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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SKINN30A CITRUS GROVE PROGRESSION
« on: June 25, 2014, 03:08:58 PM »
Sour Orange rates good for freezes, but susceptible to both burrowing nematodes and citrus nematodes, other then that, it either rates good or tolerant to just about everything else except tristerza virus. - Millet

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NEW YORK June 24,2014—U.S. orange-juice retail sales fell to the lowest level in 12 years as consumer demand for what was once a staple of the American breakfast table continues to drop.

U.S. consumers bought 36.99 million gallons of orange juice during the four weeks ended June 7, down 6.9% from a similar period a year ago, according to Nielsen data published Monday by the Florida Department of Citrus. - Millet

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Starling1, what problem is there in shipping citrus seeds out of Australia?  Shipping seed should be no problem at all. - Millet

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: For Trade Lemonade seeds
« on: June 24, 2014, 10:55:27 PM »
I should have some seed this fall. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SKINN30A CITRUS GROVE PROGRESSION
« on: June 24, 2014, 10:53:57 PM »
Skinn the root stock US897 looks very good. The tolerance to HLB is high. At this time I did not have time to read as much as I want to on US942 but I will read all that I can tomorrow.  Thanks for the excellent information, I find it exciting. . - Millet- Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Miewa Kumquat
« on: June 24, 2014, 06:24:31 PM »
Robby, I have never seen a meiwa/nagami 2-n-1 tree offered for sale.  It would be a neat tree to have. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Citrus Breeding Center Opens
« on: June 24, 2014, 03:02:49 PM »
The opening of a new citrus breeding center should help the Sunshine State’s efforts to breed varieties of citrus resistant to disease.
Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam hosted an open house June 16 for the new Florida Citrus Repository in LaCrosse, Fla.
The 20,000 square-foot facility is significantly larger than an the older 4,000 square-foot operation in Gainesville, Fla. More than 20 NEW varieties of citrus are expected to be released every year, representing an 85% increase in production capacity. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Japan a giant importer for citrus
« on: June 24, 2014, 10:02:26 AM »
Japan is an interesting market for any provider given its large size (127 million people), its higher purchasing power (90% of its population are in the middle class) and the attractive prices they pay. Moreover, the country is dependent in food imports as the local production can only cover 40% of their needs.

However, Japan isn't so dependent on citrus imports because it has a great local production of tangerines. Annually, the country harvests 900,000 tons of Mikan tangerines and similar varieties. This industry, however, is suffering serious setbacks because of the abandonment of crops, as they are being replaced for more profitable ones, and the ageing of farmers. 60% of the farmers are over 65 years old and it's difficult for them to harvest the tangerine growing on the slopes. 15 years ago the production exceeded 1.5 million tons per year, and it is currently less than one million. The production of other citrus is very small: 15,000 tons of lime and 5,000 tons of oranges.

To complete local production, Japan imports 350,000 tons annually. Almost half of the imports correspond to grapefruit. The Japanese are big consumers of this fruit, even though it is not grown locally. Japan's major suppliers of grapefruit are the U.S. (110,000 tonnes) and South Africa (40,000 tons). The second most important citrus imports are for oranges. Given its limited local production, Japan has to import almost everything it consumes. Here again, the main supplier is the U.S. (100,000 tons) and Australia (30,000 tons). Japan imports 35,000 tons of limes from the U.S. and 12,000 tons from Chile

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Drooping leaves can be caused by drought, and it can also be caused by a medium saturated with too much water. In your tree's case it is from a saturated soil.  Your tree's drooping is actually caused by a lack of soil oxygen which was driven out by the saturated situation..  Without available oxygen roots cannot absorb water even though it is in ample supply.  Planting the tree as is, will not cure the problem.  It should be corrected.  Removing all of the medium, could cause still more trouble for the tree if not done very carefully , depending on how tightly the roots are held by the present soil. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SKINN30A CITRUS GROVE PROGRESSION
« on: June 23, 2014, 09:55:46 PM »
Skinn, if I counted correct you are planting  280 trees.  I know you live right on the ocean.  Is you grove right near your home?  Is  there active tristeza virus in your area?  I ask this because I see you have 35 tree rooted on Sour Orange as one of your root stocks.  Sour Orange is a great root stock, but very susceptible to tristeza.  I have to give you a lot of credit for all of the time, planning, and effort you are putting into your orange grove project.   You deserve a pat on the back.  Thank you for showing us what you are doing.  We look forward to seeing the future progress as it develops.  BTW, I hope to see you in Tipton Georgia at the 2014 Citrus Expo.  I looked for you at last years Expo, and was sorry you could not make it.  Take care and thanks again - Millet

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Tom to answer your question.  My Star Ruby Grapefruit is the oldest containerized tree I have (10 Years old), it is in a container that is 18" high and 16" wide.  However, the tree that is in the my largest container is a Chandler Pummelo, its container measures 26" high and 27" across having a circumference of 96 inches. This tree is about 5 years old.   Both containers were made using Root Maker's Root Builder-II which comes in 100-ft. rolls. - Millet

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AMAZING INSIDE”  and “The AMAZING 6,” are the new tag lines designed to communicate the benefits of Florida orange juice and will serve as future marketing communications.

“The new tag lines will be executed domestically and also internationally on many websites and social media channels and will utilize celebrity spokespersons while also empowering loyal OJ fans as brand ambassadors.”

This  new advertising effort is badly needed, according to other industry leaders. This is definitely a very challenging time for Florida citrus. The single biggest concern, is a recent barrage of negative media reporting about orange juice. "It is ridiculous that orange juice has become the boogeyman that’s supposedly making our children obese and giving people diabetes,” Meadows said. “It’s gotten to the point where [the negative publicity] is out of control.  And it’s frustrating to me. It’s frustrating to our growers. But it’s become a convenient sound bite for so-called nutrition experts to say orange juice is bad for you. And there is no doubt it has had negative impact on consumer demand and sales. Doug Bournique, executive vice president of Indian River Citrus League, agreed that negative reporting has damaged the industry’s image and financial bottom line.

Meanwhile, Florida’s orange production has continued to decline, according to the latest numbers from USDA, which downgraded its estimate of 2014 production to 110 million boxes, an 18 percent drop from last year. - Millet

Total citrus acreage is down to just 50-60 percent of what it was at the industry’s peak a decade ago. And net production has been cut in half.


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I know of a 124 year old Sour Orange tree growing in a container at the Monastery Of Our Lady Of The Rosary in Summit, NJ.  It is cared for by the Dominican nuns.  In fact this containerized tree was a cutting taken from the famous Saint Sabina Sour Orange tree in Rome. 

My oldest container citrus tree is a Star Ruby grapefruit which has been growing in a container for approximately 10 years. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Words to Memorize
« on: June 20, 2014, 09:57:26 PM »
Rootstocks are selected first for their compatibility with the scion cultivar to be grown, and second for a wide range of other characteristics, which include nutrient uptake, pH sensitivity, pH tolerance, salinity tolerance, fungal and nematode resistance, yield, fruit size, time of fruit maturity, fruit quality, precocity, vigor, tree size and maturity, tree shape, cold hardiness, drought resistance, hormone production, sink relations within the tree, efficiency of nutrient uptake, water use, and fruit yield. In fact, it is nearly impossible to think of an aspect of tree physiology or yield that is not affected by the rootstock. Take care of your tree's root system, you take care of the tree. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Words to Memorize
« on: June 18, 2014, 11:22:07 PM »
The most important sentence I have read on growing citrus, was said by Frank Turrell a citrus researcher about 1969

"As the roots grow, so grows the tree. " - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Greening
« on: June 18, 2014, 08:59:07 PM »
Scientists may have found an answer to help limit Citrus Greening (HLB) in the form of a Pakistani wasp that lives to attack the psyllid. Its scientific name is Tamarixia radiata, says David Morgan with the California Department of Food and Agriculture, who is part of a $1.4 million state project to breed and release the Tamarixia wasps into the wild.  "They are ridiculously small," Morgan notes, adding that each insect is about the size of a grain of  salt, making them much too tiny to sting a person. They are, however, the perfect size to hunt down the minuscule Asian citrus psyllid. The wasps are experts at finding citrus trees, where the psyllid feeds on leaves. The psyllid is the wasps only food source. Once it finds a psyllid, the wasp will puncture a hole in the pest and suck out its juices, then lays its eggs in the psyllid's body ,"just like a vampire," Morgan notes. The plan is to release many millions of the wasps in citrus producing states.   - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Miewa Kumquat
« on: June 18, 2014, 02:50:59 PM »
Brian, I see you have your Kumquats growing in Air Root Pruning containers. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Lowest Florida Orange Crop In 30 Years
« on: June 17, 2014, 11:05:55 PM »
This years orange crop in Florida is predicted to be the lowest harvest in the last 30 years, due to the fatal Citrus Greening disease  (HLB).  The harvest dropped 28 percent from laast year's crop.. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: back from the dead
« on: June 17, 2014, 10:06:18 PM »
Take good care of it and you will have a full tree by the end of summer. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Received Two Grapefruit Trees Today
« on: June 17, 2014, 10:04:34 PM »
Dr. Manners has written that in his opinion Marsh grapefruit left hanging on the tree until late February or March, is the very best tasting grapefruit available to man.   - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: The looks of my trees after winter
« on: June 17, 2014, 01:02:01 AM »
Winter Leaf Drop (WLD) Occurring With Container Grown Citrus trees.  Here is a preview to an upcoming article in the California Rare Fruit Growers Magazine "Fruit Gardner" about this problem.

Many people seem to have problems during the winter with their citrus trees. There is a phenomenon that affects citrus grown in containers know as Winter Leaf Drop (WLD), which is what happens to the trees during storage in winter quarters.  With the appearance of fall and a decrease in temperatures, the trees are brought indoors to protect them from freezes and frost damage. 

Unfortunately, the most common recommendation freely given for storing the trees indoors is as follows:

"Give the tree as much light as possible, keep the medium moist, but never over water.  Let the medium dry out more than in summer.  Hold the tree at temperatures around 41 - 50 F (5 - 10 C)."

 If you have followed this advice and have had no problems, you are lucky because most people who did so had problems.  The trees start to shed leaves, leaf after leaf drops, and in spring, after the last frosts, when the trees are placed outside again, many trees have few or no leaves remaining on the limbs, twigs and branches.  The cleavage is often between the leaf petiole  and the leaf blade, the petiole remaining on the tree. Often the dropped leaf shows no chlorotic patterns or any other discoloration.  Our first thought is that Winter Leaf Drop was influenced by low-light conditions during winter times. But even with extra illumination Winter Leaf Drop continued.  Often, after bright, sunny mid winter days, more leaves are shed than after longer periods of less bright light.  So we tried to find out what might be the cause of Winter Leaf Drop.  We chose five lemon seedling trees, all about one foot high.  The seedling trees were placed in different locations with different conditions:

1. The first seedling tree was placed in a cool and bright location at a south facing window, at temperatures around 43 -50 F (6-10 C).

2.The second seedling tree was placed in the same room, but at a north facing window.

3. For the third tree, we chose a temperate room with temperatures around 59 F (15 C).

4. The fourth tree was placed at the same temperatures but on a south facing window.

5. The last plant was placed in a warm room of 70 F (21 C) at a south facing window with extra illumination.

All trees were irrigated as needed, just to keep the root ball moist, but not wet and not allowed to dry out.  Only #5 was irrigated more regularly and fed evenly.  After winter we found that #1 shed nearly all its leaves. #2 dropped some leaves only, and the others had only lost some (fewer than five) or no leaves.  We found light may NOT be the factor causing WLD, so we thought about temperature.

After a long discussion with citrus experts in Florida and Israel, it was found that temperature will cause WLD. The temperature tables from the book Biology of Citrus show that citrus stops root growth and root function if the soil temperature drops below 54.5 F (12.5 C).  Leaf activity will be reduced if the temperatures drops below 64 F (18 C).  Leaf activity means the full process of water evaporation for leaf surface cooling, energy transformation (photosynthesis) and starch reduction for building amino acids and other compounds for forcing plant growth and cell development.  Citrus controls its leaf temperature by evaporating water from the leaf blade.  This reduces the temperature even during hot periods and will maintain the leaf temperature at the optimum levels between 77 F (25 C) and 95 F (35 C).  But even on cold days the sunlight can heat up the leaf surface quite quickly to levels beyond the critical temperature of 54.5 F (12.5 C).  Photosynthesis itself works better in cooler conditions with high light radiation than in the warmer periods of the day, so most of the photosynthetic starch production is done in the morning before noon and less water is evaporated than during the afternoon.  Optimum leaf temperature for photosynthetic activity for most plants ranges from 50 F (10 C) up to 90 F (32 C). Photosynthesis itself  needs carbon dioxide, light and water to transform the carbon dioxide into starch and oxygen. During the night the starch will be oxidized to provide energy needed for plant growth and development. The whole process is called breathing. Water and nutrients for the breathing process must be taken up by the roots.  Oxygen and carbon dioxide will be delivered from the air around the plant, taken up by the leaf surface (and to some extent by other green parts of the plant) so leaf and root activity must run in a balance to provide the best plant performance for growth, flowering and fruit development.  If a citrus tree is stored at temperatures below 54 F (12 C) but gathers enough light for photosynthesis, this balance is broken.  The leaf activity requires water, which the roots cannot deliver.  The tree stops evaporation and water will be unavailable for cooling the leaf surface on bright days, so the tree reduces active leaf area by leaf abscission.  This seems to be the best theory about what causes WLD.

Partial or complete defoliation was never critical if the root ball was kept  a little more on the dry side, but if it was too wet, a quick root decline developed even if Poncirus trifoliata was used as a root stock.  Most of the trees recovered quite will in spring (if the roots stayed healthy and a heavy bloom was set).  But in recovering the whole canopy, often the trees used up much of their starch reserves in the stock, which did not fully refill during the short summer times.  After some years, many trees suffered, growth was stopped and the trees died because all of the starch had been depleted.

So what to do about WLD? Irrigation during wintertime seems to be a recommended practice to slow down WLD. Irrigation with warm water 77-90 F (25-32 C) supports the root function, even the water uptake, so WLD will slow down.  Irrigation reduces the plant stress during cold winter time and is therefore recommended.

Keeping the trees in a room with high humidity seems also to slow down WLD but cannot prevent it.  Also a place more in the shade, to minimize  leaf activity, slows down WLD. Keeping the root temperature below 64 F (18 C) but at or above 59 F (15 C) seems to work best for stopping WLD.  The plant functions are minimized, but water and nutrient uptake for leaf activity is high enough to support the breathing process and leaf surface cooling by water evaporation.

If WLD persist, force the root temperature higher, around 70 F (21 C) this should stop leaf drop.  Sometimes during the winter, fruits dry out on the tree and drop if the tree is stressed too much.  So for fruit development and fruit maturity, higher temperatures and good leaf activity should be maintained.  Irrigation with a nutrient solution should be done even in winter.

Hope this helps - Millet


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As far as I know there is no supplier of New Zealand Lemonade trees in Florida. An as you probably already know, a Florida resident cannot purchase citrus trees out of state, and have them shipped into Florida.  Currently, I believe you are stuck to growing the tree from seed. - Millet

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BONITA SPRINGS, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Citrus is in the final stages of negotiations on a roughly $1 million contract with comic book publisher Marvel Comics Worldwide Inc. to create a new Captain Citrus character to market orange juice to pre-teens and teens. Marvel Comics will remake the current Captain Citrus — which is essentially a life-sized representation of an orange — into a big buff superhero similar to his comic book and movie namesake.

Captain Citrus will transform from a gender neutral character to a big time male superhero with a superman style cape and a  colorful orange uniform.  Marvel will create and publish 1 million copies of a print comic book for free distribution to the children's schools and summer camps. The Lakeland Ledger reports that the Citrus Department and Marvel Comics hopes to kick off the new Captain Citrus this fall in an extravagant Times Square NY event.  - Millet


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Citrus General Discussion / Received Two Grapefruit Trees Today
« on: June 16, 2014, 10:07:03 PM »
Today I received two Marsh Seedless Grapefruit trees from Brite Leaf Citrus Nursery in Florida.  Both trees were in excellent condition, except for the root system.  Both trees were grown in the standard commercial 4x4 Citri-Pots, as is common for commercial grove trees. What I dislike about the Citri-Pot is that it forces the root to grow straight down,  and become very tightly, almost welded, into one big mass of roots.  It is very difficult to spread them out, so that the root system can be planted facing in all directions to make  a circle.  I had to take a knife and cut the root "Brick" into four sections and then try my best to unscramble the roots and then use a strong water stream to wash out the potting soil.   I don't fault Brite Leaf Nursery, as most all commercial citrus trees are grown in the Citri-Pot - except  by Four Winds Growers (my favorite supplier of citrus trees. - Millet

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