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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seedless Or Low-Sseeded Mandarin Varieties
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:23:53 PM »
I worked at picking seedless Mandarins for my yard:

USDA 88-2
Kishu Mini
Pixie
Tango
Yosemite Gold
Gold Nugget

I did buy a couple Page Mandarins but expect to juice them like my seedy Minneola and Cocktail. Some fruits just don't have a seedless equivalent.

I'm pretty sure I've tried all of these and you picked a nice group of top tier Mandarins there!

1902
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare, unusual Variegated fruit trees
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:09:31 PM »
Have a variegated goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora). Pretty neat looking. Will try to get a photo later.

Cool! Please do.

1903
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting lemon guava for the first time
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:08:23 PM »
A forum member from CA sent me some fruit a few months ago, and it included tiny yellow guava (blueberry size) that I assume were "lemon guava" I found them to be outstanding!  Tart, but not too tart and bursting with guava flavor.  I will try to confirm that they were catleys but man were they good.  I really like the way the red cattley i have grows (dense, ornamental, shrub-like), and I need to get some larger yellow ones to go with it.
 

If they were blueberry sized then they weren't cattley guavas. The yellow ones i have get almost to ping pong ball size. The tree is one that i didn't clear out when i first got here, and it is huge. All the other ones got weeded out as cattley is a terrible nuisance weed here.

Au contrair, mon frere. They were perhaps slightly larger than a large blueberry : )
The Lemon Cattley Guava I have is holding 2 crops at the same time and they're ripening at the same time :/
1/2 the crop is shooter marble size , the rest are 1/2 size but ripening at the same time perhaps due to weather. This is pretty late for them to still be hanging for me.
Ping Pong ball size sounds like a nice variety and the power of Hawaii.


(Next to some more tiny fruit from my place, Clementinys)

1904
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mass spectrum botanicals???
« on: February 07, 2015, 12:55:35 PM »
Taking more than a week to reply sometimes is understandable. Taking more than a week to reply every time is kind of a deal killer. Scale back and refocus if you can't manage it.
MassSpectrum is a PM receiving trading forum member who can answer for himself.
This is day 3 of this thread so we shall see.
There are a number of one man show plant/seed/scion sellers who reply promptly and do not leave you wondering about your order.

1905
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting lemon guava for the first time
« on: February 06, 2015, 10:19:40 PM »
A forum member from CA sent me some fruit a few months ago, and it included tiny yellow guava (blueberry size) that I assume were "lemon guava" I found them to be outstanding!  Tart, but not too tart and bursting with guava flavor.  I will try to confirm that they were catleys but man were they good.  I really like the way the red cattley i have grows (dense, ornamental, shrub-like), and I need to get some larger yellow ones to go with it.

Those were yellow cattley's. The red's are too tart for me to enjoy out of hand , unlike the lemon. Now that I have a nice Lemon Guava bush I've switched to only propagating them. I have lots of seed available for members for trade or cost of postage. They grow fast in any soil I've tried and are drought PROOF.

1906
Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« on: February 05, 2015, 09:48:21 PM »
I have not juiced any yet but UCR says "numerous seeds": http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/page.html

Both the parents have seeds but I'm not sure what that means.

I haven't picked any but my first batch looks ready. I guess we will see.

Let us know if they're seedy :)
I trust the UCR link more than my nursery tag and it looks like the same fruit.

I harvested a bunch of Honey Mandarins today and that is a very nice fruit as well.

Plantcrazy- plant your favorite or a highly rated mandarin variety. They all fruit well for me in 15 gallon and larger pots. I don't think there's much difference in cold tolerance of certain Mandarin varieties. Either way you will have to protect it in the winter.


1907
Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« on: February 05, 2015, 01:45:10 PM »
The Page Mandarin I have posted a picture of the label above states it is seedless. My fruit is seedless and not pollinated by the 15 + varieties of citrus in my small yard.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gold Nugget Mandarin
« on: February 04, 2015, 12:01:37 PM »
Gold Nuggetts are found at the farmers market starting in April.
My in ground tree had completely orange fruit starting in January. Last year I picked them all before April and they were not as sweet and harder to peel. This year I'm waiting until April and expect they will be sweet and easy to peel. Try letting 1 hang if there's any left.

1909
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Today's fresh fruit score
« on: January 31, 2015, 09:02:09 PM »
Were the mangosteens any good? I remember buying a netted bag like that in one of the stores in Little Saigon of mangosteens and lychees and both were terrible quality. I like that they have the jackfruits already cleaned and ready to eat. The jackfruit i bought there i remember was pretty good. The jacks are probably from Mexico, while the mangosteens and lychees were from Thailand.


Are the Jack fruits from Mexico any good?

They are tasty. I haven't had a bad one yet. Not too much latex, on the crunchy side and the seeds are very good too boiled and roasted in coconut oil. 99 ranch has been a fairly reliable source .

1910
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best time to plant in Miami Florida
« on: January 29, 2015, 12:22:42 PM »
The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now.
– Mark Twain

1911
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1912
All due respect Gentlemen, Whether a mistake or intentional from nursery or individual, mislabeling of varieties can exponentially spread bad information to the grower/buyer that is very excited to have a particular variety. We've heard about this from high rated nursery's La Verne and they're false Timotayo mango, TT and their pond apples etc..
It's very important and a pet peeve of many growers and will often evoke a passionate response.
If this was already addressed earlier and these were relisted for sale in the same erroneous manner I would expect a more adamate response from the forum members regarding mislabeling.
It doesn't matter how much $$ you have, how little the $$ means to you , or that your doing it for the love to spread a variety you like around for free. It's a potentially confused customer passing on cushman bud wood and trying to avoid that confusion and passing it further down the line.
There are many members it seems that if they smell BS , want to put the factual information out there so no one is confused. There is many a knowledgable captain on the SS TFF .
There is plenty of confusion among general public and certain cultures with fruit. 99% of West Indies family calls any large tasty mango "grafted" and Avocado's are Pear's so..language and communication is everything I suppose to move forward from a misunderstanding. I do not see ill intentions or bait and switch or slander just a little confusion.

1913
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2015 UC Cherimoya tasting!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 27, 2015, 11:00:21 AM »
CRFG and the scion exchanges are a great cheap way to jump start your fruit collection by leaps and bounds or find what you've been looking for. My gripe is the serious lack of any sub- tropicals at the Northern California exchanges and the request to only bring dormant deciduous wood , pretty much requesting you don't bring subtropicals. This doesn't push any zones or promote anything exciting outside of stone fruit varieties. Anyone north of SLO has to drive to a So Cal exchange for Avocado, Cherimoya or any other cuttings or scion so anyone in So Cal should really take advantage of being a member if you like sub tropical fruit.

1914
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2015 UC Cherimoya tasting!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 27, 2015, 10:50:07 AM »
I am not into dumpster diving, but I would love to get some free El Bumpo (or any other named Cherimoyas) scions if you have some to give away. I am willing to drive to your house to get them (not as far as San Diego though). I think it's part of the fun of growing tropicals  to get free scions for grafting.

There are a lot of free scions at the CRFG OC chapter for example we just had the grafting demonstration last week. Join your local and reap the benifits. As far as El Bumpo, it's a mediocre producer and susceptible to white flies . I do grow it in my yard but have it at my moms. I'm replacing it with San Mateo which is superior all away around.

I thought you were the Mother Theresa of Cherimoya scion AND fruit ;D :P

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2015 UC Cherimoya tasting!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 26, 2015, 06:50:04 PM »
oh, thanks.. wow, that one I can afford.. $1.50-$2 a pound  ;D

Good Luck

1916
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge avocado tree - advice?
« on: January 26, 2015, 06:45:23 PM »
This tree is in Oakland CA? And survived the killer freeze back in the 90s? And is still 50' tall? Wow! That is a pretty special avocado tree IMO… I would second the suggestion to have the local CRFG come in and get some scion wood off the thing to spread around.

And +1 for pics of both fruit and tree.

There are a lot , probably thousands of 50 + ft tall, 40 + year old Avocado trees that survived the century freeze of 1990 around the Bay Area . This one sounds special because of the heavy annual yields/taste but picking the fruit in that location sounds like you'd want a bucket truck. I am for having a fruit tree pruner cut it to the height where you can at least pick all the Avos with the longest picker pole.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fertilizing Questions
« on: January 25, 2015, 03:30:28 PM »
Fertilize your citrus once a month with Lilly Miller Rhody and Azalea food. Citrus are heavy feeders and this fert has been proven to work well and is widely available. Down to Earth makes a citrus fert as well.
I have seen nursery trees come in 5 gallon of cement hard decomposed granite and agree with Rob about from nursery to homeowner.

1918
If you love juice it's best to buy cold pressed, just like you would juice it at home!
There is a Coconut water company called Harmless Harvest, cold pressed coconut water that tastes like your sipping from the nut and they tout the fact they don't destroy many of the beneficial properties by heat pasteurization. 10 times better than Zico or the canned crap.
If Starbucks alone sold it, Jimmy I would be in line.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Valentine Pummelo seeds available
« on: January 24, 2015, 10:06:08 PM »
Any seeds currently available? Thanks!

Yes I have seeds available, I don't think I can ship scions out of my quarantine zone to another place in California. I got my scion wood from the "Citrus Clonal Protection Program" a few years ago and grafted a few up.

Supposedly illegal to graft your citrus trees with your own scion wood from your yard without the proper paperwork so  CCPP is the only legal wood to graft.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Valentine Pummelo seeds available
« on: January 24, 2015, 02:57:32 PM »
Any seeds currently available? Thanks!

Californians can order a true to type grafted Valentine through your local nursery from Montereybaynursery
They carry other rare nice citrus like the Vaniglia ?Sangiugno. I am very happy with these 2 I special ordered from them.

For anyone outside of California I believe seeds are the only way to go right now.

1921
Good going.  I use a lot of biochar.  I'm surprised that yours Is kind of heavy.  I use a converted steel drum and the pyrolysis of the char takes place at about 800c.  More volatiles get burned out and there is virtually no smoke in the process.  We don't bother to clean the char but soak it in a EM type microorganism culture and use it on the farm.  In any case I am very convinced by charcoal in horticulture.  I'm glad it is working for you.
Peter

I am preparing to make my first batch of biochar and would like to inoculate it. Do you make the soak you are using to inoculate your char?

1922
Juice drinkers that think Pepsi Cola owned Tropicana or Coca Cola owned simply orange are premium juices have perhaps never tasted premium juice. These " premium" juices have always tasted foul and inferior. I always assumed they sat around and were processed in a way that made them taste gross. It sucks that people think this is food or drink and what something tastes like.
 I have this conversation anytime out of town family visit. " wow this melon is good" " yes it's melon season and that's what they taste like fresh and in season". " wow this _______________ fill in the blank vegetable or fruit tastes really good, I never knew I liked this" . " yes it's in season and that's what they taste like fresh and in season".
Anyways check for Evolution juice brand. Cold pressed instead of heated up, flavor is really real. Blows Odwalla and Columbia Gorge out of the water. http://www.evolutionfresh.com/our-story/
No dis respect to anyone , the wool being pulled over our eyes in regards to food and the deception companies and regulatory boards will go to to make or keep profits up is unjust.

1923
I've tasted Normans Ice Cream Bean and it was very similar to the other one I've tried at Exotica,  fibrous pleasantly sweet and refreshing.

Barath,
 Those are seedlings I have from Norman's tree that look so different from the Inga Spectabilis that popped up.

1924
Stupid deer keep me from planting anything between my trees.

No fencing allowed on BPK right? The deer get a vote in the election and a seat at the table. Can you even own a dog down there, that seems like a conflict of interest too.

I grow berries, peppers , squash, cape gooseberry , aloe vera , zinnia's, Mullen between the trees.

1925
Right on, for those outside of Florida looking for Sapodilla there's less options and another member was asking where in California.

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