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May I start by saying it can get as cold as 15f here where I am though very rare. This year it hasn't got colder than 30 but last year got 19 one night and was in the mid to low 20s for many many successive nights. Willing to try pushing things a bit but it's better when you know something can certainly handle the environment. I have thick not well draining clay like soil on my property in particular. Very wet winter seasons and also summer season sometimes.

What are your recommendations for not only types of fruits but cultivars of those as well? Have some cash to spend if anyone has things available to buy at a fair price. Do know about just fruits and exotics and I have gone there and bought stuff and plan to go back. However I like the idea of trading, bartering, and supporting personal people's efforts if I can. We all should be growing and exchanging various plants and even creating new varieties to pass around. I know many here do just that too. So what you recommend and or got!?!

Some interests(but open to anything hardy to area):

Cold hardy avocado
Nut trees
Berry bushes
Stone fruits
Exotic temperate fruits
Mandarin melon berry tree
Japanese raisin tree
Any hardy passionfruit other than Maypop?
Medicinal or otherwise useful trees, shrubs, herbs
Perennial veggies

I'm not picky really open to anything fairly productive, hardy to area, can be neglected is always good, etc.

Thanks! DG

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Offering orange seeds to FL members
« on: February 09, 2019, 08:35:38 PM »
Have seeds from two different orange trees. My boss has trees on his land that have been growing there since about 120-130 years ago. Not necessarily the same trees but successive generations planted by seeds. His parents planted the originals in the very early 1900s. He's an old guy himself. He claims they come up more or less true from seed and are sweet and good. Said they are Valencia but I can tell there are two distinct types. First time I went to pick some today. Definitely aren't any graft marks on the oldest trees and there really is many from different generations. They are really good that is for sure. Sweet and juice worthy without sweetening. After seeing them in person I do believe him. Kumquats too from seed and are good as well as and a white grapefruit. He says they do take a long time to produce but they always turn out good just the same.

One type is a thinner skinned one and one is thicker skinned. Wanted to offer them since I juiced a ton and want not to toss all the seeds since I can see they really do end up good from seeds. If you pay shipping I'll send some to FL members. Definitely willing to trade for stuff too. I'm particularly looking for cold hardy edible nuts, fruits, perennial veggies and herbs, or annual heirloom veggies or herbs.

Thanks! DG

Want to add to my perennial hardy edible plants collection some edible types of day lily and tiger lily. Want known safe edible types as not all day lilies and tiger lilies are edible and or other plants called lilies.

Thanks! DG

Since most avocado are tropical to at best hardy to nearly 15F I figure I'd post in here. However around 15 is about how cold it can get here but usually not often. I'd love to get ahold of some seeds for cold hardy types to attempt to grow here. Grafted trees are nice but I don't mind the wait or possible variability of fruit.

Thanks! DG

Available species some of which are shippable and others local meetup only. Just inquire via your interest for shippability and price/trade.

Anise Hyssop
True arrowroot plants
Canna edulis plants
Thai pink guava trees
Jewels of opar
Fig trees
African potato mint
Lemon thyme
Cuban oregano
Soap berry trees
Longevity Spinach
Brazilian Spinach
Aztec sweet herb
Loquat trees
Greater galangal gingers
Lesser galangal gingers
Leaf of life
Dragon fruit many types
Callisia fragrans
B. caapi
Several Psychotrias including P. viridis
Illex guayusa
African blue basil

Hit me up! DG

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Heating a greenhouse on a budget??? Ideas?
« on: January 01, 2018, 10:27:39 PM »
Hello all! Just getting settled at my new zone 8 location. Have erected two greenhouses but not of the greatest resistance to the 20s F nights here right now. Many of my prized plants have gotten cold burnt already but most my important ones still live and could perhaps make it through at this point. However the 20s are here to stay for another week or so at night...

Right now I've strung up my best plants with old incandescent Christmas lights and also covered them with sheets even inside the greenhouses. Hopefully that will help get me through the week...

However outside what I've done with my little buget at the moment is there any tricks up your all's sleves? I don't have huge barrels for the water heat retention and radiation at night thing. Probably cost way too much to put a space heater in thin plastic greenhouses and could be even more a fire hazard than what I've currently done...

One greenhouse is 20'10'10' and the other 10'10'10'. Did double plastic them too on the top at least and the long sides on the biggest one.

Any suggestions?

Thanks! DG

Trying to fill my new 3 acre homestead! Really into good citrus for my solid zone 8 location though am looking for many many fruits and edibles good for here. Please check out my thread in the temperate fruits trading section for a big list of my wants and possible trade materials. Some good stuff to consider and also I'm open to mire than my wants list.

Thanks! DG

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ten or so jack fruit seedlings for trade
« on: October 15, 2017, 07:11:21 PM »
Have a single pot with about ten jack fruit seedlings together in the pot. Would love to trade it for some zine 8 hardy plants such as fig types or satsumas etc. Have a thread with a long "I want" and "have for trade" list in the temperate fruits trading section. Please take a look if interested and send me a PM!

Thanks! DG

Looking for hardy to zone 8 citrus and particularly satsumas that do well here I've heard.

Other interests of mine are:

Pawpaw seeds or plants
Che melonberry
Various mulberry
Cold hardy avocado
Berry varieties for this area
Nut trees
Perennial veggies and herbs for this area
Wild forms of edibles such as wild mustards, onions, etc
Rare unusual flavored herbs such as basils etc
Stone fruits
Sweet potato varieties
True African yams of edible types
Types of taro and malanga
Rare pineapple varieties
Olive trees
Autumn olive and Russian olive of good edibilty
Unusual edible FL natives
Edible mushroom cultures
Camillia sinensis
Good hip producing roses
Edible flower types
Fruit trees of any sort for this area

Will get back with a list of stuff I can trade soon! Lots...!


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Your favorite zone 8a plants?
« on: July 25, 2017, 09:43:27 AM »
Hello all! Will be moving to my new homestead in a full zone 8a environment. Wanted to hear suggestions for your favorite edibles for this zone fruits or anything edible or medicinal. Wanting to compile a list of things to procure over time to plant there. I'm into exotic stuff as well as run of the mill fruits like apples. Let me know what y'all think!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / What soils do you all use?
« on: May 28, 2017, 02:16:24 PM »
Hello! I've been custom mixing my own soils from raw materials the best I can. I prefer to do on the cheap if possible but some of the better mixes I've made can get pretty pricy sometimes. I too mix more than I can create from my own composting etc. However if one could find natural materials freely that'd be ideal. An example of what I mean is as follows: 1 part sand or grit, 1 part rotted wood(to the point its all just crumbly spongy like), and 1 part composted hot manures or rabbit etc.

May I ask what a variety of y'all use? I do well but feel whatever I've been making can massively be improved upon. Some mixes work well but do not hold nutes worth a crap or dry to rock hard. Others the pH is all off or stay soggy way too long. Recently I've been buying bulk pre mixed soil but its so mulchy that it robs all nitrogen for some!!!!

I've had this plant many times but it is notoriously hard to keep alive. However I want another go!

Tons of trade media or will pay! Will ask to see pics of the leaves. There's so many misidentified species out there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Small mango lots o' fruits!
« on: March 01, 2017, 01:24:32 PM »
I have a Pickering mango about 4ft tall with maybe 30-50 fruits forming. How many should I leave or should I cut all the flowers off? Any ideas?

Thanks! DG

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Grafting various fruit trees
« on: March 01, 2017, 01:22:46 PM »
I really need to get efficient with grafting. I want to be actively doing this regularly. I've tried a few types of plants including citrus and cactus with never a single take.

What time of year should one attempt grafting in zones 8-10 for these species:
Star fruit
And similar species or general time frames.

Any tips on what grafts work best in general or by species? Good video links?

Thank you all! DG

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Star fruit seeds and cassava cuttings
« on: January 26, 2017, 06:36:59 PM »
Right now due to need for harvest I have tons of star fruit seeds picked from fresh fruit. Anyone interested please pm me! Into trades too.

Also I have a few cassava plants which I can make cuttings from. They are large thick cuttings! Will make at least about a foot long.

Both for sale or trade. $15 per 120 star fruit seeds and/or cassava thick cuttings for $1.50 each plus shipping.

Thanks! DG

Citrus General Discussion / Citrus from seeds
« on: November 15, 2016, 09:02:02 AM »
Been trying to research citrus from seeds and likelihood of true to type or at least quality fruits.

A few online articles suggest against conventional knowledge some citrus will in fact grow true or at very least produce good fruit. Then there's also the argument that if no one planted seeds there would be no creation of new varieties nonetheless. A third argument arises in that even if you grow citrus from seed and it doesn't produce good fruit you still have a nice tree with its taproot ready to graft good varieties onto. Another seemingly logical argument suggests if your seeds came from a store bought fruit it likely came from a grove of nothing but the same type of fruit and unless it came from the margins of the grove even cross pollination between middle grove trees cannot result in bad fruits or far from true fruits because they could have only crossed with themselves which are all good genetics. Too much to consider without growing seeds yourself and waiting.

Can anyone shed some personal experience on this? Not asking for the conventional answer here but for people who may have grown fairly true citrus from seed to share their thoughts and experience.

Thanks! DG

Cold Hardy Citrus / Zone 8 cold hardy citrus(panama city, fl region)
« on: November 08, 2016, 09:17:22 AM »
Before too long I will be moving up to the Panama city area. I love citrus fruits and use stuff such as limes and lemons a lot but love them all. I was wondering if any of y'all would be kind enough to give me a good list of citrus that would grow there in outdoor conditions without much protection. Root stock and edible quality suggestions welcome.

Would trade for anything that's container tolerant at least a few years. All kinds of stuff to trade but I guess FL members I can only trade with. Lots of perennial tropical veggies, herbs, tropical fruits, rare sacred plants to trade. If your looking for anything just ask I may have!


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Fresh guarana seeds for trade
« on: October 29, 2016, 05:24:45 PM »
I have fresh harvested guarana seeds grown right here in the USA. I'm looking for a few things I've wanted for a long time. I guess they have to come from members within my state. I'm open to other rare plants that fruit or are edible, medicinal, or useful and are hardy from zone 8-10.

Glycosmis pentaphylla
Flying dragon orange
Kaffir lime
Small grafted lemon for containers
Pineapple guava
Vanilla orchid
Dwarf banana types no more than 6-7 ft
Rare not common types of papaya non GMO
Dragon fruit types
Rare pineapple types
Rare edible/medicinal gingers black tumeric etc
Open to other things even entheos just make offers
Want the top of the list most

Want to trade 3-4 people maybe a pack of five seeds each or so. Not easy seeds to come by totally fresh harvested within days!  Would love small live plants but am open to seeds. Sorry can only accept a few offers please don't be sad if I don't pick yours!

Inquiries via pm!


Hello all! I have an abundance of stuff I'd like to get to new homes!

Tons of fresh miracle fruit seeds at 10 for $4.50

Chaya cuttings 5 starter sticks at $4

Cassava 5 starter sticks at $4

Maypop vines $2 each with a good piece of root

Passiflora edulis seeds 50 at $2

Sweet potato cuttings 5 at $2.50

Can accept money via PayPal. Please send as a gift. Prices as stated plus whatever the shipping comes to for the items. Hit me up via pm!

Thanks! DG

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Please ID this tropical fruit!
« on: June 13, 2016, 12:34:15 PM »
I ask of you fruit gurus what in fact is this fruit???

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Moving to zone 8b
« on: May 31, 2016, 04:30:39 PM »
Hello all! In a few short months I will be moving to zone 8b. The average low temps are projected at 15-20F in the winter months. I'm super excited to start a new food forest asap but its sad leaving my zone 9b-10 food forest that's 4 years into establishment. Wasn't aware I was gonna have to move but it is what it is as they say. Saying goodbye to my easy tropical growing...

The reason for the thread is to get ideas of what all I can grow. I want to grow citrus of sorts but not anything I'll have to protect with massive effort. I also want to grow avocado, banana, and stuff on the exotic side. I heard there are possibly cold hardy avocado that may survive those temps. Is that at all true? I know there are some bananas for sure but are there any tolerant enough not to protect at all? I would also like multiple varieties of banana too if possible. I know pineapple guava should be hardy enough but what other exotics might do well? Jujube?

Any help would be awesome! I surely am gonna do all the convectional stuff. Blueberries, apples, etc.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / A few Tejecote seeds to trade
« on: December 20, 2015, 08:33:58 AM »
I have a few Tejecote seeds to trade. Its a small fruit in the hawthorn family. Grainy like texture but lightly sweet and smells like grape soda. Grainy texture due to high pectin content which is a good quality really. Supposedly one of the more useful hawthorns. Have only about 15 seeds to trade.

Looking for any random smaller tree or shrub that produces good fruits here in zone 9-10. Please make an offer if your interested. Also have star fruit seeds from my own seed grown tree. This tree actually produces big juicy fruits albeit a non grafted tree.

Thanks! DG

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Cecropia obtusifolia
« on: November 08, 2015, 08:44:06 AM »
Anyone have seeds available for this species? Was at a large botanical garden garden recently and this tree is magnificent looking for a tropical accent and apparently has sweet edible fruits. Looking to add this here species to my growing food forest!


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / looking for some seeds
« on: October 28, 2015, 07:01:32 AM »
Would love some kaffir lime and finger lime seeds/plants of good lineage. Tried messaging people whom have made offers to no avail. Maybe its because I'm new here??? However I've traded with several of you already and bought seeds from several of you.

Can someone I've exchanged with chime in here to show my legitimacy? Maybe that'll help??? Not sure how you build reputation here. I've got tons of rare plants to exchange people and am only looking to diversify my garden more!

Thanks! DG

I really really love opuntia cactus pears! Would like to facilitate some trades to get a few different good fruiting cultivars. Would love a red, green, or orange types or all for that matter.


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