Tropical Fruit Forum - International Tropical Fruit Growers



Author Topic: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.  (Read 5197 times)

Granja Galatas

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
    • Guatemala c.a., San Raimundo
    • View Profile
Very good morning, dear friends growers, my name is Julio Mejia and I live in the central part of Guatemala, I am currently looking seeds black sapote (Diospyros digyna) ignored the seed production season, but will wait, in return I can send fresh seeds green sapote (Pouteria viridis) this year from last, round fruit, sweet and doughy, or for next year white sapote seeds (Casimiroa edulis) the variety is a cultivar that I have selected for my family for years, large fruit 4 to 6 inches, very sweet flesh and 2-4 seeds, much aroma, Thanks for everything and we are in contact.

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7410
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 05:29:22 PM »
GG I'll have a look in the markets at lunch time (5 hrs from now) and maybe pick up a fruit.The season is ending but there should be 6 ot 7 varieties still there and the last fruit of the season maybe in 2 weeks. If I can get giant mossman,flying saucer or maher varieties I will let you know as these are very large impressive black sapotes.

Felipe

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1319
    • Canary Islands, Spain - 12b
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 06:23:40 PM »
Hola Julio!

Do you have some pictures of your green zapote? Sorry I don't have black zapote seeds right now, maybe in April ;)

NylsX

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 53
  • Green Roof Partisan
    • MEXICO, Acapulco , Guerrero. Zone 14.
    • View Profile
    • NylsX no Sekai
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 10:02:52 PM »
Hello, I'm not sure whether i can find black zapote fruits since the last of the year mini season is close to finish, last i saw them in the market were big and goodlooking but that was three weeks ago, anyway I'll try to check again just in case, I'm interested on your pouteria viride seeds, i know they are big so one or two seeds will work for me of course if you still have some left. Greets from the close west.

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7410
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 03:30:59 AM »



I found one of the last flying saucer black sapotes of the season at lunch time and I wonder if it has any seeds. Not a 3kg + monster but still bigger than average.

Soren

  • Zone 12, Uganda
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1056
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 04:21:09 AM »



I found one of the last flying saucer black sapotes of the season at lunch time and I wonder if it has any seeds. Not a 3kg + monster but still bigger than average.


Thats big Mike!
Søren
Kampala, Uganda

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7410
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 05:04:33 AM »
Soren it is chicken feed compared to the whopping mossmans and flying saucers last year. Black sapotes that are too big are hard to eat and anything over 3kg gets wasted.

luc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2446
    • Mexico , Puerto Vallarta , Jalisco . 20 degr. North
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 06:32:57 PM »
Hola Julio ,

Unas semanas mas para que maduran los mios ( en Mexico )
Luc Vleeracker
Puerto Vallarta
Mexico , Pacific coast.
20 degrees north

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7410
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2013, 04:57:01 AM »
GG, bad news, the 3 big ripe black sapotes I acquired with a view to sharing the seeds turned out to be seedless.The technical term is total B.S.


Here is a pic from last season showing what they look like inside.It is counter-intuitive that the big ones are so often seedless.

NylsX

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 53
  • Green Roof Partisan
    • MEXICO, Acapulco , Guerrero. Zone 14.
    • View Profile
    • NylsX no Sekai
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2013, 06:04:15 AM »
Seedless black zapotes. That's something i still have yet to find here in black zapote land :) no named cultivars are known but you can find all sizes, i prefer the regular sized ones to be better, not many seeds, sweeter and not earthy taste, also i remember ones that are almost black  skinned when ripen to be specially good.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 06:06:34 AM by NylsX »

luc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2446
    • Mexico , Puerto Vallarta , Jalisco . 20 degr. North
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 11:07:34 AM »
Seedless black zapotes. That's something i still have yet to find here in black zapote land :) no named cultivars are known but you can find all sizes, i prefer the regular sized ones to be better, not many seeds, sweeter and not earthy taste, also i remember ones that are almost black  skinned when ripen to be specially good.

I agree , bigger is not always better , I am very happy with those I grow . When seeing the size of those Mike posted I was tempted to ask for seeds but decided against it , more than 75 % of my fruit goes to waste , have 3 producing trees . Restaurants don't buy them , too messy....and I don't think freezing when ripe for later use is an option ??
Santos , do you have any suggestion , maybe there are recipes in Guerrero that I am not aware of ...
Luc Vleeracker
Puerto Vallarta
Mexico , Pacific coast.
20 degrees north

NylsX

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 53
  • Green Roof Partisan
    • MEXICO, Acapulco , Guerrero. Zone 14.
    • View Profile
    • NylsX no Sekai
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 11:41:36 AM »
The success of Black Zapote here is in the restaurants/hotels/aguasfrescas industry, when in season you can find in most natural/vegans restaurants black zapote drinks,smoothies,shakes. Mixed with orange or mandarine even lemon, in the streets black zapote aguafresca is easy to find. I was surprised when i found Black Zapotes in Superama ( a Walmart's store with gourmet supplies ) kinda expensive but there it was heh. People with big trees on the outskirts use the leaves too... not sure for what :)

Pd: I know it's used in alcoholic drinks too, never tasted it that way since i don't like alcohol.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2013, 11:48:31 AM by NylsX »

Sven

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 186
    • USA, Sounthern California, Jamul, 9B 3000 ft.
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 12:33:44 PM »
Luc,

I've heard of people mixing them half and half with whipped cream and freezing to make a sort of ice cream.  It’s supposed to be good although I’ve never tried it.    If CRFG ever put out a cook book it might be in there. 

Just found a recipe here: http://rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/BlackSapote/R_BSapoteMousse1-84.htm

Sven
« Last Edit: October 30, 2013, 12:35:51 PM by Sven »

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7410
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 03:49:22 PM »
Luc the big 2 or 3 varieties are of excellent taste and quality but it is a fruit that it is hard to consume many lbs of in one sitting. Standard sized fruit on named varieties or even minis (eg goose egg) are probably better options for the casual consumer not running a smoothie chain.

Granja Galatas

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
    • Guatemala c.a., San Raimundo
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 05:06:03 PM »
Hola Julio!

Do you have some pictures of your green zapote? Sorry I don't have black zapote seeds right now, maybe in April ;)


yes, I have only now 1, take for an example of how they have "meat".
next week I'll upload others.



« Last Edit: October 30, 2013, 05:13:14 PM by Granja Galatas »

Granja Galatas

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
    • Guatemala c.a., San Raimundo
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2013, 05:11:33 PM »
Hola Julio ,

Unas semanas mas para que maduran los mios ( en Mexico )

Gracias Amigo, seguro esperare, mientras tanto he logrado colectar 10 semillas de zapote, son los ultimos y dio pocos este aņos (25), pero prometo fotografias de los que quedan, para el proximo aņo ya conte 250 frutos en camino.. y por supuesto me envias tu direccion para un intercambio. GRACIAS

Granja Galatas

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
    • Guatemala c.a., San Raimundo
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2013, 05:17:26 PM »
all seeds of this year we use to get plants and grafted next. I have 4 seeds available



« Last Edit: October 30, 2013, 05:25:41 PM by Granja Galatas »

Granja Galatas

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
    • Guatemala c.a., San Raimundo
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2013, 05:19:59 PM »



I found one of the last flying saucer black sapotes of the season at lunch time and I wonder if it has any seeds. Not a 3kg + monster but still bigger than average.


that's a black sapote mmm yumyum,,, save me seeds please.

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7410
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2013, 05:31:34 PM »
That one was seedless and some fruit from that type can weight well over double that particular fruit.

digigarden

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
    • Dominican Republic,Santo Domingo- zone 13
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2013, 12:55:49 PM »
i thought most diospyros species without a male tree nearby will ALWAYS give seedless fruit.

7_Heads

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 33
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2013, 01:25:24 PM »
Very good morning, dear friends growers, my name is Julio Mejia and I live in the central part of Guatemala, I am currently looking seeds black sapote (Diospyros digyna) ignored the seed production season, but will wait, in return I can send fresh seeds green sapote (Pouteria viridis) this year from last, round fruit, sweet and doughy, or for next year white sapote seeds (Casimiroa edulis) the variety is a cultivar that I have selected for my family for years, large fruit 4 to 6 inches, very sweet flesh and 2-4 seeds, much aroma, Thanks for everything and we are in contact.
Aloha Julio, I have some Black Sapote (Diospyros digyna) seedlings. Maybe we could exchange for your (Pouteria viridis) seed. Please contact me via email. JC

Granja Galatas

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
    • Guatemala c.a., San Raimundo
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2013, 05:56:42 PM »
Thank you,, first seeds received ..



NylsX

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 53
  • Green Roof Partisan
    • MEXICO, Acapulco , Guerrero. Zone 14.
    • View Profile
    • NylsX no Sekai
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2013, 07:12:00 PM »
Nice you got them ;) not sure if it was fast or slow considering we're so close.

Fruittylife

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 54
    • Costa Rica
    • View Profile
Re: looking for black sapote seeds (Diospyros digyna), exchange or buy.
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2013, 08:23:27 AM »
Im interested in green sapote seeds if you still need black sapote seeds i could get you.... let me know

 

Copyright © Tropical Fruit Forum - International Tropical Fruit Growers