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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: May 09, 2021, 02:13:37 PM »
Sold the Ruger air rifle and the Crossman 22 to coworker today. In the urban environment air rifle not very practical. To sightly for the front yard.  Crosman pump .22 air pistol the velocity is too low  460 fps. Can't find any pellets lighter than 14.2 grains. The Crosman Pump .117 air pistol with 10.2 grain pellet has a velocity of 600 fps and is a lethal tickle gun. Six confirmed tickles this weekend. The 22 is like throwing a beer bottle at a drunk. It just makes them stagger.Lol
Five gallon bucket makes things very stealthy

They work best in the shade, and you have to secure the lid, otherwise they will get out.

Bait upside down for a few days, then flip, then switch spots so they don't wise up.

Thanks it's in the mail and on the way. Until then I'm following another Forum members suggestion from another thread

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best tickle gun money can buy?
« on: May 08, 2021, 11:42:39 AM »
The Crosman air pistol is working well for me but it's single shot. So I have two that I keep in a 5 gallon bucket in the yard when I'm working. They are strictly for tickling I would never harm one of God's creations Honest John :)

I may purchase one of these just because I like to play with colorful lights. You can get 8 tickles before you have to recharge with air.

UPDATE 4 . . .

Mostly for bovine who's growing in pots, too:

My 'Ice Cream' as of this writing is still holding onto two fruit on two separate infloresences and they are, each fruit, about 3-inches long and looking very healthy.

The other two, 'Irwin' and 'Beverly', did not try to reflower and never did set any fruit this year.

All three mangoes remain in their 7 gallon pots.


Paul M.
That is very good news.
Hold baby hold. I am rooting for your success.
I am very impressed with the precociousness and fruit set of this variety.
 My fruit are poquito

I don't care for the name ice cream  I call mine Trini

Has anyone had success with this product. Is this squirrel type specific or does it pretty much work for all types of squirrels.
I'm having a little trouble with bait robbers stealing my whole unsalted peanuts I have ordered some shoe glue 2 glue to cardboard but this product looks like it would eliminate the problem with bait robbers

If you have a little green space + can grow fruiting plants in pots, maybe a mango, like Pickering or Dwarf Hawaiian in a pot with the bottom cut out.

That's a great idea just grow them in pots with the bottom cut out. Thier from New York and they won't know the difference

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: May 01, 2021, 10:01:33 AM »
The Ruger Air Hawk is more powerful than I thought it went through concrete board my fence and halfway through my neighbors vinyl fence. I had to reinforce Target with a piece of plywood. After getting the elevation and windage set I was able to consistently shoot a group within the size of a bottle cap at 60 ft. Which after surveying my property would be the longest shot that I would ever take in an urban environment. So I don't think there's much need to attach the scope. As I was adjusting the windage. Off the roof and into Barbados cherry bush was the perpetrator who feasted on a Zill white guava in the morning. The perpetrator returned for a late-afternoon snack. All I will say is the Crosman air pistol is quite effective at close range. My wife was able to harvest that guava he was headed for :)

Ruger Air Hawk at 60 ft open sites in a stand braced position

Crosman air pistol.
 The three shot group in the center is at 10 ft. Can do that consistently. At 15ft as you can see accuracy declines.

John 51 maybe you should use a different tactic first give them a few mangoes and ask them to review it.Then give them maybe a different variety and ask them to review it and once you got them in addicted to mangoes offer them a small 3 gallon tree that fell off the back of a truck. Then you can say. You know growing that in a pot it will never produce more than one or two mangoes but if you put it in the ground which I can assist you in doing so you may have a really nice crop. It's called greasing the wheels you have to remember their big city

This is purely anecdotal, but I went by Tropical Acres Farms last Sunday, and they were not open.  No, I didn't call.  I just wanted to see the 100-year-old monster mango trees and all the baby trees that Alex has planted. You can see most of the grove from Dreher Park (but a sturdy chainlink fence protects the trees!).
I could see how those very large Edward trees would be like a cathedral to a Nature Boy like you John51

I went back on Truly Tropical Chris's website the mango place and saw where in 2020 she started picking mangoes on April 28th. I also see where Dr. Campbell posted that because of the cooler weather slowing down the metabolic rate of the mango trees. He will not be selling mangoes until mid May.
I am anxious to buy some serious poundage of mangoes from South Floridians but I do not want to come too early before they have developed acceptable close to Peak flavor. :)
Any observations or input

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop: to Trim or Not to Trim
« on: April 28, 2021, 06:21:52 PM »
I think wind chill only matters for warm blooded animals, unless you have so much shelter and a nearby heat source you are actually holding a bubble of warmer-than-ambient air around your plants.  I suspect it is the mechanical action of the wind yanking things around that harms them.
If that were true, we would see defoliation during summer winds, yet we don't.

It has been rather windy lately

I don't know would the wind chill take it to the low temperature sooner which would make it be at that temperature for a longer duration.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop: to Trim or Not to Trim
« on: April 28, 2021, 08:30:33 AM »
Can we get an update on your Soursop

I have fully switch over to drinking black coffee no sugar through the work week thanks to you and EddieF :)

 All taken today except persimmon. Would of posted to this thread sooner but I have been working a lot of hours. Of course I am stoked up about my mangoes but I am also very excited about my Zill white guava

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's eating my Suriname Cherries?
« on: April 27, 2021, 06:56:01 PM »
Thanks for the replies. I did catch a cardinal eating one last year, and recently saw a mockingbird eating a natal plum in the neighborhood. So I think you're right, FV Fruit Freak and Dangermouse01. Plus, I can stomach eating off a fruit a bird bit out of as opposed to a rat😜 I can't imagine these would ship well--they ripen so fast. If it's any consolation, FV Fruit Freak, last year I got very little fruit set. This year has been fantastic--it just fruited and is flowering again while fruit are ripening.

I would say most likely it's the Mockingbird but at least they sing for their food

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's eating my Suriname Cherries?
« on: April 27, 2021, 06:34:02 PM »
I'll take roof rats for a hundred Alex

They love Barbados cherries along with their friends the squirrels

Both are safe on tender tissue.  As an example when I first got Physan I mis-read the instructions and applied like 10X too much.  I blasted the trees with well water after realizing my screw up.  Didn't hurt them.

2 tsp/gallon is all you need and I went something like 2 oz/gal.  Forgot the exact amount as it was years ago.
After studying Keyplex bloom Pro Bloom and Dyna Gro bloom I decided to go with Dyna-Gro Bloom it has good reviews and can be shipped to my house in a 1 quart container for $20 plus shipping through Amazon

Thanks for helping me fine-tune my Mini groove

Someone did comment that the middle number is a little high and the plant won't use it but other than that it's pretty much got rave reviews,

There's another product called cal-mag that they talked about that I've research yet. It'll be just a once-a-year foliar feeding so I'm not too worried about overdoing it.

Someone mentioned that it helps prevent fruit split

I read this is used on Citrus and I'm curious if anyone thanks this would be beneficial for mangoes.
I am always trying to expand my knowledge base and would appreciate any recommendations on nutritional foliar spray

I've contacted the local Florida rep and we'll see if I can acquire small quantities

Thanks! Mark and Har for all the information. As a backyard grower it's not easy to find smaller quantities of these premium fungicides. With these products a little goes a long ways. I believe in just in time inventory and do want large qualities. I have found an alternative to Abound which is called Heritage CS Syngenta. It can be purchased in a smaller quantity. I have found by Phyton35 in a quantity that I can justify buying. And since I will be rotating these with other products it does not make sense to have large quantities just for a few problematic trees


The benefits that accrue to users are numerous and meaningful:

• Works inside and out: Gets active ingredients into the plant where disease can be stopped most effectively

• Long residual effectiveness: Provides disease-fighting efficacy with less frequent spraying

• Effective against many pathogens: In many species, including fruits, vegetables & herbs

• No visible residue: Fights disease without residue

• Warning label: Not a “Danger” label, meaning fewer use restrictions in many locations

• Cost effective in use: Pricing is designed for disease prevention rotations, in addition to curative applications

• Gentle on plants: Continues the Phyton legacy of safety on tender plant tissue and most plants in bloom


From what I read and what I realized this type of fungicide should be used very sparingly in rotation with others. From the knowledge I've gained so far I think I would use something like this in the springtime as a Curative then switch to Phyton 35 during the rainy.
The search engine on this form was a starting point but it's kind of like reading alphabet soup.Lol

Heritage SC
Comes in a smaller quantity and more reasonably priced then abound. It's one of the few Alternatives that list fruit and nut trees Vines vegetables and Herb plants on the label. I am not making any recommendations just sharing my observations so far
It has about the same mixing ratio as Plant Doctor organocide 2 teaspoons per gallon of water

TABLE 23: Specific Use Directions for Stone Fruit
Crop Target Diseases
Use Rate
fl oz
per acre
(lb ai/A)
Use Rate
fl oz
1,000 sq ft Application Instructions
Stone Fruit
Cherry, sweet
Cherry, tart
Alternaria spot and
fruit rot
(Alternaria alternata)
 C. gloeosporioides)
Leaf rust
Powdery mildew
Shot hole
0.14-0.36 Follow the resistance management guidelines in the Resistance
Management section. Do not
apply more than two sequential
applications of Heritage SC or
other Group 11 fungicides before
alternation with a fungicide that
is not in Group 11.

For peaches only, 5-8 fl oz of
Heritage SC may be used for scab

Specific Use Restrictions:
• Do not apply more than 1.5 lb ai/A per year of az

Very informative  article

I would like to increase the biodiversity of the microorganisms in my soil with wood chips mulch. I don't really need it for moisture retention or nutrients but I'm concerned it will increase the chance of anthracnose. I've read where it's advised to pick up leaves twigs and Fallen fruit to reduce levels of anthracnose so logic would tell me that if you are using mulch wood chips and sawdust that you are aggravating the situation. Please tell me the flaws in my logic. :)

I have immersed myself of late into the issue of anthracnose and fungicides. One of the issues with fungicide use and overuse is its effect on soil microbes and the environment. Since I only have 3 problematic anthracnose prone trees I was contemplating on ways to mitigate the effects of using fungicide on the soil microbes. This would not be practical for someone treating mini trees but I remembered an idea that someone had on another thread about another subject of using tarps under the trees. Does it sound practical and reasonable to lay tarps under a tree that is being treated with a foliar fungicide. That idea being that the fungicide with drip on the tarp and after letting it dry for a day or two then remove to different location to be pressure-washed. I know during the rainy season timing and runoff would be an issue. Am I overanalyzing this?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: April 23, 2021, 08:01:44 PM »

Since I had the day off and actually had access to a laptop instead of a small cellular phone I decided to study fungicides.Here are some of the active ingredients and some of the most popular brands
Azoxystrobin. Chlorothalonil  Copper Sulfate Pentahydrate

I started by making a list of fungicides for anthracnose in stone fruit. I came up with a list of Phyron35.  Abound
Amistad . Brovo. Daconil

After studying the active ingredients and how they work. I came to the conclusion that I like Abound but it's a little expensive. Now there are generic alternatives that have the same active ingredient Azoxystrobin 22.9 but don't list all the fruit trees that abound does on their labels as Abound. Abound  seems to list anthracnose more often and list mangoes soursop and guava  Phyton35 only list things like dogwood Bougainvillea Palm strawberries blackberries and tomatoes does not mention avocado Citrus or mango. Could just be poor marketing

Azoxystrobin is a systemic fungicide used for the protection of plants and crops from harmful fungal diseases. Azoxystrobin is part of a class of chemicals known as ί-methoxyacrylates, which are derived from the naturally-occurring compounds and are used mostly in agricultural settings. At this time, Azoxystrobin is the only fungicide with the ability to offer protection against the four major types of plant fungi.

Azoxystrobin was first discovered in the midst of research being conducted on fungal mushrooms commonly found in the forests of Europe. These small mushrooms fascinated scientists due to their strong ability to defend themselves.

It was found that the defense mechanism of the mushrooms were based on the secretion of two substances, strobilurin A and oudemansin A. These substances gave the fungi the ability to keep their competitors at bay and kill them when in range. Observations of this mechanism led to research that resulted in the development of Azoxystrobin fungicide

This is my first day of really studying this but I do see they say that FRAC group 11 fungicides have a risk of resistance developing and should be tank mixed with a low-risk protective but I do not know if that's true for Abound. Any assistance or input would be extremely appreciate it.  :)

Azoxystrobin 22.9

A-Zox 25SC fungicide offers optimal disease control to help turfgrass, corn, potato, soybean and vegetable growers, among others, to maximize return on investment. It is broad-spectrum and provides complete plant protection with its xylem-mobile systemic activity

Azoxystrobin and soil interactions
I can only find two articles on this subject

aerobic and anaerobic soil metabolism studies in the laboratory, a half-life of 72 to 164 days was obtained, indicating a moderate degree of persistence. However, in field studies, azoxystrobin is degraded quite rapidly in soils with a half-life of 1 to 5 weeks. Both photodegradation and, to a lesser degree, microbial metabolism are involved in its dissipation since the compound is relatively stable to hydrolysis. The half-life for photolysis in soils is in the range of 11 to 15 days depending on nature of the soil, azoxystrobin has a low to moderate potential for mobility in soil, but little movement down the soil profile was seen in field studies

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango bloom again!
« on: April 23, 2021, 01:44:10 PM »
I have today off and I just took a look and I have to add PPK fruit punch and Sugarloaf to the rebloom list that contains DOD Julie and  Dwarf Hawaiian. I have read where you folks discussed this as a tactic to get some varieties to have a late crop. I would not have thought of using this tactic on these particular somewhat early varieties but it seems to be working out that way

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: April 23, 2021, 12:49:57 PM »
I have kind of given up on the live trap for now until I can think of or ask of another bait that the Blue Jays will not Steal. I was thinking of taking a needle and thread and going through three or four peanuts then tying them to the bottom of the Trap or trying maybe hole shelled pecans. Blue Jays don't have any redeeming qualities with their bully boy behavior and destroying other eggs 2 trick other varieties of birds to sit and hatch their eggs. It would be bad bird Karma to harm one and since I am a bird photographer I chose to turn him loose. We actually sit at our kitchen table and observe Blue Jays doing that to the Mockingbirds in our Bougainvillea bush.

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