Annona spinescens seedling

[palologrower]

$50 each shipped  Will post up pics later today.

[SanDiegoCherimoya]

I have a few. Really struggling to regrow after dormancy here in SoCal. The description doesn't match my experience.

[Jaboticaba45]

I had a grafted one on a montana...but it randomly died for no reason lol

[Bush2Beach]

Did the rootstock live? Why don’t you think it’s long term incompatibility?

I had a grafted one on a montana...but it randomly died for no reason lol

[palologrower]

I have a few. Really struggling to regrow after dormancy here in SoCal. The description doesn't match my experience.

i haven't had issues with mine. so far they've kept their leaves the whole time.  of course, i'm in hawaii....

[victory66]

How many members have had success with seedlings of some of these wild type annonas I wonder? Have any of these even fruited in Hawaii's zone 12? Grafted on A. Montana or cherimoya stock recommended?

[Jaboticaba45]

Did the rootstock live? Why don’t you think it’s long term incompatibility?

I had a grafted one on a montana...but it randomly died for no reason lol

Rootstock died back too, it wasn't grafted for a long time,
so I think it could potentially work...may have been climate issues when it died. I remember it was really hot that time.

[K-Rimes]

How many members have had success with seedlings of some of these wild type annonas I wonder? Have any of these even fruited in Hawaii's zone 12? Grafted on A. Montana or cherimoya stock recommended?

Folks are fruiting spinescens in FL.

[victory66]

Interesting, thanks.

[palologrower]

How many members have had success with seedlings of some of these wild type annonas I wonder? Have any of these even fruited in Hawaii's zone 12? Grafted on A. Montana or cherimoya stock recommended?

i don't know of anyone in hawaii...yet.  maybe joe h. eventually and a few others.

[palologrower]

How many members have had success with seedlings of some of these wild type annonas I wonder? Have any of these even fruited in Hawaii's zone 12? Grafted on A. Montana or cherimoya stock recommended?

Folks are fruiting spinescens in FL.

yeah, you're right, i've seen it fruited and scions i think were sold awhile back.

[SDPirate]

Someone here sold me Spinescens seeds not too long ago and I think they were from fruit in Florida.  They have not yet popped up yet I think it has been 7 months already maybe more.  I just saw someone finally seeing them germinate after about 18 months...this is a slow one to get started.

[victory66]

I have a few. Really struggling to regrow after dormancy here in SoCal. The description doesn't match my experience.

i haven't had issues with mine. so far they've kept their leaves the whole time.  of course, i'm in hawaii....

How long till your seeds sprouted that you purchased?

[palologrower]

Added photos in original post

[K-Rimes]

Someone here sold me Spinescens seeds not too long ago and I think they were from fruit in Florida.  They have not yet popped up yet I think it has been 7 months already maybe more.  I just saw someone finally seeing them germinate after about 18 months...this is a slow one to get started.

Same batch for me and no action here. Ilama was lightning fast in comparison. I did also soak mine in GA3. I also have coriacea and dioica and only a single one out of 20 is showing action after being planted approx Jan 1st, 24. All ga3'd

[Bush2Beach]

I wonder when the first batch of seeds came in and if they hand pollinate.
Collecting pollen at night and hand pollinating the next morning seems to be the main issue with getting alot flowering Annona's to fruit.
Soncoya for sure. I've had A. Globiflora flowering for 10 years and could never figure out how to hand pollinate those little flowers, same with a friends grafted on soursop in Hawaii.

My Spinescens from Joe is trucking along in Hawaii and maybe flower next year.
Also have a Salzmanii , but they are native to Forested Sand Dune's Restinga environment , so I think it would rip in West Palm Beach Sugar sand Mango Land or another Sandy So. FL climate. It doesn't love chunky cinder.

How many members have had success with seedlings of some of these wild type annonas I wonder? Have any of these even fruited in Hawaii's zone 12? Grafted on A. Montana or cherimoya stock recommended?

Folks are fruiting spinescens in FL.

[SanDiegoCherimoya]

I can see that. Spinescens is marketed as some African type anonna that's super drought tolerant. It's thriving in Hawaii but not San Diego. Must be a misprint...

I have a few. Really struggling to regrow after dormancy here in SoCal. The description doesn't match my experience.

i haven't had issues with mine. so far they've kept their leaves the whole time.  of course, i'm in hawaii....

[SanDiegoCherimoya]

January is probably too early for seeds to pop. I germinated mine from seed.

Someone here sold me Spinescens seeds not too long ago and I think they were from fruit in Florida.  They have not yet popped up yet I think it has been 7 months already maybe more.  I just saw someone finally seeing them germinate after about 18 months...this is a slow one to get started.

Same batch for me and no action here. Ilama was lightning fast in comparison. I did also soak mine in GA3. I also have coriacea and dioica and only a single one out of 20 is showing action after being planted approx Jan 1st, 24. All ga3'd

[K-Rimes]

January is probably too early for seeds to pop. I germinated mine from seed.

Someone here sold me Spinescens seeds not too long ago and I think they were from fruit in Florida.  They have not yet popped up yet I think it has been 7 months already maybe more.  I just saw someone finally seeing them germinate after about 18 months...this is a slow one to get started.

Same batch for me and no action here. Ilama was lightning fast in comparison. I did also soak mine in GA3. I also have coriacea and dioica and only a single one out of 20 is showing action after being planted approx Jan 1st, 24. All ga3'd

Grow tent the whole time under LED lights with temps no lower than 70f

[mikesid]

I have some flowers on both my seedlings now. Another forum member fruited it last year.

[SanDiegoCherimoya]

Sounds like you tried you're best. I have one if you want it.

January is probably too early for seeds to pop. I germinated mine from seed.

Someone here sold me Spinescens seeds not too long ago and I think they were from fruit in Florida.  They have not yet popped up yet I think it has been 7 months already maybe more.  I just saw someone finally seeing them germinate after about 18 months...this is a slow one to get started.

Same batch for me and no action here. Ilama was lightning fast in comparison. I did also soak mine in GA3. I also have coriacea and dioica and only a single one out of 20 is showing action after being planted approx Jan 1st, 24. All ga3'd

Grow tent the whole time under LED lights with temps no lower than 70f

[SouthBayHapaJoe]

From my experience, Annona spinescens germinate relatively fast. Usually less than 2 months. Spinescens is definitely NOT drought tolerant. It comes from the Brazilian Atlantic Rainforest. It has a sweet pumpkin-like filling with lots and lots of seeds. It does have some cold tolerance as they have survived the winters in Socal 9b easily at my house and I know of a bigger one in East LA 9b. Annona Salzmannii not so much in cold tolerance and I've killed a few. THere is a fruiting one in Fort Meyer, so it is possible.

[SanDiegoCherimoya]

Low land dry forest? Yeah that's what they say about it.

From my experience, Annona spinescens germinate relatively fast. Usually less than 2 months. Spinescens is definitely NOT drought tolerant. It comes from the Brazilian Atlantic Rainforest. It has a sweet pumpkin-like filling with lots and lots of seeds. It does have some cold tolerance as they have survived the winters in Socal 9b easily at my house and I know of a bigger one in East LA 9b. Annona Salzmannii not so much in cold tolerance and I've killed a few. THere is a fruiting one in Fort Meyer, so it is possible.

[palologrower]

Talk about thread jack! Ha ha ha.  J/k.  Anyway, very interesting to hear about the status of Annona spinescens in the mainland. 

On a side note, my seeds were acquired from a source in Thailand. In the case of the Thai collector, he grew his tree out as much as he could and grafted on A. reticulata.  He had pics of a very robust tree.

[Bush2Beach]

I have mine planted in chunky cinder that dries out especially fast and survives summer drought without irrigation going on 3 years now.
Frequent wind also makes it dry out faster. Most rainforest species I have planted at this location die.

From my experience, Annona spinescens germinate relatively fast. Usually less than 2 months. Spinescens is definitely NOT drought tolerant. It comes from the Brazilian Atlantic Rainforest. It has a sweet pumpkin-like filling with lots and lots of seeds. It does have some cold tolerance as they have survived the winters in Socal 9b easily at my house and I know of a bigger one in East LA 9b. Annona Salzmannii not so much in cold tolerance and I've killed a few. THere is a fruiting one in Fort Meyer, so it is possible.