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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best tickle gun money can buy?
« on: May 08, 2021, 11:42:39 AM »
The Crosman air pistol is working well for me but it's single shot. So I have two that I keep in a 5 gallon bucket in the yard when I'm working. They are strictly for tickling I would never harm one of God's creations Honest John :)

I may purchase one of these just because I like to play with colorful lights. You can get 8 tickles before you have to recharge with air.

Has anyone had success with this product. Is this squirrel type specific or does it pretty much work for all types of squirrels.
I'm having a little trouble with bait robbers stealing my whole unsalted peanuts I have ordered some shoe glue 2 glue to cardboard but this product looks like it would eliminate the problem with bait robbers

I went back on Truly Tropical Chris's website the mango place and saw where in 2020 she started picking mangoes on April 28th. I also see where Dr. Campbell posted that because of the cooler weather slowing down the metabolic rate of the mango trees. He will not be selling mangoes until mid May.
I am anxious to buy some serious poundage of mangoes from South Floridians but I do not want to come too early before they have developed acceptable close to Peak flavor. :)
Any observations or input

I read this is used on Citrus and I'm curious if anyone thanks this would be beneficial for mangoes.
I am always trying to expand my knowledge base and would appreciate any recommendations on nutritional foliar spray

I've contacted the local Florida rep and we'll see if I can acquire small quantities

I would like to increase the biodiversity of the microorganisms in my soil with wood chips mulch. I don't really need it for moisture retention or nutrients but I'm concerned it will increase the chance of anthracnose. I've read where it's advised to pick up leaves twigs and Fallen fruit to reduce levels of anthracnose so logic would tell me that if you are using mulch wood chips and sawdust that you are aggravating the situation. Please tell me the flaws in my logic. :)

I have immersed myself of late into the issue of anthracnose and fungicides. One of the issues with fungicide use and overuse is its effect on soil microbes and the environment. Since I only have 3 problematic anthracnose prone trees I was contemplating on ways to mitigate the effects of using fungicide on the soil microbes. This would not be practical for someone treating mini trees but I remembered an idea that someone had on another thread about another subject of using tarps under the trees. Does it sound practical and reasonable to lay tarps under a tree that is being treated with a foliar fungicide. That idea being that the fungicide with drip on the tarp and after letting it dry for a day or two then remove to different location to be pressure-washed. I know during the rainy season timing and runoff would be an issue. Am I overanalyzing this?

Since I had the day off and actually had access to a laptop instead of a small cellular phone I decided to study fungicides.Here are some of the active ingredients and some of the most popular brands
Azoxystrobin. Chlorothalonil  Copper Sulfate Pentahydrate

I started by making a list of fungicides for anthracnose in stone fruit. I came up with a list of Phyron35.  Abound
Amistad . Brovo. Daconil

After studying the active ingredients and how they work. I came to the conclusion that I like Abound but it's a little expensive. Now there are generic alternatives that have the same active ingredient Azoxystrobin 22.9 but don't list all the fruit trees that abound does on their labels as Abound. Abound  seems to list anthracnose more often and list mangoes soursop and guava  Phyton35 only list things like dogwood Bougainvillea Palm strawberries blackberries and tomatoes does not mention avocado Citrus or mango. Could just be poor marketing

Azoxystrobin is a systemic fungicide used for the protection of plants and crops from harmful fungal diseases. Azoxystrobin is part of a class of chemicals known as ß-methoxyacrylates, which are derived from the naturally-occurring compounds and are used mostly in agricultural settings. At this time, Azoxystrobin is the only fungicide with the ability to offer protection against the four major types of plant fungi.

Azoxystrobin was first discovered in the midst of research being conducted on fungal mushrooms commonly found in the forests of Europe. These small mushrooms fascinated scientists due to their strong ability to defend themselves.

It was found that the defense mechanism of the mushrooms were based on the secretion of two substances, strobilurin A and oudemansin A. These substances gave the fungi the ability to keep their competitors at bay and kill them when in range. Observations of this mechanism led to research that resulted in the development of Azoxystrobin fungicide

This is my first day of really studying this but I do see they say that FRAC group 11 fungicides have a risk of resistance developing and should be tank mixed with a low-risk protective but I do not know if that's true for Abound. Any assistance or input would be extremely appreciate it.  :)

Azoxystrobin 22.9

A-Zox 25SC fungicide offers optimal disease control to help turfgrass, corn, potato, soybean and vegetable growers, among others, to maximize return on investment. It is broad-spectrum and provides complete plant protection with its xylem-mobile systemic activity

Azoxystrobin and soil interactions
I can only find two articles on this subject

aerobic and anaerobic soil metabolism studies in the laboratory, a half-life of 72 to 164 days was obtained, indicating a moderate degree of persistence. However, in field studies, azoxystrobin is degraded quite rapidly in soils with a half-life of 1 to 5 weeks. Both photodegradation and, to a lesser degree, microbial metabolism are involved in its dissipation since the compound is relatively stable to hydrolysis. The half-life for photolysis in soils is in the range of 11 to 15 days depending on nature of the soil, azoxystrobin has a low to moderate potential for mobility in soil, but little movement down the soil profile was seen in field studies

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango bloom again!
« on: April 22, 2021, 05:33:05 AM »
Starting from the beginning of March until a couple of weeks ago I slowly and methodically removed little mangoes when they got eraser sized or about the size of the end of your index finger. The Paniacles all dried and fell off. After two days of heavy rain Monday and Tuesday guess what. Dot  Julie iDwarf Hawaiian are flowering again. The trees that I pruned to one fruit per paniacle then the trees then reduce the crop from there are not flowering. What am I to think. It was quite time-consuming to prune all those little mangoes  Maybe I should have just probably let the tree take care of itself. I couldn't imagine someone with three or four hundred trees taking the time to do that. Is anyone else's trees flowering at this late date?

I only have a few anthracnose problematic trees. After using the search engine to data-mine the Forum for systemic fungicides mentioned here. I like the fact that. Phyton  35 is systemic and protective. In my particular area it's been a wet spring. I'm using Plant Doctor organocide it seems like I may be stimming the tide but I don't seem to be gaining ground on anthracnose. My original plan was to use sulfur during Bloom then switch to systemic as a Curative then switch to Copper as a protective. I'm going to stick with the program for this season but if things don't work out. I may have to get off a dollar and get something that is more commercial for next season.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I always trying to explore the boundaries of possibilities and when you think that you're doing something novel and new. Chances are someone else has already tried.

So with that being said. If you put a vigorous mango variety in a large pot with the bottom cut out. Place it in the ground with the roots confined. Let it carry fruit from the get-go. Would that stunt it? And possibly delay it from growing like a rocket ship :)

This is my dilemma I have a lemon zest grafted onto a known dwarf rootstock. It dwarfs some varieties but not others no one really knows which or  kept track of which. The bearer of always good news informed me that there is no known rootstock that will dwarf lemon zest. I figured it wouldn't hurt since I don't have any more room for a large vigorous tree. I could leave it in the pot and just use it for budwood to graft onto one  of my vigorous most tree's.Most likely Ppk. Since growing it in a pot long term sounds like an exercise in futility. I think the best option would be to plant in the ground and try to restrain it. Worst case scenario i guess I could stumpify it every few years. This would be a 1 gallon sapling tree.
 Any ideas or thoughts

Since they say that lemon zest flavor is intensified by dry conditions. Since no one can control the weather in South Florida or pretty much anything else.Lol
Would the probabilities of growing a few Sublime Lemon Zest increase with growing it in a container and controlling the moisture intake.

Food for thought it's Friday and I have the day off
So far Java hasn't been able to get me motivated to go out and spray that Insidious beast called anthracnose.

 She behaves very much like anthracnose

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Container mango tree question
« on: April 11, 2021, 05:02:05 PM »
What is the most ready to be picked mangoes you've seen in a 15 gallon container? Same question for a 30 gallon container? What I'm trying to ascertain is what number of average sized mangoes can be reasonably and consistently produced in a container. I want to give my daughter some realistic expectations of what can be achieved.
So far I've seen many photos of flowering mangoes and tiny mangoes in containers but yet to see some with full-sized mangoes.

Should I allow my sweet tart to do its own thing or should I thin it to a certain number of fruit to get quality size.

Put on a pot of java order a pizza or pop some popcorn excellent video :)

Paul did a wonderful job producing this video in the noisy neighborhood we call South Florida. Alex did a excellent job of showcasing some of the varieties that are grown at Tropical Acre Farms
Hopefully they will produce more videos I would love to see St. Maui. What mango varieties would you like for Alex to showcase?
I was tickled to see a Carla mango tree.The variety I can't get no one other than John51 to discuss. I took Delight in hearing that Alex  has one at his own Hacienda :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is anyone's Persimmon in bloom
« on: April 03, 2021, 02:03:07 PM »
This is the first year that my fuyu persimmon has bloomed. Sigh of relief was getting worried

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Over nitrogen stimulated mango trees
« on: March 26, 2021, 11:22:45 AM »
If you are pushing your young mango trees with Go-Go juice. After three or four years in the ground once they get to the size that you want them to be. At the end of that summer you stop all fertilization. How many seasons will it take for them to calm down? Even if you cut a major branch does that mean it will slams the brakes on or could you still lose a season or two because of over-stimulated growth?
I would like to know this for future reference so I know when to start weaning them off the juice.
Yes fliptop I know they grow like weeds but I prefer they grow like weeds on fertilizer LOL :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best Squirrel Dog
« on: March 23, 2021, 03:15:18 PM »
I believe with foresight you plant your tree's strategically so that tree cannot launch off of roof fences and other trees. A squirrel dog can be a very effective deterrent. My rat terrier passed on to Canine Glory a few years ago. He had a very strong Predator Drive obsessed with lizards rats and squirrels. What breed would you recommend for his replacement? What breed do you have?

I  actually learned quite a bit from not enough durian discussion. Has there been enough mangosteen discussion? Could Dorothy in Kansas feasibly grow mangosteen in a container and have it fruit in her Greenhouse. If so which variety or type would be best suited for her to grow.

I think so. :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / 9b lychee bloom
« on: March 19, 2021, 07:41:53 PM »
Does anyone else in 9B have lychee bloom. South Florida had there's mini mini weeks ago they should have fruit set by now. We can benefit from there earlier crop and enjoy our later crop

Is or could Durian be grown in Puerto Rico and what other Caribbean islands might be suited for that. What areas of the world are the General Public familiar with this fruit. Is it grown commercially for export or mostly consumed locally. Is the promotion of exotic fruit travel designations feasible. Yes there should be an Ultra tropical section in this form. Yes talkin of mangoes does get redundant for us folks in Central and South Florida but I am sure that in Iowa they never Tire of corn soybeans and pork belly conversation.Lol

Dr Noris Ledesma
Meet me at the Florida State Horticulture Meeting on September 26 to 28 at Daytona Beach, Fl.
For more information bellow

Mango and Lions:

The air-shipment of mangos from India to the United States during the last 3 seasons has increased interest in the production of Indian mango cultivars in south Florida. ‘Jumbo Kesar’ is originally from India. Jumbo Kesar’ is a seedling of ‘Kesar’ mango originally grown at the Dedakyali village, Gujarat State. Mr. Madhavray Savani, a mango farmer from Mota Bhamodra village, started propagating the tree inspired by the improved size of the fruit. The ‘Jumbo Kesar’ started gaining popularity in the region, and many farmers started growing it.

The Gir Nature Trust, promoting sustainable farming and helping local farmers to create a mango corridor using mangos including ‘Jumbo Kesar’ for wildlife migration including last lions in India.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does foggy equal Frosty bottom?
« on: March 15, 2021, 08:27:16 AM »
Where I live in town we only get fog a half dozen times during the fall winter spring. I know we are at a higher elevation but once you get out of town about three miles Foggy Bottom is almost a everyday thing. Whenever we have a frost warning this area get hammered almost every time. About 5 miles out of town headed for the coast some unfortunate fellow planted a hundred mango trees several years ago. Surprise surprise as they say in Wilmington burnt toast

It may be a while before the sun can burn this thick soup off.
Does this look familiar to anyone?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Utuado avocado bloom
« on: March 09, 2021, 06:41:11 AM »
Does anyone else have this avocado tree.
As one of the California cool kids educated me last year.  That I may have turned it into a runt by letting it carry fruit on its first year of bloom. The tree is about 5 to 6 years old and only three and a half feet tall. If the fruit turns out to be early and excellent I will use it to graft to other larger tree's

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