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Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« on: April 05, 2012, 09:11:58 PM »
Which mango varieties are earliest this year?  We have had several strange winters lately!

Today, at Truly Tropical, I ate 'Tess' and 'Rosa,' both of which had their first tree-ripened fruits of this season the last week of March.

I like 'Rosa' a lot, because I grew up eating it in northern Brazil, and because I like really strong-tasting mangos.

I had never had 'Tess' before today.  It is thought to be a hybrid of 'Carrie' with 'Turpentine.'  Because I like strong-tasting mangos, 'Carrie''s flavor, and fiber-free texture and thin edible skin win hands-down with me, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY 'CARRIE' RIPE NOW, and probably won't be for another month!

'Tess' has several obvious advantages:  Very Early, Heavy Production, Bright Yellow Color, Firm Texture, and thick Tough Skin.  Its flavor is good enough, milder than 'Carrie', with some tartness.  It does have fiber, but no worse than a 'Haden.'

No trees are currently available for sale, but she is selling the fruit.
Har

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 09:35:55 PM »
I have never had Tess or Rosa. They sound interesting though.

Pretty sure some members here have Rosigolds getting close.

In Jupiter I saw Edward fruit that was starting to color up. This was from the November bloom.

I got what I believe is a  mature 'Zill' fruit the other day from a tree in West Palm:





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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 10:24:30 PM »
My favorite, 'Edward"  From November bloom.


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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 11:10:03 PM »
Which mango varieties are earliest this year?  We have had several strange winters lately!

Today, at Truly Tropical, I ate 'Tess' and 'Rosa,' both of which had their first tree-ripened fruits of this season the last week of March.

I like 'Rosa' a lot, because I grew up eating it in northern Brazil, and because I like really strong-tasting mangos.

I had never had 'Tess' before today.  It is thought to be a hybrid of 'Carrie' with 'Turpentine.'  Because I like strong-tasting mangos, 'Carrie''s flavor, and fiber-free texture and thin edible skin win hands-down with me, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY 'CARRIE' RIPE NOW, and probably won't be for another month!

'Tess' has several obvious advantages:  Very Early, Heavy Production, Bright Yellow Color, Firm Texture, and thick Tough Skin.  Its flavor is good enough, milder than 'Carrie', with some tartness.  It does have fiber, but no worse than a 'Haden.'

No trees are currently available for sale, but she is selling the fruit.
What is Rosa like, taste and texture ?
- Rob

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 11:32:24 PM »
pickerings are about 2-3weeks away they are almost full size and begining to blush...but only one tree I  have in a pot is so early...so it may not count or qualify for applying to what you're asking.

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 07:02:10 AM »
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

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*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 07:11:26 AM by zands »

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 07:48:59 AM »
Hi Guanabanus,

I luv Rosa mango ;D ;D ;D  It has a nice spicy flavour! YUMMY ;D

I order a grafted Rosa mango at the Governmental nursery here! 
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 07:53:30 AM »
I've never tried Rosa or Tess either.  I have no Rosigolds from the November bloom.  Closest for me are Extrema and Thai Everbearing with a possible Edward sneaking into the mix.  But I am still a ways off from actually eating a mango this season from my yard.

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 08:03:47 AM »
I have Rosigolds that are only a week or two away from being ready. My Edwards still have a long way to go they are just the size of large olives. 

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 08:26:46 AM »
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)



Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 09:13:13 AM »
I have Glenn and Rosigold but they are still far from being ready.
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 09:29:07 AM »
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?

I saw that last night also.  I don't think Rosa is the same as Dwarf Hawaiian as I have never heard them been synonymous.  I tried some of her Dwarf Hawaiians last year (not this early and when she had other good mangoes available, PPK, Duncan, etc.).  They were ok but to have one this early and little to no other varieties available, I would probably say they were excellent.
- Rob

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 09:38:17 AM »
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)
Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?

Palmer is a commercial cultivar here....been cultivated for a long time.  Gets purple coloration early and is often picked while immature because the color is deceiving.  Flavor wise it is good on the Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale.  It never challenges for top spot but is a solid mango flavorwise when allowed ripen properly.  Extrema seems to be resistant and susceptable to disease.  I say that because on one hand the fruits at my house usually get a rough brown exterior from some interaction with fungus or something else that irritates the skin and causes it to look almost like a potato or a mammee apple.  On the other hand, the fruits mature and are quite good (but have a strong resisnous flavor) eventhough the skin looks like it does. It is an early and very consistant producer.

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 09:40:04 AM »

I saw that last night also.  I don't think Rosa is the same as Dwarf Hawaiian as I have never heard them been synonymous.  I tried some of her Dwarf Hawaiians last year (not this early and when she had other good mangoes available, PPK, Duncan, etc.).  They were ok but to have one this early and little to no other varieties available, I would probably say they were excellent.


Rosa is a distinct Latin American more Brazilian mango got nothing to do w Hawaii  :) ....Photos over here.
And also over here....
.Early is what counts for me not so much it being a very good mango

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2012, 10:13:56 AM »
I may have some Joellens and Rosigolds in about a month. Nothing else is even close.

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2012, 10:24:19 AM »
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)
Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?

Palmer is a commercial cultivar here....been cultivated for a long time.  Gets purple coloration early and is often picked while immature because the color is deceiving.  Flavor wise it is good on the Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale.  It never challenges for top spot but is a solid mango flavorwise when allowed ripen properly.  Extrema seems to be resistant and susceptable to disease.  I say that because on one hand the fruits at my house usually get a rough brown exterior from some interaction with fungus or something else that irritates the skin and causes it to look almost like a potato or a mammee apple.  On the other hand, the fruits mature and are quite good (but have a strong resisnous flavor) eventhough the skin looks like it does. It is an early and very consistant producer.

Harry

Hi Harry,
Thanks for the info! We get excellent palmers from Brazil, they never disapoint me ;) but, i can't say the same about the tommy!!! I bought 3 tommies last week, they weren't top quality and half way ripe!

Extrema is the one for me ;D ;D ;D, I really luv a strong flavoured mango!

You guy's are really lucky over there! Countless varieties to choice from!!!

I'm really sad about my Island! good climate but no good mangoes :( :( :(

 



 
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2012, 10:46:50 AM »
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)
Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?

Palmer is a commercial cultivar here....been cultivated for a long time.  Gets purple coloration early and is often picked while immature because the color is deceiving.  Flavor wise it is good on the Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale.  It never challenges for top spot but is a solid mango flavorwise when allowed ripen properly.  Extrema seems to be resistant and susceptable to disease.  I say that because on one hand the fruits at my house usually get a rough brown exterior from some interaction with fungus or something else that irritates the skin and causes it to look almost like a potato or a mammee apple.  On the other hand, the fruits mature and are quite good (but have a strong resisnous flavor) eventhough the skin looks like it does. It is an early and very consistant producer.

Harry

Hi Harry,
Thanks for the info! We get excellent palmers from Brazil, they never disapoint me ;) but, i can't say the same about the tommy!!! I bought 3 tommies last week, they weren't top quality and half way ripe!

Extrema is the one for me ;D ;D ;D, I really luv a strong flavoured mango!

You guy's are really lucky over there! Countless varieties to choice from!!!

I'm really sad about my Island! good climate but no good mangoes :( :( :(
When you say Tommies I assume you mean Tommy Atkins ?  There isn't much positive to say about a Tommy Atkins  :(
- Rob

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 11:02:12 AM »
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(

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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2012, 11:28:06 AM »
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(
Have you sprayed for it ?
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 11:33:14 AM »
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(
Have you sprayed for it ?

I usually use pure sulphur powder! but, I forgot about it :(

My tree's are on the other side of the Island(Calheta)! I can't go there everyday! to my dissapointment :( :( :(
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 12:32:19 PM »
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(
Have you sprayed for it ?

I usually use pure sulphur powder! but, I forgot about it :(

My tree's are on the other side of the Island(Calheta)! I can't go there everyday! to my dissapointment :( :( :(
A foliar spray would probably work better and you wouldn't have to apply that often.  Is it too late to sacrifice any of the blooms ?  Even if the blooms are gone, you should still treat the tree.
- Rob

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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2012, 12:51:22 PM »


This pic was taken about a month ago! I went there 2 week ago and each panicle is about 60% with powdery mildew! is there a chance I will get any fruit?
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2012, 01:09:07 PM »


This pic was taken about a month ago! I went there 2 week ago and each panicle is about 60% with powdery mildew! is there a chance I will get any fruit?

Just going by my own experience you have a good chance. I had PM on a few trees that are now holding decent size developing mangoes that have gotten past the PM....so keep your fingers crossed.

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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2012, 01:28:37 PM »


This pic was taken about a month ago! I went there 2 week ago and each panicle is about 60% with powdery mildew! is there a chance I will get any fruit?

Just going by my own experience you have a good chance. I had PM on a few trees that are now holding decent size developing mangoes that have gotten past the PM....so keep your fingers crossed.

Hi Zands,
That's sound's great ;D ;D ;D
I will ask my uncle to do as Rob suggested!  Thanks, I will keep my fingers crossed!!! ;) maybe, this time i will get to taste a mango from my tree :)
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Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2012, 09:51:03 PM »
I like strongly resinous mangos, such as 'Extrema' and 'Rosa'. 

'Rosa' is very firm, moderately fibrous, sweet-tart and very resinous if you eat the skin with the pulp--- delicious, with none of the bitterness found in the skins of most other varieties.

"Tommy Atkins' skin is also very tasty when eaten with the pulp.  The pulp by itself is maybe good in fish sauce.
Har

 

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