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Went on a planting spree!
« on: September 04, 2013, 02:59:37 PM »
I spent the last 4 days planting up the yard. Been a lot of work digging holes, thankfully the soil is sugar sand  ;D. I left out about 15 or so other plants I planted, I forgot to take pics lol.

Pina Colada Mango (3 gal from Trees and More)


Cogshall Mango (3 gal from Trees and More)


Dream hybrid cherimoya/atemoya?


Pindo Palm (Butia capitata)


Ross Sapote


'Silas Woods' Sapodilla


'Parl 246' Opuntia ficus-indica


'Jerenimo M.V.' Opuntia sp.


'Torrance PCH #1' Opuntia sp.


Marula


hybrid Dovyalis, Tropical Apricot


Eugenia neonitida, seedling planted in ground with waterboxx




'Big lifeberry' Lycium barbarum , have a second one planted nearby


Allspice


Guava 'Don's Giant'


Okrung seedling Mango


'Choquette' avocado, been in ground for 3 months


'Lemon Zest' Mango (7 Gal from Trees and More)


'Keitt' Mango (I believe it is, came with the property).








'Glenn' Mango (In ground 3 months)


Annona tometosa


Curry Leaf


Overview shots


'Coconut Cream' Mango (in the background to the left of the shade cloth)


Lisa atemoya in the background
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Re: Went on a planting spree!
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2013, 03:14:11 PM »
Why the Marula and lycium barbarum?  The Marula gets kind of big, and seems to be more interesting than good.

Good on you to have spices!  Any nuts planned?

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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2013, 03:26:43 PM »
Nice to see nullzero! Are those all Florida mango types? I have read somewhere there are mango varieties developed in California better suited for California climate. But you may live in a warmer part of California.

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Re: Went on a planting spree!
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2013, 03:42:52 PM »
I believe this is his other property in Florida? Coconuts don't grow that healthy out here in Socal

Very nice start, Null.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2013, 04:18:52 PM »
Yeah this is the Florida property. Shah8, I wanted to get something exotic with dual use, the Marula also has an edible seed. As for its size, I am going to prune it aggressively to get it bushier. As for the Lycium barbarum, I like the taste of the fresh fruit. This selection is suppose to have larger fruit (which is a big plus), also the leaves are edible and quite tasty.

Macadamia and other nuts are going to be planted in the fall. Also have about 3 large mature oak trees and a few smaller oak trees, going to remove 3-4 of them and keep the larger ones. So I am going to start using acorns in the future since they are raining down all over the yard (after leeching out tannin). Just planning things out atm. I also planted Salak palms close to the edge of the property, going to use as a hedge. Have about 10 coconut palm trees on the property, about 4 of them are producing heavily. One has 12 large coconuts on it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2013, 04:41:41 PM »
Damn Steven,

The property looks awesome! You have a great start to a great collection of fruit trees.  I definitely can't wait to come out to visit and see your place in person  ;D

Everything looks great, talk to you soon!

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Re: Went on a planting spree!
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 06:45:26 PM »
Nullzy,

the plantings and property look excellent!  Thanks for sharing all the pics!!

I'm eager to see an update in the near future...all your plants should grow nicely if we keep getting all this rain and warm weather!


(just curious, does your lawn have sprinklers that will hit these plants?)

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2013, 07:29:14 PM »
Steven   
 Looks like you had a good plant collecting trip .Some unusual plants I like the Dovyalis Tropical Apricot. The yard looks nice and so does the planting. Welcome to florida


                                                           
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 12:05:43 AM »
Wow nice new plantings thanks for sharing pic's always nice to see new trees going in the ground. What's your ground like Ph wise? just wondering out here in Ca. 8)

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2013, 12:52:43 AM »
Wow nice new plantings thanks for sharing pic's always nice to see new trees going in the ground. What's your ground like Ph wise? just wondering out here in Ca. 8)


Soil is a moderately/fast draining mostly sand with some loam. I am pretty sure it is slightly/strong acidic. What I was told is just mulch generously and everything will pretty much grow.

From the description its closest to what is called a "Hobe Series" soil





« Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 01:03:12 AM by nullzero »
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2013, 12:57:57 AM »
nullzero, you've done it again.

The first time was with the prickly pear that I got from you. I had been searching for years for it.

Now, you introduce the 'Pindo Palm.' I've been looking for a quality fruit producing palm, that will bear in S. Florida, for years. I've always wished that Date Palms would bear fruit here, just as they do in the Canary Islands. According to UF, the Pindo Palm will bear fruit in all of Florida. Since they grow slowly, I'd rather buy a mature one that's already producing fruit, I just wonder how much money that is going to be, if I can find it. If you can let me know where you got it (and if they have others that are older), I'd really appreciate it. I've called you in the past the 'Indiana Jones' of Opuntias, now I think I'll call you the 'Indiana Jones' of quality fruit producing rare plants, thanks many for turning the spotlight on this palm.

This link shows that the Pindo Palm grows (and bears fruit?) in all of Florida.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/LyraEDISServlet?command=getImageDetail&image_soid=FIGURE 2 ST105&document_soid=ST105&document_version=57485
 
Very nice pictures and fruit tree varieties. I agree with you, that sure looks like a 'Keitt' mango tree/fruit. You're very lucky that it came with the property.

Amazing selection of quality fruit bearing plants, thanks for posting.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2013, 01:29:10 AM »
WHERE ARE THE JAKFRUIT TREES AT?!?

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2013, 06:58:15 AM »
cool yard.

isn't marula dioecious?

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM »
Great job Null!! Very nice selection of fruit trees...you will have a very nice orchard in the near future! When are you planning on moving to Florida full time?

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2013, 08:42:01 AM »
You can never plant too much...I think!!!!
I plants in spurts too because I spend time thinking where the heck do I plant this tree to do the maximum good. Even so I have moved and replanted about 4 fruit trees this year meaning the first place I planted them was changed...moved them to a new location.

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2013, 10:17:19 AM »
cool yard.

isn't marula dioecious?

Yeah marula is usually dioecious, though I hear its rarer but there are trees with both sexes of flowers. I plan to graft a female or male branch on the tree eventually. I have a second beautiful marula tree which I intend to plant on another side. I am going to try to manage the trees to 15ft or so with aggressive pruning.
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2013, 10:56:46 AM »
Did you get the Dream cherimoya from Wayne Clifton in Bradenton?
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2013, 11:03:28 AM »
Nice collection.  Lots of familiar stuff with an eclectic touch.  Happy growing!
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2013, 11:22:34 AM »
This link shows that the Pindo Palm grows (and bears fruit?) in all of Florida.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/LyraEDISServlet?command=getImageDetail&image_soid=FIGURE 2 ST105&document_soid=ST105&document_version=57485


I was in Orlando about 17 or so years ago and in the court yard of a building I was visiting, was a planter with what I thought was an absolutely gorgeous palm (and I am not that much of a fan of palms generally). I looked it up at determined it to be a Jelly Palm a/k/a Pindo Palm and took some fruit and tasted it.  Flavor was pretty good but flesh was scant.  However, at that time I was in a mode of collecting anything and everything.  I took seed home and eventually planted it out in the yard. I have one tree.  Its fairly good size now after all these years.  It grows nicely, looks good but has never bloomed.  :(
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2013, 11:51:19 AM »
Pindos grow like molasses in the spring.  Slow growing at least to start.  Super drought and cold tolerant, beautiful.  I find it hard to believe you have a hard time sourcing them in So Fla.  My mother has one one in central Fla., beautiful tree, a little thorny but still nice.  I have couple of seedlings that were growing in the arms, mine are potted and still barely a foot and a half tall at about 2 years (ok, I may have some neglect in there).  They will get taller if they are shaded.
I think that they would be the perfect palm if they grew faster.

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2013, 12:36:56 PM »
Nice  :)

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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2013, 02:25:43 PM »
Did you get the Dream cherimoya from Wayne Clifton in Bradenton?

Had a tree saved for me a few months from Adam (I am not sure if he has extra trees atm).

Nice collection.  Lots of familiar stuff with an eclectic touch.  Happy growing!

Thanks Harry, yeah I am going for a diverse collection of tasty fruits that bear during long periods of the year. I have a few that I did not list that are in the ground now. Such as Lucuma, Jujubes, Olives, Pomegranate, Cereus sp., Aframomum sp., Parkia biglobosa, Salak palms, Maihuenia poeppigii , and some others. I have not even gotten around to the dragon fruit vines yet.

On the mango front I think I am set, I would not mind more... but in reality I have to many.

You can never plant too much...I think!!!!
I plants in spurts too because I spend time thinking where the heck do I plant this tree to do the maximum good. Even so I have moved and replanted about 4 fruit trees this year meaning the first place I planted them was changed...moved them to a new location.

I agree the problem is the space  :'(. Luckily I got a little over a half an acre to work with. I am quickly seeing it get filled in, though the 7 oak trees tend to take a lot of real estate. I am going to work to remove 4 of them in the next year or so. Will leave 3 large ones in place.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2013, 09:31:15 AM »
Wow, you've been a busy man, nice selection of trees!

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2013, 05:16:30 PM »
Nullzie - so happy you got things going - and yeah, you are lucky with the sandy
soil from what I've heard about Florida - Isn't there that calciferous crusty stuff that
some people have to deal with?

Bueno, amigo, great start....and do know that all the Californians will be begging for a
visit in some unplanned future!!!!!!!!



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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2013, 09:07:15 PM »
Looks great !
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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2013, 08:40:33 AM »
Great work Null...

You have a nice space, and I'm sure those plants are going to fill it out nicely..:) Nice collection!
Has the Goji - Lifeberry flowered/fruited for you yet?

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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2013, 12:49:46 PM »
Great work Null...

You have a nice space, and I'm sure those plants are going to fill it out nicely..:) Nice collection!
Has the Goji - Lifeberry flowered/fruited for you yet?

Goji has not flowered and fruited yet. I believe its going to next season most likely (both were recently bought and were not the largest plants). The leaves have a nice size to them compared to other goji berries I have seen.
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« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2013, 03:00:24 PM »
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The leaves have a nice size to them compared to other goji berries I have seen.

I noticed that too.
I purchased a Goji -Big lifeberry, and mine is just starting to flower. No fruit yet, but I'm hoping it will fruit soon.. :) I was just hoping someone else had had better luck.

This large one has large delicate leaves, and has a more sprawling/long lanky limb growth pattern. I have it in a tomato cage to help support the long branches. It seems to like it. This one definitely needs to be staked.

The Goji plants, I grew from dried organic berries from the Grocery store, have a stronger structure, a more upright growth with the leaves that are smaller, thicker, and darker green. They look more like miniature olive tree leaves. I just started those this year, so no flowers on them yet. Maybe next summer.. :)

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Re: Went on a planting spree!
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2013, 02:10:42 AM »
did the tag on your dream cherimoya say "dream, hybrid cherimoya"?

the rootstock was a given to me as a hybrid cherimoya...so my label might have been confusing.


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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 02:42:17 AM »
did the tag on your dream cherimoya say "dream, hybrid cherimoya"?

the rootstock was a given to me as a hybrid cherimoya...so my label might have been confusing.

Said hybrid on it. Btw, I forgot to see if you had any good grafted loquats  ;D. Maybe next time.
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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2013, 08:50:03 AM »
Well done NZ!  I look fwd to visiting you sometime...a much shorter flight this time!

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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2013, 01:09:17 PM »
Well done NZ!  I look fwd to visiting you sometime...a much shorter flight this time!

Thanks, look forward to having you over sometime. In a few years hopefully the fruit should start rolling in :).
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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2013, 11:14:47 PM »
Nullzy

Great collection! You can't go wrong with more mangos in South Florida.

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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2013, 06:06:43 AM »
Didn't you just move to Florida? Impressive amount of trees planted for such a short time. Jelly palm (never heard it called pindo palm) , Butia capitata, is very widely adapted. Seen it growing and fruiting in Southern California, Florida, and i have a tree here that fruits well here. Yes the amount of pulp is scant, but some of them have a great sweet/sour candy-like taste. A very pretty palm with unusual colored foliage, but slow growing palm.
I'm about to plant some marulas myself (sourced from Carraig). I remember him stating that the nut is by far the tastiest part, but i've yet to taste the nut.
What is Annona tometosa? Should it be tomentosa? Either way never heard of it before.
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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2013, 09:59:04 AM »
Didn't you just move to Florida? Impressive amount of trees planted for such a short time. Jelly palm (never heard it called pindo palm) , Butia capitata, is very widely adapted. Seen it growing and fruiting in Southern California, Florida, and i have a tree here that fruits well here. Yes the amount of pulp is scant, but some of them have a great sweet/sour candy-like taste. A very pretty palm with unusual colored foliage, but slow growing palm.
I'm about to plant some marulas myself (sourced from Carraig). I remember him stating that the nut is by far the tastiest part, but i've yet to taste the nut.
What is Annona tometosa? Should it be tomentosa? Either way never heard of it before.

Oscar,

The tomentosa is a seedling I got labeled as dioica.  So I'd probably stick with the name dioica. i think Helton is throwing us off a bit...I think this is the name he gives to dioica.

btw...marula is very easy to grow.   I have a pair of trees that are in 10 gal pots....they rooted into the ground, forming large tap roots.  When I finally moved my trees, the tap roots cracked off in the ground....I was worried the tree would be stressed because its root system was compromised...but the trees didn't skip a beat...they didn't really wilt much...and I kept them in full sun (watering daily as usual). The most surprising thing was the fact that the tap roots, which broke off into the ground, started to grow leaves!  Now I have new marula plants!  So I learned Marula is easy to propagate from root cuttings.  One way to propagate your tree, is to plant a potted specimen on top of another pot of soil...when the tap root makes it's way into the pot underneath your tree, cut the root...and you should have a another rooted  marula in no time.

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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2013, 01:02:08 PM »
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What is Annona tometosa? Should it be tomentosa?
I meant tomentosa, sp. error. Adam is saying its probably dioica now  :o. Anyway its a beautiful tree/shrub foliage wise so far.

With the Marula, I was intending to grow it mainly for its nuts. The fruit was going to be secondary addition. I am hoping I have a male and female. I currently have one more seedling I need to plant in the ground.

The marula I have in the ground got mowed over before. It bounced back and came up from the tap root. Now has 2 primary vertical stems. Now I just need a macadamia tree, and a few others. I think I am done for adding mangoes in atm (until I find and get a pickering)   ;).
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« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2013, 03:13:06 PM »
nullzy

I have some really nice 15 gal pickerings and cogshalls if you're interested.

hope to see you again in FL soon!

[q]What is Annona tometosa? Should it be tomentosa?[/q] I meant tomentosa, sp. error. Adam is saying its probably dioica now  :o. Anyway its a beautiful tree/shrub foliage wise so far.

With the Marula, I was intending to grow it mainly for its nuts. The fruit was going to be secondary addition. I am hoping I have a male and female. I currently have one more seedling I need to plant in the ground.

The marula I have in the ground got mowed over before. It bounced back and came up from the tap root. Now has 2 primary vertical stems. Now I just need a macadamia tree, and a few others. I think I am done for adding mangoes in atm (until I find I get a pickering)   ;).

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Re: Went on a planting spree!
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2013, 06:08:17 PM »
Adam, thanks for info on starting marula from root cuttings. That's good to know.
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