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TAF and Alex have consistently provided quality fruit and budwood, over the course of many years that I have known and done business with them. Gotta wonder about grafting skills. The other thing, grafting can be hit or miss depending on many variables, not just quality of budwood and skill of grafter. Get you a veggie slicer!

Let me start by saying I’m not bad mouthing anyone, I’m sharing my experience.

I would question my grafting skills as well if it weren’t for the 100% success rate I’ve had this year with bud wood from other sources. I think it has something to do with transport in the wet paper towel and the very hot weather. Most scions I’ve received from TAF arrived in the conditions below






Having black and dark marks along their length and having stems looking not great. I trim away to where it looks best and graft to failure. These were Valcarrie

However with this same order the below Pickering scions arrived, uniformly green, nice bend to them and healthy looking cambium and innards.



Unsurprisingly to me the valcarrie failed and the Pickering, Im happy to say, has healed and is pushing new growth. These were my favorite mono embryonic mangos I tried this year so I really wanted them in my collection. Hopefully I can get valcarrie to stick next year.

Maybe it is my grafting skills, but I do find I have a very high success rate with uniformly green crisp scions instead of musty ones.

I’ll message Alex and see if he could possibly offer wrapping in buddy tape or paradigm for shipping to CA as scions I have received that way seem to hold up well.

I will keep in mind the hydrating method mentioned here

I too took the opportunity of throwing out organic fertilizer pellets under all my trees so they would water in well and have about 9 fresh scions on. Hoping for a nice explosion of growth

Sorry to hear Brad.

The wind is just starting here in riverside. Been just steady rain all day till now. Palm Springs is at quite a bit more. Pretty wild.

Commercial mango growing happens out where they are experiencing the worst of the storm and I haven’t seen the Keitts in stores yet. I’m worried about my mangos splitting hopefully their crops are ok

Though I wish I owned coastal property the one solace I take in the Riverside heat is that my mango trees love it. Trees that are holding fruit are on their second flush of the year and trees not holding fruit are on their fourth.

I have several sweet tart grafts I did this year that are on their second flush, so hopefully I will have my very own in two years

Quote from: Oolie on July 12, 2023, 01:30:38 PM

Quote from: MadFarm on July 12, 2023, 10:54:41 AM

I have read this whole thread, and much else on this topic... I must have missed something. Can a mango trees' female flowers be pollinated by its own male flowers? If so, even if the seed was mono-embryonic wouldn't it be almost true to type? Or is self fertilization what makes poly-embryonic seeds?

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12030.msg365771#msg365771

Yes, self fertilization is possible. No it does not necessarily almost true to type, if that were the case, seedlings of monoembryonic Indian mangoes would be planted instead for the fruit instead of being grafted. Grafting changed mango cultivation forever when it was introduced to India. And mangoes often have perfect flowers, so the same flower could conceivably pollinate itself.

The link will take you one page back where the cause of Poly seeds is mentioned.

Thank you for the response. To be more specific, let's say there was a grafted specimen of a known monoembryonic cultivar in an isolated environment away from any other trees and it flowered and was self pollinated by whatever means of insect or hand and it produced fruit... why wouldn't the seeds be genetically identical?

What you are asking makes sense if you are looking at it that the male and female would be genetically identical in a mono plant and they would combine together to make a totally identical combination.

My (far removed) biology and botany classes would state instead that they are both brining their own sets of genetics and bashing together into a unique new combo of which there are many. Some might be close, some might be radically different. Like parents, their children and siblings.

The poly seems turkey unique because in there there is that genetic mashup, but along for the ride are clones.

I can’t vouch for everything I’m saying here being correct, but I do believe in simple terms that is what is happening.

So even in a Bubble, or large mono crop orchard, that Kent seed is still going to be a wild card!

Valencia Pride holding a good amount of mangoes getting finger size. Last year only harvested 4 hoping to double it this year. Have a few panicles on it right now so maybe a late season hold.










Mallika tree second year in the ground, thinned fruits to only branches I didn’t want to grow any more for now, or where growth was occurring above fruit. It’s still tiny but healthy flushes and holding fruit so we’ll see




Sweet tart scions out on a few weeks ago are really pushing with this heat as well as my other seedling flushing great with the heat

Wow these Okrung or what I imagine Manna From Heaven Must taste like. Some folks frown on eating mangoes straight out of the refrigerator but after mowing the yard I find that it is quite refreshing. It also slows the ripening process down immensely. I picked this Okrung from a Grove I refer to as Area 51. When I visited they just had received a deluge of rain and I observed a very tall gray who must be a water Walker with webbed feet. For I am a sinker I had my work boots but my socks still got wet. I was able to harvest the Pirates Booty of Super Julie and this Okrung. I have to admit that I was a snob torch Asian Thai mangos. But now just like in the monkey song I am a believer because of Okrung
https://youtu.be/4PQAqprjOuA

I’ll have what he’s having

Nice! Those mangos look much riper than the ones I ordered. I think mine were pretty early in the season and did not reach their correct flavor. Luckily the seeds have all been germinating at least

I am looking for fast growing mango as well.
Are you trying to make some rootstocks for grafting?
That's the reason I am looking for

I am growing lots of different mango seedlings right now in SoCal. None of them have outperformed the manilla seedling. granted the one i have is not from home depot, but it is growing like crazy and likely to hit 12' this year. hopefully next year it flowers so I can begin growing those as root stock

I noticed Tropical Acres doesn't list poly or mono on this one. I have another fruit from the same grower I'm waiting on and will see.

But very encouraging to hear it may be poly because it stands out from other poly mangos I've had

That is a California come up right there haha

One idea of dealing with the roots would be to dig a trench 3’ deep and maybe 6” wide along the fence line. This would air prune the cedar roots. You could install root barrier on one side and landscape fabric around the sides and bottom and fill with gravel giving you root barrier and some drainage.

I know that’s not the question you asked, but my 2 cents