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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB black Sapote scions
« on: May 23, 2024, 11:43:01 AM »
i grafted black sapote to persimmon takes grows for a bit then delay death kicks in and dies

Yeah, I’ve had those kinds of failures just grafting between kaki and virginiana too. Persimmons are kinda all over the place as far as I can tell.
Did you do many of these black spots grafts? Or just a few?

im going to keys on june 3 if u cant find black sapote scions by then let me know and ill grab some from some friends down their

That would be awesome! Thanks! I’ll send you a message

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB black Sapote scions
« on: May 22, 2024, 12:48:35 PM »
I’d love to hear updates on this.

Current update is that I have failed to inspire anyone to sell me scion. But thanks for the bump, I’m still interested! And I’ll definitely update if my scion fortunes change.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB black Sapote scions
« on: May 19, 2024, 01:43:06 PM »
Hello! I’ve heard that D. nigra has some graft compatibility on D. virginiana and am interested in getting some black Sapote scion wood from high quality named varieties, preferably from a mature tree that has already fruited. I’m a little skeptical of the project as there seem to be so many graft incompatibility issues within the persimmon family, but I’ve got some extra seedlings, so, what the heck.

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Thanks Nate! Received my plant quickly and in great shape. Really appreciate it!

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I think May is good here for grafting pawpaws. They need to be leafed out. It’s possible they could get scorched if grafting into summer, but I toss my grafted trees into shady conditions anyway.
I’m only just starting to get named varieties. Last year, my 2 favorites were Allegheny and KSU Chappell.
Maybe you mean “Tropical Treat”? I have this one, but no fruit yet. There’s a variety traded around on other forums called “Cherimoya West” that’s supposedly got cherimoya flavor. And an unreleased KSU variety referred to as “Piña Colada”. I hear Susquehanna is great, I haven’t tried it yet, KSU Chappell and Potomac are sometimes called similar and they’re both good. I only had a couple Overleese last year, maybe they’re first fruits and will change, but they weren’t particularly “tropically” tasting to my memory.
Generally, I find that freshly dropped pawpaws have a bit of a tropical vibe, but I actually prefer them counter ripened when they remind me more of a baked dessert.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 02:08:59 PM »
Also I highly recommend you attend his next Scion exchange and bring your rarest best varieties to share, while the fig hunter sits in a booth next to you and sells all his for top dollar. Let him shit on you.


What's your source that he's rebranding popular figs?

Here's one example.



I grow a ton of figs and know a little about this so I guess I’ll keep chiming in. The fig in this quote is considered to be a wild seedling. Both “Sacred Origin” and “the fig hunter” found this fig. They both named it. And they are resolving the problem of synonymous fig names. No big deal.
I think there has been an instance or two where it can be hard to tell whether a fig is a seedling or if it is a named variety. I seem to recall some disagreement about a “seedling” looking an awful lot like White Adriatic.

Compare their varieties to the ones on this site

https://onegreenworld.com/product-category/fruiting-trees-shrubs/fig/?orderby=price-desc

This is really poor evidence. Identifying fruits typically requires much more comprehensive and intentional photography rather than a singular promotional marketing photo. Interestingly, One Green World is hopping on the CA seedling bandwagon. Black Manzanita is a tasty seedling popularized by Alastair, I think he’s on here as FigoVelo.

Look, I think I’m allergic to people being crapped on online. I can’t seem to help myself. My heart’s not in standing up for this guy but here we are.

lol, no thanks. I’m way less cool in person

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 12:09:20 PM »
What's your source that he's rebranding popular figs?

Here's one example.



I grow a ton of figs and know a little about this so I guess I’ll keep chiming in. The fig in this quote is considered to be a wild seedling. Both “Sacred Origin” and “the fig hunter” found this fig. They both named it. And they are resolving the problem of synonymous fig names. No big deal.
I think there has been an instance or two where it can be hard to tell whether a fig is a seedling or if it is a named variety. I seem to recall some disagreement about a “seedling” looking an awful lot like White Adriatic.

Compare their varieties to the ones on this site

https://onegreenworld.com/product-category/fruiting-trees-shrubs/fig/?orderby=price-desc

This is really poor evidence. Identifying fruits typically requires much more comprehensive and intentional photography rather than a singular promotional marketing photo. Interestingly, One Green World is hopping on the CA seedling bandwagon. Black Manzanita is a tasty seedling popularized by Alastair, I think he’s on here as FigoVelo.

Look, I think I’m allergic to people being crapped on online. I can’t seem to help myself. My heart’s not in standing up for this guy but here we are.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: February 29, 2024, 12:14:55 PM »
I think the mission of the guy is to collect, and sell, fig varieties that he finds which he thinks are wild seedlings. California is special in that the fig pollinator wasp has been naturalized and we do get new varieties appearing as a result. One of my favorite figs, Eve’s Black Cherry, is a found CA seedling, so this mission does have value. And a friend of mine found a fig in Benicia, CA, which he calls Benicia Dark Unk, which is a beautiful and excellent fig. I think it’s probably the same fig that’s marketed by the fig hunter as Corazon de la Bahia. At least that one fig is great. Probably, not all of them are good.

He and I don’t communicate well, and got off on a bad foot trying to talk about the Black Fig Fly, a newly introduced, major pest of figs. People can easily further the spread of this pest by taking infested fruits and plants (there is a soil-borne portion of the life cycle) from areas with the pest (mostly southern CA) to areas without (I’m concerned about northern CA). So, while it’s nice to share fruits and plants, ignorance of pests can be a real bugger.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla taste
« on: January 23, 2024, 05:29:01 PM »
I tried these “Chico” in Kauai last month. Found them at a farmers market. They were not good. Pretty soft and juicy, not sweet but also not astringent. I would say funky, maybe some sort of vegetable flavors. Only sapodilla I’ve tried. I’m guessing I’ll like named varieties better.



What a bummer... the fruit that I've tried are almost overpoweringly sweet (that's saying something since I have a pretty big sweet tooth). Maybe too much water around the harvest period for the ones you tried? You should try ordering a mixed variety box of sapodilla from Lara Farms when they have them back in stock and see if you like them better.

EDIT: Oops, I just realized you're also located in California and can't order the fruit to be shipped over... guess you'll have to make a pilgrimage to Florida to acquire decent fresh fruit in that case. I found some chicos at my local Seafood City market in Sac, but don't think I've ever seen any at the Vallejo location. The ones I got from Sac were mediocre ones that were imported from Hawaii anyway.

I’m pretty sure that I’ll enjoy good quality named varieties. I’m growing seedlings, they’re doing well with the winter so far. But, they are growing sloooooow. Hoping to graft them one day

Yeah, I'm sure you can't go wrong with any of the named varieties. Glad to hear your seedlings are doing well in our NorCal winter so far, and they sure do grow slow. It gets scorching hot during the summers in Davis where I'm at and I notice that my grafted Alano and Hasya trees grow much more quickly when it's super hot outside.

Hope you have success with your seedlings, hopefully you can get some budwood from some of the forum members here. As a "Plan B", I know Tropical Acres Farms in Flordia also sell scions of Alano, Gigantia, Hasya, Martin, Molix, Morena, Oxkutzcab/"Ox", Tikal, Thomas, and Silas Wood (I don't see "Makok" listed as available for some reason... guess it's just too similar to "Silas Wood" for them to grow it).

Thanks for the tip!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla taste
« on: January 23, 2024, 05:07:38 PM »
I tried these “Chico” in Kauai last month. Found them at a farmers market. They were not good. Pretty soft and juicy, not sweet but also not astringent. I would say funky, maybe some sort of vegetable flavors. Only sapodilla I’ve tried. I’m guessing I’ll like named varieties better.



What a bummer... the fruit that I've tried are almost overpoweringly sweet (that's saying something since I have a pretty big sweet tooth). Maybe too much water around the harvest period for the ones you tried? You should try ordering a mixed variety box of sapodilla from Lara Farms when they have them back in stock and see if you like them better.

EDIT: Oops, I just realized you're also located in California and can't order the fruit to be shipped over... guess you'll have to make a pilgrimage to Florida to acquire decent fresh fruit in that case. I found some chicos at my local Seafood City market in Sac, but don't think I've ever seen any at the Vallejo location. The ones I got from Sac were mediocre ones that were imported from Hawaii anyway.

I’m pretty sure that I’ll enjoy good quality named varieties. I’m growing seedlings, they’re doing well with the winter so far. But, they are growing sloooooow. Hoping to graft them one day

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Anyone growing the Pink and/or White Tropical Guavas sold by Four Winds Growers? I’m growing both of these in pots and am curious if people like these fruits. I’m thinking of planting them in ground the Spring.

Tropical guavas are tricky for us in northern califonria because the fruits are ripening in our coldest and wettest months.  I have not had a good tropical guava that is grown outdoors in the ground, they just turn out flavorless and watery. Maybe if we get a drought year, there is potential for good ripening conditions. At this point, I think the only way to do tropical guavas will be potted or in the ground in a hoop house where conditions can be controlled a little more. My farm is right above 4 winds growers too, haha.

Do you think potted guavas outside would do better than in ground?
I don’t have a greenhouse. And probably won’t.
If pots would do better than in ground, I’m wondering if good drainage on a slope would work well. I do have that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla taste
« on: January 23, 2024, 03:27:27 PM »
I tried these “Chico” in Kauai last month. Found them at a farmers market. They were not good. Pretty soft and juicy, not sweet but also not astringent. I would say funky, maybe some sort of vegetable flavors. Only sapodilla I’ve tried. I’m guessing I’ll like named varieties better.



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Anyone growing the Pink and/or White Tropical Guavas sold by Four Winds Growers? I’m growing both of these in pots and am curious if people like these fruits. I’m thinking of planting them in ground the Spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria lucuma
« on: January 18, 2024, 03:46:22 PM »
Tim kindly gave me a couple of the seeds from the original post, which I planted. Both grew well and just recently I noticed a fruit set on one!


This post from earlier in the thread appears to be in Vallejo, CA. I mean, maybe the members info was updated since posting? But this is promising for Bay Area folks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fino de jete
« on: January 13, 2024, 06:54:16 PM »
But pretty much all cherimoya taste really nice.

Are there particular ones you’d say don’t taste nice? Beginning cherimoya grower here

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this lucuma, canistel, or … ?
« on: January 08, 2024, 10:45:45 PM »
I may be asking this prematurely, but can I graft lucuma scions onto canistel rootstock?

I’ve heard “yes”, but lucuma is more cold hardy than canistel, so you might not be doing yourself a favor grafting that way

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I had terrible luck sprouting many of the “Araza” guavas. A total bust on the hybrid and others. I think I’ve got a tiny Araza Grande going. If anyone has hybrid Araza seedlings for trade or sale, I’d be interested in the Spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Winter fruits on Kauai recommendation?
« on: November 26, 2023, 11:17:30 AM »
I’ll be visiting Kauai this winter and am hoping to find some excellent fruit. I’ll be in the Princeville area and don’t really know what fruits I can hope to find. I’ve had mixed success in previous visits. Can anyone recommend a great place to find an assortment of high quality fruits this time of year? Thanks!

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Congrats to Aaron!
The number was 50.
Contest is over.

Awesome! Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 01:02:55 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 12:59:24 AM »
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Aaron - forum member here
has a bunch of cool stuff.
He is in CA?
I got some cool ksu stuff from him.

Thanks, Ryan, yeah, I sell pawpaw trees. I’m a licensed propagator of KSU Trademarked varieties:
KSU Atwood TM
KSU Benson TM
KSU Chappell TM
Trees are going dormant now. Grafted in May of 2022 and in 12” pots. Asking $50 each + shipping.
Personally, I’ve found pawpaws to be tougher than a lot of what I’ve read online. But some people with more experience than myself (and in different climates) caution that pawpaws are better planted in the Spring than in the Fall. Something about the way they’ve evolved dormancy. The roots apparently aren’t actively growing in the Winter and may be prone to rot or some kind of problems. I may have some of that wrong. Anyway, I planted trees here in zone 9b in Napa, CA in the Fall with no negative impact. I’m happy to sell dormant trees now, or active in the Spring. I might have a few other named varieties next Spring too. If interested, feel free to reach out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sc4001992 Betty#1 fig trial updates
« on: October 27, 2023, 09:39:01 PM »
Looks like I’ll have at least one extra. If someone Kaz sent these to fails to root theirs, I should be able to share a tree with them in the Spring.




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