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Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« on: December 19, 2013, 01:10:09 PM »
Is anyone growing almirajo (patinoa almirajo) or know where to get some seeds?  It is from Colombia and the taste is supposed to be quite good but I've never seen it for sale.

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Re: Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 03:07:05 PM »
A picture of the fruit at page six. Native to Chocˇ, Colombia.

http://158.42.125.239/publicomav/899.pdf

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Another important species in this family is almirajˇ (Patinoa almirajo Cuatrec.), which is very common in the Chocˇ. It is a tree of 2m in height that produces 20- to 40-cm long, pear-shaped or ovoid fruits, with a hard, opaque yellowish, skin. The pulp is yellow with an acid-sweet flavour. Sapote usually fetches higher prices than almirajˇ.

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Re: Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 12:19:58 AM »
Thank you Evilfruit, that has some good info about the region.  The fruit sounds like it really likes rain!

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Re: Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 06:21:14 PM »
Even after 5 years since this topic was created. No one seems to be interested in this fruit.

Sorry for bringing this ancient topic back.  ;D
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Re: Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 06:40:19 PM »
I noticed how hard it was to find info about this plant when gathering data on it.  Here's the various descriptions I found:

"Large fruit, sweet canistel-like pulp. Commercial fruit in the Colombian Chocˇ."
"The edible fruit is highly esteemed in its native Colombia, but is little known elsewhere".
"Edible qualities varying from custard-like to mealy and with an agreeable sweetness and flavour lying somewhere between banana and apple". A-vÝtamin rich.
"The pulp is yellow with an acid-sweet flavour. Sapote [Q. cordata] usually fetches higher prices than almirajˇ " -  Page also however says that the tree is only 2m, which seems to contradict other sources that say normally to 15m, exceptionally to 20m, with a 25cm trunk.
"with pulp is formed by powdery matter, agglutinated by a bittersweet molasses that allows its tasting with spoon"

I found no pollination data, although the flowers at least look bisexual. Found no productivity data. Supposedly likes clay loams with pH 4,5 to 7, with a "normal" level of moisture, and is flood (but not drought) tolerant. Likes  daytime temperatures from 25-27░C, tolerating 19-35░C. Apparently likes some (but not heavy) shade. Ideally 1300-1800mm of rainfall per year. Loves humidity.

Crossreferencing its GBIF sample locations with NASA climate data I get the following averages:

Winter (low/avg/high): 17,8 / 22,6 / 27,4
Annual avg. (low/avg/high): 18,4 / 23,3 / 28,2
Summer (low / avg / high): 18,9 / 23,9 / 28,2
Daily temperature fluctuations (min / avg / max): 9,2 / 9,8 / 10,6
Average cloudcover (min / avg / max): 72% / 78% / 83%
Wet days per month (dry season, avg, wet season): 13 / 19 / 23,7
Sunlight daily average W/m▓ (min, avg, max): 113 / 131 / 149
Average humidity (note: the humidity data from NASA is sometimes a bit weird and I'm not sure why) (dry, avg, wet): 79%, 82%, 85%
Average windspeed (min, avg, max), m/s: 2,76 / 3,7 / 4,87
Daily precipitation, mm (dry, avg, wet): 6,42 / 10,66 / 15,02
Monsoonal climate rating (my formula): 39% (somewhat, but not heavily, monsoonal)

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It's nice having a database  :)  Just wish I had more info on some of these less common species...  Right now I'm digging through research papers for PPFD saturation data (aka, how much sunlight the leaves can *actually* use, rather than just "Some guy on the net says that they like full sun")... unfortunately I didn't find any for Patinoa sp.  So right now all I have to go on with this species is that they prefer some (but not heavy) shade to full sun.  And it's worth noting that they're from a place with pretty heavy average daily cloudcover.

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Re: Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 03:06:32 PM »
Soon, I should have a very beautiful Patinoa almirajo seedling.
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Re: Patinoa almirajo anyone growing it?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 06:21:06 PM »
Great info, thank you!

I have 4 seedlings around a year old that are growing moderately well for me in deep 2.8 gallon pots. They stay warm to hot all year, in a humidity greenhouse with 20% shade cloth and receives sun from the early morning until around 1:00. They get watered 2-3 times a week with regular hose water and a pinch of palm tree fertilizer once a month.

Hopefully I'll continue to be lucky!

 

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