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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Winter fruits on Kauai recommendation?
« on: November 26, 2023, 11:17:30 AM »
Iíll be visiting Kauai this winter and am hoping to find some excellent fruit. Iíll be in the Princeville area and donít really know what fruits I can hope to find. Iíve had mixed success in previous visits. Can anyone recommend a great place to find an assortment of high quality fruits this time of year? Thanks!

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Congrats to Aaron!
The number was 50.
Contest is over.

Awesome! Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 01:02:55 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 12:59:24 AM »
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Aaron - forum member here
has a bunch of cool stuff.
He is in CA?
I got some cool ksu stuff from him.

Thanks, Ryan, yeah, I sell pawpaw trees. Iím a licensed propagator of KSU Trademarked varieties:
KSU Atwood TM
KSU Benson TM
KSU Chappell TM
Trees are going dormant now. Grafted in May of 2022 and in 12Ē pots. Asking $50 each + shipping.
Personally, Iíve found pawpaws to be tougher than a lot of what Iíve read online. But some people with more experience than myself (and in different climates) caution that pawpaws are better planted in the Spring than in the Fall. Something about the way theyíve evolved dormancy. The roots apparently arenít actively growing in the Winter and may be prone to rot or some kind of problems. I may have some of that wrong. Anyway, I planted trees here in zone 9b in Napa, CA in the Fall with no negative impact. Iím happy to sell dormant trees now, or active in the Spring. I might have a few other named varieties next Spring too. If interested, feel free to reach out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sc4001992 Betty#1 fig trial updates
« on: October 27, 2023, 09:39:01 PM »
Looks like Iíll have at least one extra. If someone Kaz sent these to fails to root theirs, I should be able to share a tree with them in the Spring.




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A friend of mine yanked out a root sucker and offered it to me. I have grafted Honey Jar to it. It grows, but slowly. I think the root sucker has little roots at present. Iíve only eaten the odd jujube that shows up at the grocery store. So far, Iíve never really enjoyed them. Probably theyíre low quality? People seem to like Honey Jar.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Paw Paw tree's
« on: October 12, 2023, 01:27:02 PM »
that was my 1st fresh pawpaw custardy texture reminded me of its related cherimoya but softer the fruit had this almost flan taste going on I really enjoyed would make great ice cream i bet.  I put all the seeds I got out of the fruits in the fridge ill plant them in a month or so.  Crazy to think that pawpaw are the biggest native fruit to north America and almost went extinct during world war 2.
In aaronn message he states that planting in the spring maybe be the best bet due to pawpaw roots may not grow much during winter dormancy.  I was reading the roots are sensitive.  I like that Deer dont like Pawpaw either and you can plant them close 5ft spacing to emulate how they grow in the wild.  Im thinlking about planting a row now and planting another row in spring to compare.

Deer eat them here, don't believe that hype.

Deer have eaten them here too. I have a small orchard fenced in on 3 sides. Itís mostly figs, but some pawpaws, persimmons, feijoas, and a couple other things. The pawpaws were planted toward the back of the orchard, furthest from the unfenced side. Those have never been nibbled by deer. But I got cocky and planted some more young pawpaws right at the most exposed point where deer would have cover to enter the orchard. With that level of exposure I had some pretty serious munching on those pawpaws. 2 died and Iíve protected the rest with small individual fences. I think that deer arenít looking for pawpaws but that they will eat them in a pinch.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Paw Paw tree's
« on: October 09, 2023, 08:54:25 PM »
I am a licensed propagator of the KSU Trademarked varieties: KSU Atwood, KSU Benson, and KSU Chappell. I have some small trees that were grafted last year that Iíve been selling for $50 each. They look a bit rough here at the end of the season. I would have to check inventory to be certain whatís available now. Some are already going dormant. Iíll have these and other varieties for sale in the Spring as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: NorCal mango ripening
« on: October 08, 2023, 03:19:35 PM »
Very cool!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 04, 2023, 05:37:58 PM »
Ö currently starting some cherimoya from seed.

Jack, since youíre starting cherimoya seeds, when theyíre large enough to graft, youíll be able to find several scion wood varieties of cherimoya, atemoya, and other hybrids here on the forum. If youíve got enough seeds going, you can experiment grafting lots of different annonas to see what works well in your location. Generally, Iíve found grafting cherimoya to be easy, but have had some fail after a season. Extra grafts have been useful.

Thanks Aaron, thats a great idea. I've been a little intimidated with grafting since trying on citrus, but I'll give it another shot. I've got 14 seeds started. What size is large enough for grafting?

The thickness of a pencil is the classic recommendation. But you can definitely do larger of smaller. I increasingly favor cleft grafts.
I havenít tried citrus but think that Iíve heard it is more challenging than other fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 04, 2023, 02:14:33 PM »
Ö currently starting some cherimoya from seed.

Jack, since youíre starting cherimoya seeds, when theyíre large enough to graft, youíll be able to find several scion wood varieties of cherimoya, atemoya, and other hybrids here on the forum. If youíve got enough seeds going, you can experiment grafting lots of different annonas to see what works well in your location. Generally, Iíve found grafting cherimoya to be easy, but have had some fail after a season. Extra grafts have been useful.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 04, 2023, 02:09:37 PM »
aaronn, what varieties of Paw Paw are you growing? You must be warm inland because by paw paws are still sizing up!

Iíve got a bunch of pawpaw varieties. The 3 in the picture, from left to right are a seedling I started like 15 years ago, Allegheny, and Potomac. First year fruiting for those last two. I also have Wabash, Susquehanna, Tallahatchie, Shenandoah, Atwood, Benson, Chappell, Green River Belle, Lehmanís Delight, Mariaís Joy, Prima 1216. Iíve got a multigrafted tree with Overleese, Tropical Treat, 275-56, VE-21, Jerryís Delight, Halvin, Halvinís Sidewinder, plus I added a bunch more varieties to it this year and grafted several individual trees of new varieties. Iíve gone a bit overboard.

Selling any? I dont mind driving to Napa to buy some pawpaw fruits.

Sorry, no, not selling any pawpaw fruits currently. This is my first year getting fruit from several of these, most still not fruiting. I probably will have some to sell in the future.

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Seeds are spoken for!

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Got a ďSapoteĒ from Whole Foods, pretty sure it was a Mamey Sapote. It had these two big, beautiful, sprouting seeds. I canít grow Mamey here. Anyone want these? Happy to ship in the U.S. if you cover postage of $10.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 02, 2023, 08:47:31 PM »
aaronn, what varieties of Paw Paw are you growing? You must be warm inland because by paw paws are still sizing up!

Iíve got a bunch of pawpaw varieties. The 3 in the picture, from left to right are a seedling I started like 15 years ago, Allegheny, and Potomac. First year fruiting for those last two. I also have Wabash, Susquehanna, Tallahatchie, Shenandoah, Atwood, Benson, Chappell, Green River Belle, Lehmanís Delight, Mariaís Joy, Prima 1216. Iíve got a multigrafted tree with Overleese, Tropical Treat, 275-56, VE-21, Jerryís Delight, Halvin, Halvinís Sidewinder, plus I added a bunch more varieties to it this year and grafted several individual trees of new varieties. Iíve gone a bit overboard.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 02, 2023, 12:26:48 AM »
I hope so, I wish everyone could be eating Achachairuís.
It sounds like it will be a success either way for you having gone through the experience.

It took me awhile to figure out growing cherimoya from seed and getting them up to grafting size.
Some things take awhile to dial in where within your own microclimate things thrive.

Plant a paw paw orchard! That is the annona family that will do great with 90 and 100ís and low 20ís .


Well itís hardly a whole pawpaw orchard, but my trees are starting to bear fruits!






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 01, 2023, 07:46:10 PM »
I donít think Annona reticulata is hardy to zone 9, probably needs 10, Iíd guess.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 01, 2023, 05:54:06 PM »
I think it is more cold incompatibility than anything else as Cherimoya is the only Annona that has a chance outside a heated greenhouse that far north and inland. And you'd still need some protection and the right variety to fruit Cherimoya in Napa.
It was a crappy year for Cherimoya in nor cal this year with the cold wet winter.
Aichacharu maybe with a heated greenhouse but will take a lot of dedication and years.
mangosteen you need a greenhouse in south Florida . so you can watch it grow for a season in CA, like growing durian , but it is an experiment that has 1 final outcome.



Iím in Napa and my cherilata died at the graft last winter. I donít think it was an issue of climate. More like something to do with the graft failing or something like that. But Iím not sure about that.
For true mangosteen youíll probably need a greenhouse. All my small Garcinia seedlings died last winter (no purple mangosteen), but Iím trying again with some Achachas.
Good luck!
Aaron

Shame to hear. I was planning on just bringing the mangosteen inside during late fall. Where did you get your cherilata from? I've been having trouble finding them with shipping.

I got it from a friend on this forum. But, like I said, I doubt itís a climate problem. It was doing great through the coldest part of the winter but declined suddenly, prior to flushing in the spring. Iíve had a few annona grafts decline after growing well for a season. Iíve heard there are weird graft compatibility and graft failure issues with annonas so I assume itís something to do with that. Iíll give it another try.

I hear great things about Achacha (Achachairu), a relative of the purple mangosteen. I think itís worth trying to grow here. I have several going and will provide more protection than I have in previous years in an effort to get one old enough to hopefully handle our winters.

I think longans should do well here.

My results with Garcinia seedlings last year confirm your Achacha prediction. But, Joe Real told me a couple small Achacha seedlings survived outside last winter for him. I think heís in Davis? Anyway, Iím only about half a scientist, so Iím happy to pick and choose my data sets and I donít really have much invested in the project so hopefully Iíll be eating Achachas and youíll be eating your words! Lol, just being silly. Iím definitely pushing it and will be willing to admit defeatÖ eventually.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: October 01, 2023, 03:46:24 PM »
Iím in Napa and my cherilata died at the graft last winter. I donít think it was an issue of climate. More like something to do with the graft failing or something like that. But Iím not sure about that.
For true mangosteen youíll probably need a greenhouse. All my small Garcinia seedlings died last winter (no purple mangosteen), but Iím trying again with some Achachas.
Good luck!
Aaron

Shame to hear. I was planning on just bringing the mangosteen inside during late fall. Where did you get your cherilata from? I've been having trouble finding them with shipping.

I got it from a friend on this forum. But, like I said, I doubt itís a climate problem. It was doing great through the coldest part of the winter but declined suddenly, prior to flushing in the spring. Iíve had a few annona grafts decline after growing well for a season. Iíve heard there are weird graft compatibility and graft failure issues with annonas so I assume itís something to do with that. Iíll give it another try.

I hear great things about Achacha (Achachairu), a relative of the purple mangosteen. I think itís worth trying to grow here. I have several going and will provide more protection than I have in previous years in an effort to get one old enough to hopefully handle our winters.

I think longans should do well here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction and Cherilata in Bay Area?
« on: September 29, 2023, 10:19:04 PM »
Iím in Napa and my cherilata died at the graft last winter. I donít think it was an issue of climate. More like something to do with the graft failing or something like that. But Iím not sure about that.
For true mangosteen youíll probably need a greenhouse. All my small Garcinia seedlings died last winter (no purple mangosteen), but Iím trying again with some Achachas.
Good luck!
Aaron

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I wish I could grow lychee or logan in north cal 9b. Are you selling the fruit? Im interested in how it taste.
I know some people in Northern CA 9b are getting fruit from Kohala longans. Iíve been growing some longan seedlings in Napa with virtually no protection and they seem very hardy, but very slow growing. Worth a shot!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Seeds actually a danger to dogs?
« on: July 01, 2023, 03:49:41 PM »
Iíve been hemming and hawing about planting a white sapote or two in my yard. Iíve read the seeds are deadly poisonous and that they could kill a dog chowing down on fallen fruits. My son has a dog and it would be truly a tragedy if this is the case as he might be likely to chomp on ďavailableĒ fruits.

Is this a real concern? Or a limitation to the available information? Does anyone have actual experience with this?

Thanks!

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