messing with this guava tree).  If successful, wouldn't jaboticaba benefit from the guava's vigorous growth?  Has anyone ever tried something like this?  After all, they're in the same family. 
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 10:05:16 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 13, 2012, 06:06:06 PM by Adam Shafran »

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 10:35:29 PM »
I've always wondered and wanted to try approach grafting jaboticaba onto my in-ground guava (my wife will probably kill me for messing with this guava tree).  If successful, wouldn't jaboticaba benefit from the guava's vigorous growth?  Has anyone ever tried something like this?  After all, they're in the same family.

Never tried it but highly unlikely it would work. Here's how it goes for grafting...rule of thumb:
Same species always works (if graft is done right).
Same genus, different species sometimes works.
Same family but different genus very rarely works.
So jaboticaba and guava are same family but different genus, last category: almost never works.
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 01:41:34 AM »
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 10:53:39 AM »

Hi Adam,

In Canarias, AG researchers managed to graft Mamey (Pouteria sapota) onto Lucuma (Pouteria obovata),
but they COULD NOT graft onto Canistel (Pouteria campechiana), according to Felipe.

Now, regarding Annonas, there are several combinations that work but MANY that do not. For
instance, a friend o mine managed to graft Rollinia/Annona mucosa onto cherimoya but the scions would not grow.

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 11:51:27 AM »
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 12:15:03 PM »
I figured it's a long shot, especially with my success rate  :'(, but quite curious as to what genus within the same family other members attempted.
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 04:06:13 PM »
This is the Pantin mamey grafted on lucuma. I was even flowering. I don't know if canistel and mamey are compatible, but at least it didn't work for the guys in Tenerife... but I can tell you, those guys know their business  ;)





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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 06:12:20 PM »
I wonder if different varieties of canistel and mamey might be more graft compatible than other mamey/canistel combos.

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 12:04:08 PM »
This is the Pantin mamey grafted on lucuma. I was even flowering. I don't know if canistel and mamey are compatible, but at least it didn't work for the guys in Tenerife... but I can tell you, those guys know their business  ;)




Is that a pod of Inga cinnamomea in the gentleman's hand?

The pod looks like it could be used as a billy-club for small animals that try to raid the tree of fruit! :'( :o ;D

Thanks!

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2012, 04:40:30 PM »
Adam, this inga is not identified.  Seeds came from the Domincan Republic...








« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 04:42:20 PM by Felipe »

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2012, 04:47:38 PM »
Adam, this inga is not identified.  Seeds came from the Domincan Republic...



I have the same inga. I believe it is Inga spectabilis, guama machete.
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2012, 05:43:41 PM »
Adam, this inga is not identified.  Seeds came from the Domincan Republic...




I have the same inga. I believe it is Inga spectabilis, guama machete.
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Here's a photo of what i think is Inga spectablilis:

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 08:09:12 PM »
Adam, this inga is not identified.  Seeds came from the Domincan Republic...








I agree with Oscar, Spectabiliis...but Oscar looks like he cut his fruit about a month early!

Am i right aboot that at least? eh?

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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 09:32:52 PM »


I agree with Oscar, Spectabiliis...but Oscar looks like he cut his fruit about a month early!

Am i right aboot that at least? eh?
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Sorry, low batting average. :-X Those pods were perfetctly ripe-- ate them they were delicious. If you wait until pods starts turning yellow all the seeds inside sprout and form very long roots and very unpleasant to eat, So you have to pick them while still green but well filled out.
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2012, 12:15:37 AM »
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Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2012, 01:10:04 AM »


I agree with Oscar, Spectabiliis...but Oscar looks like he cut his fruit about a month early!

Am i right aboot that at least? eh?

Sorry, low batting average. :-X Those pods were perfetctly ripe-- ate them they were delicious. If you wait until pods starts turning yellow all the seeds inside sprout and form very long roots and very unpleasant to eat, So you have to pick them while still green but well filled out.
Oscar

U taught me a lesson, so don't say sorry about low batting avg...it will go up in future...now I'm getting my facts straight...at least I got the genus right!  :)

I know now to go ahead and snatch these when I see them full sized!!

Thanks!
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Good attitude! Learning can be fun and cool.  8)  All the ingas are like that. If you pick them totally ripe all the seeds inside are rooting. No germination inhibitors in this fruit, like in most fruits.
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