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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Can these be identified by pictures?
« on: September 25, 2023, 12:00:21 AM »
I've had this brand before. Sometimes the box will say "Product of California" or "Product of Chile" the kumquats are nagami. Sometimes on the smaller side. I suspect the imported ones are gassed because although they are orange and appear ripe, they are bitter and taste soapy. I have 3 seedlings from those fruit and they appear the same as my mature potted nagami.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Earliest ripening citrus
« on: September 23, 2023, 06:58:11 PM »
Look up early satsumas. Xie Shan is one, takes a few years to produce very good quality fruits. Not for zone 7 though. Prague is the best bet for non-hybrid cold hardy citrus (it's a chimera). Fruit ripens Nov-Dec. Mine have survived 1 winter unprotected with some damage, zone 7a.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Late grafts are pushing now
« on: September 22, 2023, 11:42:16 AM »
Good idea, cutting the top should divert energy. I have liquid kelp/sea weed trace minerals and nitrogen for spray. And 0 N-10 P-10 K fish fertilizer.

I was thinking if I should I make it a small greenhouse, like a big plastic bottle with the top cut open?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Late grafts are pushing now
« on: September 21, 2023, 04:45:23 PM »
Here's some of the other grafts, they are either prague or morton. Tbuds that didn't push out. Pictures are from today. I forgot to label but easy to detect from leaves when they grow next season.








1 winter already survived:

Multi grafted taitri. Prague is the center trunk:


Prague trunk closeup




Prague on poncirus, 2 years old with 1 winter survived in ground. Grows very slowly. Rootstock is probably the culprit.




Prague on taitri, this was a small graft on a taitri branch inground I did last year that I thought died. The graft survived the winter and began to grow.
I clipped it off and rooted it with the branch. The left over branch on the tree I grafted with Bishop Citrandarin.


I will plant it out next spring, on taitri it will grow very fast compared to poncirus.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Late grafts are pushing now
« on: September 21, 2023, 04:24:47 PM »
Yes fresh photo, and that's the issue with this plant it's not hardened off yet but maybe I should cover it. There's still 1 month left of frost free weather.

My other Prague grafts are already established and have survived 1 winter in z7a.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Late grafts are pushing now
« on: September 20, 2023, 04:35:05 PM »
I did some mid summer tbud grafts on a bunch of poncirus year old trees and discovered this Prague graft pushed out. This must have been due to the heat wave we had earlier in the month. I topped the rootstock hoping it will help harden off. Leaving some of poncirus buds in case the Prague perishes.

I now have 4 actively growing grafts of Prague, 2 on poncirus and 2 on taitri... at this rate I will have an orchard lol






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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Thomasville v. Morton?
« on: September 17, 2023, 02:56:12 PM »
that looks below the graft, and is strongly trifoliate. the thomasville throws out mono and bi foliate leaves as well. so that is def the rootstock growing

whoops didn't notice the other branch, does it have a mix of mono and bi foliate leaves?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: any kadsura coccinea successfully planted ?
« on: September 16, 2023, 04:57:54 PM »
My kadsura survived it's first winter in zone 7a with damage but has recovered and is now growing a vine



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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Large poncirus and flying dragon in NJ arboretum
« on: September 16, 2023, 04:50:33 PM »
That tree is loaded, very nice. Can't wait to see my poncirus fruit, any hybrid really at this point it's been 3 years ⌛

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Large poncirus and flying dragon in NJ arboretum
« on: September 14, 2023, 11:41:48 AM »
To be honest I'm more interested in sampling the fruit of each. I prefer more vigorous rootstocks.

Unfortunately the parks in NJ are very anti-collection, so I'd recommend against taking any fruit but I suppose it's only an issue if you get caught (joking). I am not sure how PA is in that regard as I know people collect pawpaw fruit from parks without a problem! I'm not sure what they do with the excess fruit, I looked under the tree and it was relatively clean just a few small aborted fruit here and there, fruit is probably raked and discarded. I did not see any seedlings anywhere

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Large poncirus and flying dragon in NJ arboretum
« on: September 14, 2023, 07:15:41 AM »
Visited the Morristown arboretum and found 2 poncirus specimens and some other interesting rutaceae




















Flying dragon














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I grafted a seedling of a limequat, cotyledons still present and left leaves grafted it on a year old top worked grapefruit. I put a bottle over it in the shade and it the graft took.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inducing flowering in pomegranate
« on: August 19, 2023, 03:47:07 PM »
Nick were you able to get flowers from your Wonderful pom? My Russian26 finally made fruits from those late blooms. These are the bigger ones, I guess they will hang on until Novemeber or whenever we get a hard freeze. Should I assume they will be damaged at 28F like most fruit? I tasted some of the arils of a fruit that was knocked off and while it was acidic I didn't detect bitter or tannins so even if these do not ripen fully I can still use them.

Sorry for the blurry images, they are stills from a video






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I will have to keep up pruning so one variety doesn't take over. Ichang papeda is probably the most frost tender, I doubt it will take -18c but I am hoping that tai-tri is vigorous enough in the spring to help it grow and recover any damage like it did for the Prague

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Grafts growing well. Added Thomasville



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Citrus General Discussion / Re: New Kumquat Variety?
« on: August 05, 2023, 02:35:32 PM »
Was the plant smuggled from China? Just curious about citrus diseases. Otherwise if you guys really wanted it we could do a group buy, and cut scions from it. Would need a growing season or two though to put on some size for scions. Yeah maybe better to wait haha

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Turunji - A Citrus You Eat Like An Apple
« on: August 03, 2023, 09:41:14 PM »
I finally grafted a piece to sour orange.

I discovered that a local Hispanic grocery chain sells the sour orange fruit for less than a dollar each. It's used as a marinade in many recipes. But anyway I've got many year old seedlings sitting a pot. They pretty tolerant of neglect. 



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Citrus General Discussion / Thomasville citrangequat grafting
« on: July 27, 2023, 06:59:00 PM »
I received a scion from a trade and t-bud grafted some as well bark grafting Thomasville citrangequat onto the following:

Sour orange (bark graft in pot)
Poncirus (bark graft in pot & bud in ground)
Taitri (bark graft & bud in ground)
Citrumelo (bud in pot)

As well as a small cutting for rooting in cococoir.

These are late grafts and I don't expect the buds to push out, but the bark grafts where I top worked the rootstocks might. The potted stuff will go indoors over winter. The bark graft to taitri is very solid wood so I hope it is lignified enough, if it takes at all, to survive winter we'll see


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: July 24, 2023, 09:44:10 PM »
I've got two rooted plus a graft that looks half alive






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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Morton flowering again
« on: July 24, 2023, 04:18:24 PM »
I also did Morton x Meiwa pollen


 

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Morton flowering again
« on: July 24, 2023, 03:30:33 PM »
Well if fruit matures enough I will be planting them out and will know for sure.

The anthers didn't produce pollen so I know the fruit set either without it or with the Meyer pollen. Could still be nucellar though, and produce clones even with different pollen. If anyone knows about Morton they can chime in.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Morton flowering again
« on: July 23, 2023, 09:35:39 PM »
Mine flowered as a rooted cutting, I think I bought it in 2021. It gets root rotting in my wet media while indoors but recovers in the spring. I changed the pot to a smaller one and refreshed the potting mix with lots of perlite.

I finally grafted some to poncirus outside. Already have one on taitri and had one on citrumelo which didn't survive. So we'll see how they do on those rootstocks outdoors.

Good luck with your Morton 🍀

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: graftingg additional roots on trees
« on: July 23, 2023, 01:45:08 PM »
I made a video to show how I rescued my citrus medica turunji.
10 days after grafting with my baggie/bottle method the turunji is pushing. It seems really fast for a graft.

https://youtu.be/NlxhkhSfBb0

10 days later

https://youtube.com/shorts/wDYDq7Ve1Vc?feature=share

Changed over to a bottle because the wind kept using the bag as a sail ⛵


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Variegated bud sport citrumelo
« on: July 21, 2023, 05:52:40 PM »
right above the branch,  not sure if my picture loaded you can see it if you zoom in

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Morton flowering again
« on: July 20, 2023, 09:27:07 AM »
This is the third set of flowers since the spring. (The bottom of the plant has a small red center lime graft)

Only 1 fruit has held on, pollinated with fresh Meyer lemon pollen.










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