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Citrus General Discussion / Re: how true-to-seed is true-to-seed?
« on: June 18, 2023, 02:34:04 AM »
If you get a zygote that's a clone, it will be mostly the same apart from mutations that arose in the germ cells in the parent. When you're copying a whole genome, there will always be mistakes. I can't speak for how similar they are to the parent typically, but there can be variation in several nucellar embryos from the same parent. IE, the clones will all differ slightly.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: varieties to eat in whole
« on: February 11, 2023, 12:14:16 AM »
Finger lime, limequat, and cara cara oranges are all great to eat all of. Some smaller navels, too. mandarins vary by variety/batch. Even some smaller navels.

I think of the rind and vesicles to be two parts of the flavor profile that I usually enjoy simultaneously. There's a lot that's added, imo,

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Grafting And Rootstock Questions
« on: January 02, 2023, 11:16:03 AM »
Seville orange is pretty easy to get in California and I'd guess Texas is doable. I usually get them from farmer's markets.

If you're growing sour citrus like limes or lemons, Rangpur is probably worth considering. It's vigorous and productive, but also the most drought tolerant rootstock. It reduces sugar content for oranges and grapefruits. As water becomes scarcer, it seems like a smart choice, though that's a much more a California than Texas problem currently.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Dekopon/Sumo/Shiranui
« on: December 31, 2022, 10:46:32 AM »
Even in Japan where the climate is relatively warm, they grow shiranui in greenhouses year-round. It's an intensive crop to grow to make it sweet enough. You wouldn't get that quality outdoors most likely unless you live somewhere really hot like Brazil.

From https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc4249 -
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"Due to both its size and sweetness, 'Dekopon' fruits are quite expensive. One fruit costs roughly Y750 (US$6.60). The fruits are usually grown in large greenhouses to keep them at a constant temperature, and are harvested during January (winter in Japan). After harvesting, 'Dekopon' fruits are usually left for a period of 20-40 days so that the levels of citric acid in the fruit lower while the sugar levels increase, to make a more appealing taste for the market.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: New Zealand Lemonade true from seed?
« on: December 29, 2022, 09:34:10 AM »
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13726.msg177290#msg177290

According to this post from 2015, it is usually true to seed.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Limequats nucellar?
« on: December 28, 2022, 04:16:20 PM »
One of its parents is polyembronic (aurantifolia/Key/Mexican/West Indian lime)  and the other monoembryonic (round kumquat). I haven't been able to find the answer, but it could go either way based on what I know.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Rangpur Lime Tasting
« on: December 01, 2022, 07:35:25 PM »
Rangpur is great! I like the aroma and taste and but pretty much use them for meat and fish. It's a bit each like mandarin, lime, and lemon. Part of the aroma reminds me of kaffir lime, but more mild. I can see how dressing would be good; would you mind sharing a recipe?

I'm sure there are other uses (I've read marmalade is good and that it can taste good mixed with orange juice), but I'm pretty happy using it for savory only.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Makrut lime
« on: November 22, 2022, 10:04:20 PM »
I use the juice for citrus chicken marinades all the time. Very fragrant and flavorful.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: WTB - Italian Lemons
« on: November 15, 2022, 09:34:28 AM »
You should be able to order from the ucr ccpp (ccpp.ucr.edu). They have a number of Italian lemons in bud form for grafting. I think they ship worldwide; I'm not sure if FL permits CA state budwood, but I'd hope this program is acceptable.

I don't know Florida's market/nursery scene, so you may be able to get more options closer, but here's at least one option. (Florida also has a disease-free budwood provider.)

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Desert lime (Citrus glauca) seeds
« on: November 14, 2022, 11:01:42 AM »
Quote from: Pandan on November 10, 2021, 02:22:42 PM
I guess the CCPP would be our only choice
https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/eremocitrus.html

However Australia being free of HLB I think it would be possible to import from there:

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/plants/plant_imports/federal_order/downloads/2016/2016-31.pdf

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/plants/plant_imports/federal_order/downloads/hlb_cvc.pdf

"Non-restricted countries may import Rutaceae seeds with an import permit, phytosanitary certification from the country of
origin, and a declaration that the country of origin is free of HLB and CVC. " I've been meaning to make a post asking about this as ive never imported seed and citrus/rutaceae have so many regulations

Here is a seller who offers various finger lime cultivar seeds that interest me too:
https://www.forever-seeds.com/contact-us.html

CCPP doesn't provide desert lime. Finger lime var sanguinea is the only Australian lime they have.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rangpur limes?
« on: November 13, 2022, 04:57:07 PM »
I rather like them, especially for citrus marinades. It's very juicy and moderately aromatic. I like makrut and finger lime aromatics better, but they're not juicy enough to make the marinade. Lemons are another great option, although I think it can easily outweigh the lime flavors.

I'm planning on growing some from seed as rootstock because of their extreme drought tolerance. I've read crops on Rangpur rootstock can handle up to 240 days without rain!

The "fruit quality" (usu. measured as sugar/total soluble solids) is moderate, so other rootstocks will probably yield sweeter fruit, but for sour citrus it's probably a great choice.

Calamondin taste is very good but rather different. I'd say grow both!

Also, in addition to FourWindsGrowers, you can get seeds in bulk from Lyn Citrus Seed, and you might have luck finding it on craigslist. There are a handful of people selling Rangpur trees currently.

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