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Re: Greenhouse, RootMaker pots for tropicals and fruit "porn"
« Reply #200 on: March 31, 2019, 02:23:57 PM »
Mark, when would be a good time to add more rootbuilder II sections to 5 are in use, or should I wait for it to grow substantially before adding more sections. This holiday has done nothing but to flower since I took it out of the ground and planted in a rootbuilder pot last November. I see some baby avocados as well. It was bought in a 3 gallon pot a month earlier.



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« Reply #201 on: April 01, 2019, 08:16:16 AM »
Being that it doesn't have much of a canopy suggests it probably doesn't have much of a root system.   You could add 2 or more panels now or wait until next year.  Here's a few pot sizes based on # of panels:

4 panels = 15 gal.
5 = 20
6 = 30
8 = 55
10 = 100

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« Reply #202 on: April 01, 2019, 12:43:58 PM »
Very handy panel to pot sizes, I read it somewhere in the back but couldnít find it. What is the number of panels are using for your biggest tree in the greenhouse, and how tall and old is the tree? So I could be prepared for the future. Thanks.

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« Reply #203 on: April 08, 2019, 11:37:48 AM »
Ten panels on this Reed is the biggest.  Time to get out the loppers and ladder.  Grafted it in 2012. Froze back to a stub last year.  Has 3 trunks now.



It's about time! I think I've had this Red Spanish about 2-3 years. Looks bad coming out of this winter's cold. All my pineapples do but they'll green up and hopefully fruit come by summer.



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« Reply #204 on: May 03, 2019, 10:27:09 AM »
Grafted last year to avocado shoots growing from a tree that froze back.  Lamb Hass, Sharwil, and Pinkerton.  Yes, it is holding a few fruits.  Tree is a good 7' X 7' with branches as thick as a broom stick.





GEM grafted last fall. All 4 grafts took.  Sure is a slow grower.   Volunteer tomato plant is sprawling all over the greenhouse floor.  It's so thick I can't reach many of them.



Brad, hard to see but the side veneer graft, Pinkerton, on the left is doing well.  Cleft on the right.  Grafted to a Bacon seedling Jan. 28.



Ardith, grafted last fall to a frozen back Gwen shoot that pushed is a good 7' tall.



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« Reply #205 on: May 03, 2019, 10:44:32 AM »
Looks like your tree's with your grafting skill's are coming back Mark, nice job!! 8)

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« Reply #206 on: May 03, 2019, 10:45:25 AM »
Awesome man.  I tried a side vaneer on an in ground seed.  We'll see how it goes. 

I like the volunteers there.  Looks like a sunflower.  We have sunflower, tomato and watermelon popping up everywhere. 

Mark you should consider growing a banana plant in there.  They are really easy to grow and they would do awesome in a hot house protected from wind.  There are plenty of dwarf varieties out there that would easily fit in there. 
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« Reply #207 on: May 03, 2019, 11:12:45 AM »
Awesome man.  I tried a side vaneer on an in ground seed.  We'll see how it goes. 

I like the volunteers there.  Looks like a sunflower.  We have sunflower, tomato and watermelon popping up everywhere. 

Mark you should consider growing a banana plant in there.  They are really easy to grow and they would do awesome in a hot house protected from wind.  There are plenty of dwarf varieties out there that would easily fit in there.

Morning Brad.  I have all kinds of volunteers beside the tomato plant - huge dill volunteers, legumes that pop up in the beds, sunflowers from years ago, weeds.....

I have 2 varieties of bananas.  Want to get a Blue Java.  With an 18' ceiling, not worried too much about dwarfs.  My Reed is getting so big I'm a bit worried.  I mean huge.  Lack of pollinators this year is really disgusting.  Don't know why either.

Also have a really cute, tiny dwarf pineapple that's fruiting.  Damn thing took the 18F and made it!  White Jade and Sugarloaf still look like crap.  Pineapples do not like temps below 45F and they're still showing it.

BTW, Frankie's Red is going on 6'.  Sugar is going nuts, etc.

Good luck with the side veneer.  Never had one fail, even on cherimoya.

Have a good one......
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« Reply #208 on: May 03, 2019, 11:20:29 AM »
Looks like your tree's with your grafting skill's are coming back Mark, nice job!! 8)

Thanks Scott. Been a trip coming back from this disaster Jan. 2018.  I did 83 grafts last year, most on citrus.



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« Reply #209 on: May 03, 2019, 11:26:05 AM »
I'll pile on.  Everything looks great there Mark.  I'll post an update to my side-yard avocado project soon with updated pics.  The five avocados along the fence line seem to be doing well.  1 of 3 of my front-yard, now Surrounded, tree should make it.

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« Reply #210 on: May 03, 2019, 11:28:03 AM »
I'll pile on.  Everything looks great there Mark.  I'll post an update to my side-yard avocado project soon with updated pics.  The five avocados along the fence line seem to be doing well.  1 of 3 of my front-yard, now Surrounded, tree should make it.

Like to see the mischief you're up to.  :D

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« Reply #211 on: May 03, 2019, 11:34:59 AM »
I have 2 varieties of bananas.  Want to get a Blue Java.

Before you order that 'blue java' you may want to read http://www.bananas.org/f2/musa-ice-cream-blue-java-grow-48530.html, especially the tasting notes a bit down the thread.
Also, unless you order from someone you really trust your chances of getting an actual Blue Java are slim, from what I'm reading...
(I don't know anything about bananas, I'm just starting to explore and order...)

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« Reply #212 on: May 03, 2019, 11:42:04 AM »
Mark, I have the real blue java and the imposter tall namwah plants.  Will send you one later.  The tall namwah agristart imposter is fruiting.  The real blue java is only 3 or 4 ft tall.  I just put it out on the hillside.  It should blow up and make some kids this summer.
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« Reply #213 on: May 04, 2019, 07:14:02 AM »
Mark, I have the real blue java and the imposter tall namwah plants.  Will send you one later.  The tall namwah agristart imposter is fruiting.  The real blue java is only 3 or 4 ft tall.  I just put it out on the hillside.  It should blow up and make some kids this summer.

Thanks for the kind offer!

Tve, thanks for the heads up.  I'm aware that that namwah is passed off as Blue Java.  Been a lot of messages on that one.

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« Reply #214 on: May 04, 2019, 08:26:58 AM »
Greenhouse is a work in progress - upgraded my greenhouse with replacement of Dyna-Glas Palram SolarSoft85 which was way too shady for a north facing roof, replaced north roof and roof vent with clear Lexan and installed a downward pointing HAF to get the heat collecting at the 18' peak back down to the ground.




Great thread and a lot to learn from it.The copper paint for root prunning pots was a new one for me.I quoted the greenhouse to ask what are those 2 square  things on the exterior wall?

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« Reply #215 on: May 04, 2019, 12:07:51 PM »
Hi Mark do you grow any Annonas at all in the Green House, just wondering if the can take the cold in your area, inside the G. House.
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« Reply #216 on: May 05, 2019, 10:05:34 AM »
Hi Mark do you grow any Annonas at all in the Green House, just wondering if the can take the cold in your area, inside the G. House.
Carlos

I have a 2018 grafted cherimoya cocktail tree of Behl, Pierce, Campas and Sabor.  Giant Atis sugar apple and others.  They do fine.

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« Reply #217 on: May 16, 2019, 07:56:08 AM »
Well...I've had mounds of fire ants but nothing like this.  Obviously I have a leak at a manifold that services my greenhouse and turf irrigation system.  I noticed fire ants ON TOP of the plastic granite facade and thought....hmmmm, that's weird.  It was packed by so much ant engineered dirt, eggs, larvae, winged bastards from hell I struggled to get the top off. There's enough of them bastards to kill a horse!

This repair is NOT going to be fun.  :-\





Knocked down to stir them up and baited with Amdro.



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« Reply #218 on: May 16, 2019, 11:19:32 AM »
That's incredible.  How long did it take for them to build up that mound?  On the plus side, they're shading your PVC and manifold (I just had to replace mine).  Also, that "red-brown" dirt looks fine as coffee grinds.  How can you put it to use?!?

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« Reply #219 on: May 17, 2019, 08:13:17 AM »
That's incredible.  How long did it take for them to build up that mound?  On the plus side, they're shading your PVC and manifold (I just had to replace mine).  Also, that "red-brown" dirt looks fine as coffee grinds.  How can you put it to use?!?

Being that it was covered by the granite plastic facade I have no clue how long they've been building that nest.  I hope my permethrin drench got them yesterday.  The dirt is clay loam.  It's a bitch to work - hard as concrete when dry, gooey slop when wet but stuff in it grows like crazy.

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« Reply #220 on: May 17, 2019, 05:21:24 PM »
Last summer I had a fire ant problem.
I mixed borax with peanut butter and put the mixture on a credit card.
I set it by the mound.

I don't see any fire ant so far.

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« Reply #221 on: May 18, 2019, 07:52:04 AM »
Last summer I had a fire ant problem.
I mixed borax with peanut butter and put the mixture on a credit card.
I set it by the mound.

I don't see any fire ant so far.

Borax or boric acid is a stomach poison.  Good call.

I hit them with permethrin, my favorite all around pesticide, Tenguard brand.  Mound is dead.  There were thousands of larvae and thank gawd no leak!

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« Reply #222 on: June 06, 2019, 10:56:41 AM »
4 GEM grafts that pushed last year are finally taking off.
 


A cocktail mango tree froze back to a stub last year but later put out shoots so I grafted Pineapple Pleasure, Juicy Peach and Orange Sherbet on it. Will leave the 3 PP hanging alone to ripen. I think the great, new canopy flush will be enough to support the fruit. Even though it has a high N Osmocote on it I hit it with a Peters 20-3-19 high iron food.  Still not sure why so many around here, pros and amateurs alike, push high K foods at the expense of N.



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« Reply #223 on: June 06, 2019, 11:34:50 AM »
Nice updates Mark. Pineapple Pleasure is an excellent fruit.

Iíve been telling people that flowering plants/fruit trees need Nitrogen for a long time but you have to be very careful about how much Nitrogen you add. For fruit trees, they need very low levels of Nitrogen compared to Potassium for fruit development. The K is used by the plant to grow the fruit and directly adds to the total soluble solids.

The Nitrogen will help to get larger blooms and help with fruit retention but too much Nitrogen will throw the tree off balance, especially during early flowering. Too much Nitrogen prior to flowering will increase leaf Nitrogen levels and above a specific threshold, it can actually inhibit flowering and promote vegetative growth.

Each type of plant has its own specific Nitrogen threshold. Lychees in particular are especially sensitive to this and even after fruit set, too much Nitrogen combined with heavy rains can cause entire loss of crop at the expense of vegetative growth.

I forget what the threshold leaf Nitrogen levels are for Mangos but Iím sure I posted it somewhere on the form before.

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« Reply #224 on: June 06, 2019, 04:48:01 PM »
Ive just read that the red colored leaves are because of too much N and to little P.Something about the sugars in the leaf that causes this.

 

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