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Temps inside were getting into the 90s
Seed mold: someone suggested to soak the seeds in diluted bleach solution first.
Socal has been so cold, so how did you get 90 in the green house? With heater?

The day I discovered the damage it was 62į out but was 86į in the sealed up greenhouse. The day before it had reached 68į so I assumed it went over 90į. The grafted tree got burnt, and one 3í sweet tart seedling, and when I lifted that pot it was dry dry. I assume it was that heat and sun intensity and not cold because uncovered mango trees around my yard are not showing the same damage. Luckily the big grafted mango tree is somewhat shading the other mango and avocado seedlings and they didnít seem affected. Though still thirsty

Yeah the rootstock is fine and it looks like the scions that got grafted are still good, just might have to push new growth below

Has anyone else had issues with seeds molding? Been cleaning the seeds thoroughly and the media to sprout in and that has helped but still getting some black mold on the seeds. Iím germinating a bunch of NDM seeds right now and itís looking pretty good a few weeks in but I have a few getting significantly moldy.

I hadnít opened up my greenhouse and checked for over a week. I did before storms last week and saw my big beauty cocktail tree got roasted. Temps inside were getting into the 90s and I hadnít been running irrigation because all the rain and Iím guessing soil had dried out because it was protected. Irrigated and Iím really hoping she bounces back

Thanks Janet,

Iíll check those out. I am looking into converting my subtropical trees to grey water

Controlled burns and fire management was actually something that went astray in Southern California. In other places in the US it was a more useful tool, but the chaparral that makes up the majority of plant material down here has evolved around fires at intervals of about 100 years. When prescribed burns came through they were done much more regularly, plus whatever wild fires happened. This led to invasive species (grasses and mustards in particular) which grow much quicker than chaparral taking over large swaths of the landscape. These less hardy plants die out and crisp up once summer comes into full effect, leading us into a cycle of fire.

The drought, unfortunately, is not over after one year of rain. Drought is an overall climate condition, and we experiencing a weather event. Even with all this rain 60% of California is in drought. The reservoirs will only hold so much, lake mead is still falling, and our depleted aquifers are not getting recharged sufficiently.

Unfortunately wishing and hoping isnít going to help us much, management and action may. I hope all of us look at managing our water for our thirsty trees efficiently and work towards reducing our footprints. I know lots of people disagree/ disbelieve with environmental policy and confuse it with political issues, we all know someone who has left CA citing the government and prices. Honestly the only thing I see having me leave CA is the prolonged climate issues and water

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Great Scion Wood Exchange 2023
« on: January 16, 2023, 01:08:25 PM »
I went to the IE chapter one last weekend and got some great stone fruit scions.

Iím not really growing anything else that I would need scions of at this time of year otherwise I would come through

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Manila mangoes: better in Manila!
« on: January 10, 2023, 08:12:37 PM »
Work a couple seeds into your luggage

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Freeze Damage
« on: December 31, 2022, 09:21:10 PM »
Thatís a pretty tiny tree, would monitor it closely and not over water it for the next few weeks.

You can scrape for green or just wiggle the branches every now and then. Live tissue should be supple and flexible. Dead tissue becomes brittle (my experience).

If it had a trunk caliper of a few inches I would feel better saying it should be fine.

Perhaps Iíve never had a good one, but Iíve never had one that I thought was anything special. Subsistence seems a good description. I donít particularly like the arborist unedo as a landscape tree, but the arbutus Ďmarinaí is a killer specimen! But I donít think the fruit are worth eating.

The strawberry tree does not make a great fruit. Do a strawberry guava, the fruit is MUCH better the bark is very attractive and makes an architectural tree. A great landscape tree with pretty alright fruit that does well here

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cal Poly Ponoma Nursery
« on: December 12, 2022, 02:13:21 PM »
My school! I used to check out the nursery and help out in my plant science classes and farm stuff. The dragon fruit selection is pretty good and they do a huge pepper sale every year where they have tons of different varieties for sale. Decent plumerias too, and got a good deal on aloe tree. Itís fun to check out if you also wander around the campus and know where to look for cool landscape species, but not a ton of tropical fruit (some coffee, pineapple guava and dragon fruit, banana, Barbados cherry, and mango seedlings)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 2022 PayPal taxes
« on: November 30, 2022, 11:46:35 PM »
Itís. Damn shame when this is getting rolled out when billionaires and corporations still have every loop hole imaginable

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango: germinate seed in 90F oven
« on: October 22, 2022, 12:16:40 PM »
Thanks for sharing your creative idea, Sapote!

I also have newly germinated mango seeds in conventional pots currently,
would you recommend to plant these in the ground now (late October)
or later in Spring be better for our SoCal climate?

In my personal experience small trees planted in fall have a higher chance of failure. With our cold weather and moist soils over the winter the lil guys are more prone to developing issues with wet feet.

I would put them in the ground in spring and let them develop roots over summer and fall to better handle less than idle conditions.

Can anyone identify this mango tree a keitt or Valencia pride?
Got this from Emily nursery, listed as keitt but looks like Valencia pride to meÖ

It looks like keiiit leaves Iíve seen, and my Valencia pride occasionally has leaves varying in shape and form.

I would assume it is what it was labeled as until it fruits.

Search Craigslist and Facebook market place. I have seen those available!

Appreciate you posting these! If I had appropriate sized root stock o would have taken you up!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sweet tart mango seeds
« on: October 17, 2022, 03:56:19 PM »
I would like to get 4 if still available! Thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Restoring a 30+ year old avocado orchard
« on: October 11, 2022, 03:49:11 PM »
Pretty incredible! With all the potential irrigation issues I would recommend putting in a. Flow sensor with an automatic master valve shut off. And installing ball valves on every run for easy repairs and trouble shooting. Best of luck and thanks for showing us your new journey


Good the hear about the promise of Val-Carrie. I have a cocktail tree with Valencia pride, Carrie and sweet tart. Was thinking about putting Val-Carrie on because it would be fun to have a side by side comparison of the parents and their offspring.

I am surprised by how vigorous the Carrie scion is growing. It was dominating the tree (was grafted this year and over taking grafts from last year) so I bent the branch down for a few weeks using string and an anchor. It has now opened up the center and brought everything a bit more level canopy. Excited to see how these cocktail trees perform!

Looking great! What size were they when they went in?

Just gotta give mine more time!

Seanny, thanks for posting the photo and mentioning your method to do the air layer. I was thinking of doing something similar since my dad who was a bonsai instructor always used pots on the air layer branch for his bonsai. Good to hear it works, my previous years air layers (10) all had roots but after I moved them into small pots, 70% died in one year.

This year I will do the normal air layer, then once i see roots, I will try your pot method with soil, it sounds like a good idea. I have some large air layers going now (2-3" diameter, 6-8ft tall), so I will make sure to try your method. I plan to air layer maybe 20 branches so I can get as much of the branches off before I cut the tree down.

Here's my large Brester lychee tree photo from 2021.


What an absolute monster of a tree, Iíll keep an eye out if you sell any of those air layers

I suppose Iíd need to befriend someone with a tree or trees. My only experience is super market versions, and they do not advertise the variety haha. Thank you for the input

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree - Worth it?
« on: September 17, 2022, 11:39:38 PM »
Consider a pecan tree spaced up to 20í from your house on the south side. They grow into stately shad trees, provide delicious nuts, and are deciduous so in the winter they allow sun to warm your buns. Idk if you can grow persimmons there, but same attributes but in a smaller tree closer to the house

Is grafting lychee not common practice?

Not in the US. Air layering is very easy and grafting often has poor success rates because lychee cambium is only actively growing for a short period of time. That being said, it is possible. Certain varieties are traditionally grafted in China and I believe Lara Farms grafts a lot of their stock to Mauritius seedlings because that variety performs better in limestone soil.

Thanks for the info, I was thinking which other tropical I wanted (probably replace my strawberry guava) and lychee came to mind. I had not done any research but was planning to start seeds and figure it out later. Sounds like I better read up and buy an air layer. Any recommendations on the best bang for buck variety in terms of being hardy, and good quality?

Is grafting lychee not common practice?

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