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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Maha Chanok mango tree -- what's the consensus?
« on: September 30, 2025, 08:31:26 PM »
Need to get some advice from people who have this tree.  I've heard mixed things.  Some love it and quite a few say it's a 'meh' fruit.  Is the tree worth having?  I'm thinking of getting one; and yes, I know, it's best to try the fruit before committing to the tree, but the problem is I live in Orlando and we don't have easy access to the fruit unless I drive 3 hours south.  What are some opinions?  Do you have the tree?  Do you enjoy the fruit?  I've heard that it is a good fruit on certain days, but terrible if you don't pick it at the exact right time. 

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Darn it.  I don't need a giant tree in my yard.  Guess the P-22 gets evicted.  I appreciate the help.  Better to find this out before the tree becomes a Goliath.   I'm now in the market for an M-4.

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I just planted a P-22 tree but I'm having doubts as real estate is at a premium and there are so many other varieties.  I have pickering, mallika, coconut cream, cogshall, ceci love, cary, Fairchild, honey kiss, fruit punch, rosigold, glenn, sugar loaf, sweet tart, Pina colada, nam doc mai, orange sherbet and lemon meringue. I'm top working one of my lemon meringues to a M4, so that one will be covered.  Does anyone have this tree?  What do you think of it?  It's going to be next to my patio so I'm hoping to keep it around 15 feet without too much trouble. I might opt for a Maha Chanok instead (pretty fruit, easy tree, good production and disease resistance, prolific once established) but I heard the flavor isn't that great. 

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Thanks so much.  I've been given a lot to consider thanks to your kindness in answering my question.  I'm down to Maha, P-22 and M4.  Sadly, I just have a normal sized 1/4 acre residential yard so space is at an ultra premium.  How is the production for P-22 and M4?  Are those trees fairly disease resistant?  I know Maha ticks the boxes for a lot of things (including disease resistance), but I haven't known anyone to rave about the flavor of that mango.   Am I wrong?  I know it's a good mango, but no-one says it's a top ten from what I've seen.  Anyway, I'm headed out to a nursery in Tampa to pick up my new tree for the recently cleared 'prime spot.'   

Any other votes?

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I live in Central Florida and just removed a Lula avocado and have a prime spot for a mango tree now.  I'm thinking Maha Chanok, but I'm not sure.  I have the following varieties so far: honey kiss, ice cream, sugar loaf, pram kei meu, sweet tart, mallika, nom doc mai, orange sherbet, pickering, Pina colada, po pyu kalay (lemon meringue), Glen, Carrie, coconut cream, and Fairchild.   The spot is next to a patio and about 22-25 feet away from the house.  there are other mango trees about 12 feet away.  I'd like a tree that doesn't want to grow into a giant and has excellent disease resistance with a great taste.   I've heard Maha Chanok is a good mango, but would there be others that are even better for that spot? I really like my coconut cream, fruit punch and lemon meringue (although the powdery mildew limits my lemon meringue production.)   I'd like a lemon zest but since lemon meringue is doing poorly here, I reckon lemon zest might as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Florida: what is this bug in my mango?
« on: July 06, 2024, 01:04:45 PM »
I picked a Glenn drop from the ground twice yesterday and found two small holes in the skin of each fruit.  There was also a fairly long worm inside each of the holes using it for breathing.  It wasn't a Caribbean fruit fly larva.  Has anyone else had long white worms in their ripe mangos before in Florida outside of Caribbean fruit fly?  I've been growing mangos in Orlando for over ten years and never have seen anything like it.  I'm just asking in case it might be something new and invasive. I should have taken a photo, but I was just disgusted at the time and threw the offending piece away.  In hindsight, I realize I should have documented it.

The weird thing was the visible hole and the fairly large maggot directly inside of it (about three times the size of a Caribbean fruit fly maggot).


Any mango experts out there get anything in their fruit like this before?  By the way, I live in Orlando and have about 30 trees.

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I tried freezing a bunch of mangos, and all I got was mush when I defrosted them -- flavor was ok but the texture was very off-putting.  Any better way to preserve them by freezing?

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Help! 

I have these black spots on the limbs of my mulberry tree here in Orlando Florida.  I've had them about a year now.  The tree seems fine, but the fruit is subpar -- it might be affected. Any ideas what this is and if it needs treatment? 

Thanks, Chrobrego










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I have an ice cream mango tree that is about six feet high and seven years old.  I've confirmed the variety as well based on pictures, and I purchased it from a reliable grower.  The issue I'm having is my fruit does NOT taste like mango ice cream as a couple of people have claimed.  Mine tastes more like sweet floor cleaner -- it isn't exactly repugnant and it grows on you, but there is definitely a strong turpentine-esque quality to the flavor.   Is this just me or has anyone tasted this fruit?   How would you describe it?

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Hi,

I have a formerly healthy Lula avocado tree here in Florida.  Every year the fruit was beautiful, but last year the fruit started to scab.   I thought it was because of a cold spell, but it's happening again this year.  What could this be? Secondly, how do I fix it?   

Could this be thrips damage? I'm not an avocado expert, so I'm guessing.  If so, would a systematic insecticide like Bayer Fruit knock the little #$%# out? 

Any avocado experts out there?

Thanks,

Shawn










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Thrip damage on avocado fruit
« on: December 31, 2022, 02:05:39 AM »
Hi,

This year my Lula avocados looked terrible -- extensive brown scabs on the fruit skin although the fruit interior was fine.  A google search said the damage was because of thrips.  Never heard of them.  How do you handle thrips on an avocado tree?  Anyone had any experience with this?

Thanks,

Shawn

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: December 31, 2022, 02:02:32 AM »
Lemondrop mangosteen -- small fruit and often infested with small worms
Cattley guava -- Caribbean fruitfly magnet
Papaya -- smells like feet when good and usually infested with Papaya fruitfly maggots when not. Might try again and bag sooner.
Cherry of the Rio Grande -- small worms in dark fruit. Nope....
Peaches of all varieties -- had a small orchard of glorious Florida peaches for a couple of years before the Caribbean fruit fly found it.  Couldn't protect them and every peach infested with maggots.
Grumichama -- some infested with small worms
Passionfruit -- too hard to control
Dwarf everbearing mulberry -- fruit too small to be worth the effort
Citrus except for Sugar belle and Persian limes -- citrus greening killed the rest
White Sapote (Suebelle) -- if in fact a real Suebelle, this fruit had a real nasty aftertaste. Attracted fruit fly as well.
Jujube (Sugar Cane) -- Never fruited in Central Florida; was told it needed more chill hours by the nursery. It also had too many spiny suckers popping up.
Wax jambu -- small fruit, tasteless and attacked by fruit fly
Pitangatuba -- small bombs of pure acid; perhaps good mixed with a drink, but not fresh eating
Low chill pears -- nice tree but no fruit in six years in Central Florida
Feijoa -- small flowers but never any fruit in 7 years
Various Guava -- not once attacked by Caribbean fruit fly (amazingly), but not a fresh eating fruit for me
Rollinia -- die back and no fruit
June Plum -- fruit was hard to eat and seed had spikes
Ice cream bean -- need two to pollinate and die back every winter
Figs -- a few varieties were ok, but not worth the space and the constant battle with rust


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Anyone have any experience using rubber mulch around the base of their fruit trees as a slow release zinc fertilizer?  I put a bunch of rubber tire mulch around my trees about ten years ago because I was lazy having to remulch with cypress. I then read recently that rubber does break down in the environment despite the claims from the Vigaro rubber mulch bag. The leachates are rendered nontoxic during the rotting process (I read the research done on children's playgrounds), but some heavy metals are released, namely zinc with some trace aluminum. I'm not worried about lead as car tires typically don't have much and lead isn't taken up into fruit tree tissues anyway. The main warnings online from garden people are about zinc toxicity, but nobody provides any evidence.  I did see some evidence from a soil test on a playground that had tire mulch that was 15 years old and piled 4 inches high.  The soil tested at 20ppm while toxicity usually occurs around 200ppm.   The amount of zinc leaching also slows down as the tire is broken down in the environment.

Anyway, I read a study done in India that suggested using tire crumb as a low cost slow release zinc fertilizer for tropical fruit trees -- namely because high PH sandy soils are usually deficient in zinc. In fact, the leaves on my tropical fruit trees couldn't be any bigger or greener.

I'm in the process of deciding whether to remove the tire crumb mulch or keep it.  What would you do?

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I kept my Sue Belle white sapote at 10 feet. It was very vigorous though so I needed to prune about every six months.  It took a good prune though with no problems.

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I was just at Truly Tropical in Delray buying mangos and they are apparently contemplating removing all of their lychee trees. They said it was a pain to continually spray sulfur after every flush and you still get the mite. What the heck is the FL Dept of Ag doing about this? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rose Apple Trees & Caribbean Fruit fly?
« on: July 26, 2022, 09:47:40 PM »
Does anyone know if Rose Apple is hit by Caribbean fruit fly?  Does anyone grow this fruit in Florida?  What are the results? Any maggots?  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nastiest mango varieties?
« on: July 26, 2022, 01:44:30 AM »
I just had a Cushman. I'm adding it to the list of nastiest mangos -- great looking fruit, but weird nasty undertones to the taste profile in my opinion. The fruit tends to not ripen evenly as well, so you can be gnoshing on a wedge and occasional get a taste of overripe fermented vomit taste in the middle of your bite. I wouldn't eat another one. To be fair, there has been a lot of rain, so maybe that has something to do with it.

What are some other varieties to avoid?

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I was at Truly Tropical so I picked one up. I actually found a less than ideal spot for it, but still a spot. I'll let you know how it goes in the 3 years or so it'll take to get a fruit.

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I ended up planting a sweet tart, a sugar loaf and found a previously overlooked spot for a Pram Kai Meu.  Asked for advice for one and planted three. I actually am tempted now to remove a honey bell orange since it's so infected with citrus greening that it looks variegated and put another mango in. Now I have to decide which FINAL mango tree to plant.

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Here are a few pics of my residential yard. Every tree/shrub produces fruit. I don't think you'd notice that the front yard has: white Himalayan mulberry, five different jaboticaba, five varieties of feijoa, macadamia, avocado, atemoya, Barbados cherry, loquat, pitangatuba, achacha, dwarf mango and persimmon. They all are very ornamental and don't look out of place in the neighborhood. The backyard is a different story (even more tropical fruit trees): looks like a jungle. :)



























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I'm praying that it doesn't come to Central Florida. I have several lychee trees across several varieties that fruit every single year here (our cold snaps are great for flowering) -- with the exception of Brewster which is the odd man out. The Fl Dept of Ag seems to be doing diddly squat lately to try to eradicate it. I've read that they've run out of money to service infected residential trees. I wonder if systematic insecticides might work????

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Young mango plant.
« on: July 25, 2022, 10:15:58 AM »
It's grafted so the graft isn't aware that it's a very small plant. It will sometimes flower and try to push a fruit. Don't let it fruit at this size or you can risk killing your tree.  Remove all fruit for the first 3 years (maybe two) to allow the tree to build up a strong trunk and deep roots.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pram Kai Meu Mango? Worth having?
« on: July 25, 2022, 10:13:26 AM »
I think you have to eat it ripe rather than the traditional green. Dunno. I just have a very-har-to-come-by-spot open for a mango tree and don't want to waste it on a so-so fruit. I was at first thinking of digging up a small Pickering that is in a prime spot and replacing it with this based on Har's recommendation. After watching a few taste tests on YouTube, I'm not so sure. I'm missing something I think.

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Har lists Pram Kai Meu as supremely delicious. Does anyone have this tree? What is the consensus on it?

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Damn. Gotta find space for a peach cobbler now.

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