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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #425 on: May 24, 2018, 10:37:08 AM »
Oh, nice -- well I'll move the seedlings to their own tall pots and hope they grow well!

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« Reply #426 on: May 24, 2018, 12:04:54 PM »
Mark, Ive suspected Imbe may be the best rootstock for Luc's in CA since it likes the drier conditions. A friend on dry side of the Big Island tops his 20 year old Imbe thicket to 4 FT every year for increased fruit production. I only have 2 year old seedlings from his Imbe , but it's had me thinking. Your experience further's this line of thought for me.

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« Reply #427 on: May 24, 2018, 01:09:27 PM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.
Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?

I grafted several scions from Raul on May2016 (2 years ago). Some on Luc's Garcinias and some on achachairu. About 80% of scions took well and are still fine, but growth has been really slow, just a couple of flushes a year on the grafted scions, much slower than regular luc's garcinia. Only time will tell if grafts produce faster than the ungrafted trees. F.

I grafted a couple from that same batch in 2016 to my in the ground Imbe, and one of the grafts is over 3 feet tall now. My in the ground Imbes are over 10 feet tall so that might be the best rootstock for the Luc's.

very interesting! I have a 3ft imbe in the ground, I'm going to try to graft a piece of Luc's graft growth on the Imbe and try to compare to growth in achachairu. Thanks.
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #428 on: May 25, 2018, 01:38:33 PM »
Ants love the flowers & a wasp hive within 4 feet. No pollenation !  Apparently east maui has NO BEES!

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« Reply #429 on: May 25, 2018, 07:26:31 PM »
Ants love the flowers & a wasp hive within 4 feet. No pollenation !  Apparently east maui has NO BEES!
It's pretty easy to hand pollinate garcinia flowers. Just take a male flower, remove petals, and wipe the pollen onto center part of female flower.
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« Reply #430 on: May 25, 2018, 09:17:12 PM »
The flowers on mine are all over the ground underneath my Luc's Garcia after a week of howling wind. I was wondering if it is too small and young for fruiting but noticed this morning 2 fruit a little over 1cm are hanging on tenaciously. Maybe I will be in luck yet. My two others of the same age and size and much larger older one are comparative 'ass-draggers' with no sign of action.

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« Reply #431 on: May 25, 2018, 09:36:44 PM »
Thanks oscar i shall try that. I was going to use a watercolor brush. Perhaps try both. Have go to do something as one tree is like a flower machine . The rest no comparison .

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« Reply #432 on: June 14, 2018, 03:43:47 PM »
How long does it take for these to germinate?  I have had them in soil for about three weeks now and have not seen any signs of germination.  One of the seeds looked like it was germinating before I planted it but have not seen anything come above the soil.

I hope I haven't been over watering them.  I have them under some tree canopy and a shade cloth above them so they don;t get any direct sun but still see filtered light.   I mist the soil surface with a garden sprayer every morning.  Fingers crossed!

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« Reply #433 on: June 14, 2018, 04:39:39 PM »
How long does it take for these to germinate?  I have had them in soil for about three weeks now and have not seen any signs of germination.  One of the seeds looked like it was germinating before I planted it but have not seen anything come above the soil.

I hope I haven't been over watering them.  I have them under some tree canopy and a shade cloth above them so they don;t get any direct sun but still see filtered light.   I mist the soil surface with a garden sprayer every morning.  Fingers crossed!


I had 10 out of 10 germinate. Some took about a month and others took 2-3 months.
I recently started germinating G. braziliensis seeds and put 6 in pots and left 4 in a baggie
with damp vermiculite. So far two germinated in the baggie in about 6 weeks and I put in
pots. I have some more Luc's Garcinia seeds and I think I am going to leave them in a baggie
with damp vermiculite. So far every garcinia seed I have ever attempted to germinate has even
G. dulcis in the cool winter. They took 3-4 months but 6 out of 6 germinated. Now if I can figure
out how to make them grow fast.
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #434 on: June 14, 2018, 08:11:08 PM »
Update on my graft (Scions from Raul)

I grafted 3

1 died early and has been cut off the plant.

The other is brown on the top by green about 3 inches from the union down.  I have left it on but assume it too will likely not survive.  I hold out hope because it is green past a set of nodes.  The top is dead though.  The root stock pushed new growth from just below the graft.
You might be able to see the graft behind the new growth in this picture.



The third did well and took.  The first leaves were tiny, the second flush a little more reasonably sized.
The grafts were on branches of the same G Intermedia.
Pictures taken a few minutes ago.



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« Reply #435 on: June 25, 2018, 08:26:50 AM »
Grafted in june 2016, var. prolific from Raul. Not sure, but maybe first fruitlet in Europe? 
Did only about 2-3 growth flushes before flowering, I missed the flower stage as it was in the corner in greenhouse and I was just going to check it as it havent made any new growth for a quite long, now I know why...







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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #436 on: June 25, 2018, 04:10:54 PM »
Grafted in june 2016, var. prolific from Raul. Not sure, but maybe first fruitlet in Europe? 
Did only about 2-3 growth flushes before flowering, I missed the flower stage as it was in the corner in greenhouse and I was just going to check it as it havent made any new growth for a quite long, now I know why...







Wow! That is very small to be fruiting already. How old is that plant?
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« Reply #437 on: June 25, 2018, 04:33:45 PM »
Is that on the graft union?

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« Reply #438 on: June 25, 2018, 04:47:15 PM »
Grafted in june 2016, var. prolific from Raul. Not sure, but maybe first fruitlet in Europe? 
Did only about 2-3 growth flushes before flowering, I missed the flower stage as it was in the corner in greenhouse and I was just going to check it as it havent made any new growth for a quite long, now I know why...







Wow! That is very small to be fruiting already. How old is that plant?

I think the key is in grafting scions from an adult tree, just as happen with mangoes, litchis and many others fruit trees. The results of sanitarium seem to point is worth grafting this slow trees to save the long waiting of seedlings. Really good news if similar results from other members proves this hypothesis right.  ;)
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« Reply #439 on: June 26, 2018, 03:51:51 AM »

Wow! That is very small to be fruiting already. How old is that plant?

Rootstock was I think 1+ year old when grafted so it could be 3+yr old alltogether..

Is that on the graft union?


Nope the graft union is lower about where the first string is...








I think the key is in grafting scions from an adult tree, just as happen with mangoes, litchis and many others fruit trees. The results of sanitarium seem to point is worth grafting this slow trees to save the long waiting of seedlings. Really good news if similar results from other members proves this hypothesis right.  ;)

Could be a sleeping flower bud.. :)
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« Reply #440 on: July 31, 2018, 06:19:22 PM »
Well, here it is.  Found it on the ground this afternoon- yard guys were here in the morning so not sure if they knocked it off.  It had stopped growing and color changed on the tree, so it was at least close to ready even if they did inadvertently knock it down.

It is smaller than I had hoped- I plan on waiting at least a few days until I try it. 




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« Reply #441 on: July 31, 2018, 07:17:19 PM »
Whooohoooo!

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« Reply #442 on: July 31, 2018, 07:29:09 PM »
Milestone. Fabulous. We await the evaluation.

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« Reply #443 on: July 31, 2018, 10:31:22 PM »
We have a winner & talent !

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« Reply #444 on: July 31, 2018, 10:32:42 PM »
These are the first Luc Garcinia fruits out of Mexico.

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« Reply #445 on: July 31, 2018, 11:12:14 PM »
These are the first Luc Garcinia fruits out of Mexico.

Sadhu fruited his in Puerto Rico a couple years ago

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« Reply #446 on: August 01, 2018, 01:04:23 AM »
Sadhu fruited his in Puerto Rico a couple years ago

Whoop good to know. Thanks dwfl for the info! Not sure if Sadhu's Luc tree has survived Maria.
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« Reply #447 on: August 01, 2018, 01:05:36 AM »
The long awaited moment! Congrats.
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« Reply #448 on: August 01, 2018, 02:05:53 AM »
I have a 3.5ft tree that is over 3 years old and one fruit stuck and is now half grown.

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« Reply #449 on: August 01, 2018, 03:31:40 AM »




I hope the fruit hangs on and grows through the last part of winter

 

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