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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keeping rambutan happy in pots ?
« on: August 12, 2025, 02:09:21 PM »
They grow well for me in my mix of clay loam with manures and coco fiber.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamon apple Pouteria hypoglauca
« on: August 09, 2025, 06:47:49 AM »
That’s about right. Add lots of patience, she’s a very slow grower.
Peter

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In CR you can get certified rock dust, even imported stuff like azomite but we went for the basic and use it along with potassium sulphate.
You’ve complained about your soil being out of balance before and I think a good amount of basic rock dust can help. Our issue is the stuff is so damn heavy to be hauling up hill on the farm. I’ve seen durian do very well in a soil with grit and so I’m inspired. The applications of potassium and phosphate are light applications.

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We use it all the time. It’s mostly collected at the base of steep hills where it’s generally deepest. We mix that with generous amounts of cow manure and some well composted chicken manure along with coco fiber or rice hulls to make our medium.
We don’t use the uncomposted leaf litter.
We do use our own compost sometimes which takes us about 6 weeks to produce.
Peter

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I think rock dust is a great idea and we use it. I wouldn’t compare it in any way with rock phosphate or potassium sulfate. The rock dust to me is more of a long term project that can help a lot with texture and balancing out a soil that is almost all clay. Eventually small amounts of minerals should become available but that’s not going to be like the phosphate or potassium which are amendments that you might apply in more frequent cycles like every 6 months perhaps.
We see rock dust as more like biochar in that once it’s applied to a spot it doesn’t get applied there again. The biochar is an essential part of our microorganism application program.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nice dwarf mulchi harvest
« on: August 01, 2025, 01:29:26 PM »
No, the tree looks alright except that it still has not flowered.  Mulchi has a reputation for slow and id put it there with Langsat seedlings as among the very slowest to fruit.
Peter

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I would cut away the affected parts, leaving only what is healthy. Weakened foliage can be easy for fungus to establish.
Suerte, Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durio kutejensis
« on: July 30, 2025, 12:58:14 PM »
Can’t comment on growing in your location but I will say that they seem to need cross pollination.
Peter

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For this purpose we work for the most diversity possible. Our farm has ample secondary rainforest with a large native canopy. We rely on these forest corridors to support our soils in the cultivated orchard areas.
Peter

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Your question about Costa Rican soils doesn’t really seem to have anything to do with my post.
But anyway, the Central Valley of CR where most coffee is grown is known for volcanic soils.  Many other areas have poor, red soil. On my farm we have a brown, clay loam, which is pretty good.  But the soil is not the same everywhere.  Top soil can be very thin and fragile and where there have been recent landslides you get a lot if variety.
Tectonically, we’re very affected by the Nazca plate.  Sounds Peruvian…..
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Chempedak To Jackfruit
« on: July 27, 2025, 07:36:49 PM »
I don’t really like soft Jakfruit very much except dehydration. But champedek is different.  I sell them both and champedek gets the better price.  Champedek has zero latex in the fruit.  That’s a plus.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Chempedak To Jackfruit
« on: July 27, 2025, 04:19:11 PM »
It’s common that champedek seedlings start out well but have trouble transitioning to being supported by their root system. Thus it’s usually better to graft onto jak/champejak.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Chempedak To Jackfruit
« on: July 27, 2025, 08:20:32 AM »
Champedek on jackfruit rootstock is standard. If you can get it I prefer to use champejak but the regular jackfruit will work fine. I have some success with cleft graft on young rootstock and better with approach that I leave for about 8 weeks.
I also noticed at a nursery in Malaysia that they were using jackfruit rootstock for champedek grafts.
Peter

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Professor, I don’t know what you mean by weird.  I have an extensive collection of fruit trees and the vast majority are recalcitrant.  The fruit most commonly talked about on this forum, the mango, cannot germinate from a seed that has been completely dried out.  Not too sure about your use of the word “weird” for most of the seeds we work with.
Peter

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I’d start them in any tray or wide pot as a group, then transfer to individual pots as they germinate.  They should be kept moist but I would not keep them submerged in water.  I think it’s best for seeds to begin rooting into a medium similar to what they will eventually be planted in.
Peter

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On rather steep slopes we plant some hedges using glyrcidium or flemengia creating alleyways between the hedges for locating fruit trees.  The hedges trap the natural flow downhill, creating passive terraces.  The terraces are formed from nitrogen fixers and trap biomass and other nutrients that would otherwise continue downhill.  When the hedges are pruned the material is placed sideways just above the hedge. The trees in the spaces between the hedges then tend to feed where the nutrients are trapped.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pedalai, Huge tree but no fruit..
« on: June 27, 2025, 05:53:10 AM »
15m is about right. Should be soon.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus odoratissimus trunk damage
« on: June 26, 2025, 05:34:33 AM »
That’s unfortunate!
Really, I don’t think you have to do anything. That spot should cure alright. But if I were going to apply something in that case it would be calcium carbonate with a little copper sulphate.
Peter

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As far as the vanilla is concerned, I don’t have production comparisons right now but the growth looks the same in the 3 areas where I have plants. 
One of those areas has good soil underneath.  Another is too wet for my liking and the third has poor soil from a landslide.
But I have seen vanilla grown on cement or gravel in Mexico.  Then they support a medium of composting biomass that measure about70cm across and 30cm high.  That medium gets applications of all kinds of stuff.  The idea with having gravel underneath is to keep out any pathogens that might be in the soil.
Peter

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As far as carefully picking the right place, I’ve been lucky.  I realize now that sure, I’ve made some good choices, but things worked out on their own that might not have. 
Besides the good growing area you have to have somewhere you can sell the production.  I had a vision for that and everything came together.  The town became a tourist center.  Costa Ricans are terrific fruit buyers.  Panamanians are not fresh food buyers, for example, so I’m lucky there as well.
My farm and my work here is my passion and I will never retire.  But it’s a business and that fact strongly affects our decisions.

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It’s taken awhile but our place is profitable as an organic agroforestry farm.  It works because we grow stuff that gets a good price.  It’s a business.

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The fertilizers I am talking about are accepted as organic. Naturally produced potassium and rock phosphate are organic listed. Where you get into trouble is with urea, especially. We also use calcium, sulphur, all this qualifies as organic. Even copper sulfate.
Peter

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Nice video, you certainly are putting a lot of effort into this and your approach seems well thought out.
I’ve noticed at my farm that the soil quality varies significantly from area to area as well.  The area has a history of landslides and we had one five years ago that completely changed an area of 5000sq meters.  At first it was a soft, creepy moonscape.  Then some sections burste forth with growth while others to this day barely grow weak looking grass.  I replanted the areas of high weed growth with fruit trees and the result was amazing.  In 3-4 years I had production of sapodilla, canistel, terap, and others.  The areas that seemed unsuitable have been planted with vanilla and pitaya since they don’t really need soil.  Those epiphyts are on living posts with stakes around their base to hold the biomass they want.
Anyway, that’s a small scale solution to a good soil, bad soil solution.
On crops that produce high income we apply rock phosphate and magnesium sulfate.  We also apply manures and we apply laboratory produced lactic acid every two weeks unless it’s too dry.  Everywhere we apply microorganisms has biochar which we produce on the farm with a TLUD adapdted steel drum. 
I don’t think leaf cutter ants help in any way.  The leaves that they bring to the nest are all subsequently removed by them and decompose on top of the sterile hills they produce.
Saludos, Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durio connatus
« on: June 13, 2025, 12:00:52 PM »
Kutejensis can really vary.  We ate an excellent one in Tenom with the manager of the collection at the agricultural park.
Earlier this year in Central Kalimantan there was tons of Kutejensis for sale at stands.  We bought some and ate them and, not any good.  We’d see others with a very different presentation, and buy those.  It’s what the people were eating but it wasn’t to our taste.  The guide, Maryoto, said they were hybrids.  I don’t know how he knows that.  Many were split but the fruit was not fermented.  Eventually we did eat one that really was good.  I don’t know how those were harvested either.
I have a couple of these Kalimantan seedlings started, we’ll see.
Peter

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Personally, I would use microorganisms.  An EM type culture of lactic acid micros ot trachederma culture applied as a drench to the root feeding area and perhaps on the foliage as well.
Peter

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