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Treculia africana
« on: November 23, 2013, 06:51:13 PM »
Nice to see they are planting this on a huge scale .
http://www.nutrecul-agroforestry.com/index-6.html
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2013, 06:59:35 PM »
One of the fruits mentioned in Danforth's booklet " Congo Native Fruits " The company is micro-propagating them , seeds have a extremely low life if not fresh ,
I already contacted them . Only for ultra tropical areas .
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2013, 10:00:58 PM »
Luc, it looks like they are not too "ultra tropical". I've had one here in San Diego for a few years, although still in a pot. It is about 5 feet tall. I protect it on nights below 50 and it has been doing fine. I doubt I'll get it to fruit, but maybe.

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2013, 11:26:03 PM »
Not ultra tropical as i've seen african breadnut fruiting at F&S park long time ago. (I think those trees got wiped out in a hurricane?) I've got some nice 5 footers that need to go into the ground soon. So hope to have them fruiting some day.
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 07:29:50 AM »
Not ultra tropical. There is one big specimen at the research station in Tenerife.

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2013, 08:06:49 AM »
On the bottom of the link that you gave us they said:

"The extrapolation of these pedologic and climatic data, pointing out about 8000 places in the tropical and subtropical regions of the whole world, situated between latitude 17°30'N and 27°30'S. In every of these 8000 places, research of the soil-structure and climatic data are made. The species will adapt itself in nearly all the tropical and subtropical regions between the cited degrees of latitude."

They are much more cold tolerant than people think. 27.3 degrees latitude is Sarasota, Fl just to give an idea.

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 10:11:36 PM »
Not ultra tropical. There is one big specimen at the research station in Tenerife.

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Felipe , according to Jean Petit the founder and ceo of the company the one in Tenerife is an other variety . I'll suggest him to become a member , he may have access to a lot of other African sp we may be interested in .
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2013, 10:33:29 PM »
Hello!

ps: Thanks Luc for the invitation.



Based on detailed field observations, 3 varieties are distinguished within the subspecies: Treculia africana var. africana (Extending from Senegal to Southern Sudan and south to Angola, central Mozambique and Principe and Sao Tomé islands), Treculia africana var. inversa (Anambra State and Bendel State, more abundant in the eastern states of Nigeria) and Treculia africana var. mollis (Isolated localities in Bendel State of Nigeria, Cameroun, DR.Congo, Gabon and Cabinda).

Their taxonomic differences are based mainly on the size of the fruit head (infructence) and the hairiness of branchlets and leaves. There is a striking variation in the number of fruit heads produced by trees belonging to Treculia african var. africana (with large fruit heads) and Treculia african var. inversa (with small fruit heads). The former is clearly superior in the weight of seeds produced while the latter produces more fruit and also produces twice as many branches.

Key to the varieties of Treculia Africana

    1. Branchlets, petioles and undersurface of leaves soon glabrous, shining and glossy; leaves ovate-epilliptic:
    • Fruit head large, over 20 cm in diam.(Very large, being usually over 60 cm in longitudinal cicumference), often smooth; seeds also large, rounded, sometimes elongated, about 1.3 cm long; mesocarp over 5 cm thick; slash pinkish (var. africana)
    • Fruit heads small, usually less than 20 cm in diam., often knobbly or wrinkled; seeds small, elongated, sometimes more or less rounded, about 1 cm long or less; mesocarp less than 5 cm thick; slash brownish (var. inversa)
    2. Branchlets, petioles and undersurface of leaves with persistent spreading hairs, dull, not glossy; leaves oblong-elliptic;
    •Fruit heads small, usually less than 20 cm in diam., often knobbly or wrinkled; seeds, small, rounded to elongated, about 1 cm long; mesocarp less than 5 cm thick; slash pinkish (var. mollis)

Based on the photo above , i immediately recognise the var. mollis. We from Nutrecul we have over 10 varieties, but we are using for 90% of our reforestation projects the variety "Treculia africana decne var.africana cultivar. Nutreculia or gigantica". All extreme fruits above 15kg-25kg

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2013, 11:17:11 PM »
Nice to see they are planting this on a huge scale .
http://www.nutrecul-agroforestry.com/index-6.html


Great website, thanks for posting. Interesting about the different types of african breadfruit. Now you got me wondering about what type i have? Guess it's not possible to tell until they fruit, or are the leaves different also?
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2013, 11:22:16 PM »
Nice to see they are planting this on a huge scale .
http://www.nutrecul-agroforestry.com/index-6.html


Great website, thanks for posting. Interesting about the different types of african breadfruit. Now you got me wondering about what type i have? Guess it's not possible to tell until they fruit, or are the leaves different also?


if you can tell me where you got that tree from and send me a photo from the tree i can maybe tell.
color and size is also different in the genus
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2013, 11:26:33 PM »
Nice to see they are planting this on a huge scale .
http://www.nutrecul-agroforestry.com/index-6.html


Great website, thanks for posting. Interesting about the different types of african breadfruit. Now you got me wondering about what type i have? Guess it's not possible to tell until they fruit, or are the leaves different also?


if you can tell me where you got that tree from and send me a photo from the tree i can maybe tell.
color and size is also different in the genus


I bought the plants from a local nursery. I think he told me that he originally got the seeds from rarepalmseeds.com  Will take photos tomorrow, but the plants are only about 4 feet tall and still in pots.
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 12:10:22 AM »
Jean,

Just wondering are you familiar with T. obovoidea?  Is it similar (similar uses) to T. africana?

John

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 01:29:39 AM »
Here is a post I started about the Treculia a few months back. The photos of mine showing the leaves is in the post, wonder ing if they are similar to yours Oscar.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6038.msg80270#msg80270

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 12:50:56 PM »
Jean,

Just wondering are you familiar with T. obovoidea?  Is it similar (similar uses) to T. africana?

John


I have 3 sub genuses of the treculia; Treculia africana, Treculia agricana and Treculia obovoidea
Within the Treculia africana i have 3 varieties (var.mollis, var.inversa, var.africana)
And within the Treculia africana we have 10 cultivars (Nutreculia, Gigantica, ...)

Only Treculia africana bears fruit with edible seeds
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 12:52:28 PM »
Jean,

Just wondering are you familiar with T. obovoidea?  Is it similar (similar uses) to T. africana?

John

Tree isn't simular, different flower, smaller fruits, no edible seeds.
just a tree for wood production
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2013, 01:15:00 PM »
Here is a post I started about the Treculia a few months back. The photos of mine showing the leaves is in the post, wonder ing if they are similar to yours Oscar.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6038.msg80270#msg80270


need a close up on that one...
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2013, 01:32:48 PM »
@ the botanical collectors... (Outside Africa)

Treculia seeds (N.B the germination of theTreculia seeds is extremely short) need to be sown immediatly in pot else they lose 90% of their germination (and this after 2 days when you take them out of the fruit). The best thing would be if i send you invitro plants (tissue culture) or in pot.


MINIMUM ORDER = 500 YOUNG TREES (POT or TISSUE CULTURE), for 1ha.
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2013, 01:38:42 PM »

Since the demand for "Treculia africana decne var. africana subvar. Nutreculia" is high... i'm thinking of selling to botanicals. I can not send seeds since they lose very fast their germination and also cuttings or young plants are not an option since they will confiscate it at your local custom service. So i can offer you (sterile plant material) through tissue culture. If i receive a total order of atleast 500 plants , i'll be in the willing for to ship worldwide... 10$/plant. Since the plants i have in stock right now are reserved for reforestation projects. Ordering now, delivering arround end februari (since my company has a full agenda for larger projects.)












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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 07:51:06 PM »
Jean,

Just wondering are you familiar with T. obovoidea?  Is it similar (similar uses) to T. africana?

John


http://eol.org/pages/6960102/overview
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 09:24:23 PM »
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2013, 01:47:00 AM »
Jean,

Just wondering are you familiar with T. obovoidea?  Is it similar (similar uses) to T. africana?

John


http://eol.org/pages/6960102/overview

Noticed in this link that it says obovoidea is dioecious. Are all the treculia species including africana dioecious?
Oscar

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 12:19:32 PM »
Jean,

Just wondering are you familiar with T. obovoidea?  Is it similar (similar uses) to T. africana?

John


http://eol.org/pages/6960102/overview

Noticed in this link that it says obovoidea is dioecious. Are all the treculia species including africana dioecious?


Trees dioecious (sexes on separate trees) or sometimes monoecious.
Leaves in two ranks; stipules amplexicaul (enclosing the bud).
Inflorescences unisexual, sometimes bisexual, globose,
borne in the leaf axils or on the older wood and branches.
Pistillate (female) flowers lining the outer surface of a large receptacle (‘bread fruit’).
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 03:37:23 AM by Nutrecul Agroforestry »
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 12:21:30 PM »
From FEB2014 untill MARCH2014 i'll be in the North of Congo for an 2th expedition. (I'm living in kisantu 150km south of kinshasa)

Since there is so many interest for congo seeds, i'll need a reminder...

If you want seeds from Congo become a member from my new FB group...https://www.facebook.com/groups/368349426634663/

Pleas do NOT post in this group... POST ONLY WHAT YOU WISH TO ORDER (than i have an online orderlist) because i dont want to reply all the time on 1000 forums ;)
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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2013, 03:18:24 AM »
Nice to see they are planting this on a huge scale .
http://www.nutrecul-agroforestry.com/index-6.html


Great website, thanks for posting. Interesting about the different types of african breadfruit. Now you got me wondering about what type i have? Guess it's not possible to tell until they fruit, or are the leaves different also?


if you can tell me where you got that tree from and send me a photo from the tree i can maybe tell.
color and size is also different in the genus


I bought the plants from a local nursery. I think he told me that he originally got the seeds from rarepalmseeds.com  Will take photos tomorrow, but the plants are only about 4 feet tall and still in pots.


Here are some photos of my plants. Jean are you able to tell what type they are? Thanks.

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Re: Treculia africana
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2014, 01:43:53 PM »
Treculia africa inversa
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