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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - Zone 7 or Colder
« Last post by Sir Graftalot on Today at 02:28:25 AM »
Quote from: svennagel97 on September 28, 2023, 07:52:08 AM
I‘m in zone 8a. I’m growing plinia clausa, escarlate, red, plinia aureana’branca Mel’ and plinia phitrantha ‘giant red crystal’. I keep them most of the time outdoors. From october til april I’m growing them in my grow boxes with constant temperatures above 20 degrees Celsius and humidity. So far my only fruiting Jabo is the escarlate. The others are growing pretty good for my climate. I even manage keep cocoa thriving in germany. So If you are able to grow under LEDs yours should withstand winter pretty good as well.
Thanks for the advice. Good to know LEDs will suffice. This is exactly how I plan to keep them during those months - in my basement with a humidifier under LEDs.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Valdosta Mulberry cuttings & Australian Green
« Last post by sc4001992 on Today at 01:52:43 AM »
Friday, 9/29, is the last day I will take orders for any mulberry cuttings. Rest will go into the dumpster.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical suggestions for a 5 acre orchard
« Last post by spaugh on Today at 01:49:47 AM »
I would tey growing some cherry trees.  They seem to grow well and are very hardy.  Should be an easy win. 
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical suggestions for a 5 acre orchard
« Last post by drymifolia on Today at 01:20:44 AM »
Quote from: Humboldt9aRiverBottomland on Today at 12:37:42 AM
Quote from: Tropheus76 on September 28, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
-lychee
-Longan
-Sapodilla
-'Dream' atemoya
-Macadamia
-Lemon Guava

None of these will survive 22 degrees. Most of them will not survive 30 degrees. Not sure on the others as I have not tried them myself. I dont think almonds particularly like cold weather either.

Curious why pecans wont do well, the temperature is perfect on the cold side. I know the groves in GA regularly get down to the lower 20s and teens. I lived in GA for a time near the groves areas. Is it the lack of 90+ degree weather?

I've read several places that Lemon Guava at least are hardy to 22F https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/yellow-strawberry-guava.htm

At least I'll have pineapple guava for sure!

You should also be able to grow Psidium longipetiolatum without much trouble, and some people say it tastes even better than its close cousin the lemon guava. I've never had the fruit, and likely never will unless I dig mine up and move it to the greenhouse.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical suggestions for a 5 acre orchard
« Last post by Humboldt9aRiverBottomland on Today at 01:18:18 AM »
Quote from: fruitnut1944 on September 28, 2023, 01:15:12 PM
Pecans do best with a long warm growing season. Like 4-5 months with highs of 90+ and 240 frost free days. Northern coastal influenced CA has a long enough season but is severely lacking in heat. Even areas of CA in the central valleys are better for almonds and walnuts than pecan. Filberts would be a better nut crop for that area than pecan. Filberts do well in the Willamette valley. The location in question here has a climate similar to Portland OR.

Yup! Planning to grow a few dozen hazelnut bushes, along with American chestnuts!

Quote from: spaugh on September 28, 2023, 02:08:58 PM
Pretty much all the subrtropical stuff needs lots of heat. 

From this list its doubtful any of these would do well excpt maybe lemon guava.  Just being honest.

You are much better off growing things suited for your climate that other farmers are having good results with.

-Lychee
-Longan
-Sapodilla
-'Dream' atemoya
-Macadamia
-Lemon Guava
-Blue Passionfruit
-Pistachio
-Date Palm
-'Ice Cream' Banana
-Almond

Looking forward to that lemon guava. Do you know if Chilean Guava might do well? I have a long list of temperate perennial crops I'm really excited to grow (figs, paw paw, mayhaw, many rare apple varieties, maybe a little citrus, etc..) so I'm OK without most subtropicals. If I get a greenhouse I'll have a ton of options though!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical suggestions for a 5 acre orchard
« Last post by Humboldt9aRiverBottomland on Today at 12:37:42 AM »
Quote from: Tropheus76 on September 28, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
-lychee
-Longan
-Sapodilla
-'Dream' atemoya
-Macadamia
-Lemon Guava

None of these will survive 22 degrees. Most of them will not survive 30 degrees. Not sure on the others as I have not tried them myself. I dont think almonds particularly like cold weather either.

Curious why pecans wont do well, the temperature is perfect on the cold side. I know the groves in GA regularly get down to the lower 20s and teens. I lived in GA for a time near the groves areas. Is it the lack of 90+ degree weather?

I've read several places that Lemon Guava at least are hardy to 22F https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/yellow-strawberry-guava.htm

At least I'll have pineapple guava for sure!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Requesting tips for germinating Spondias seeds
« Last post by sooperken on Today at 12:33:11 AM »
Hello fruit experts...

I've tried some techniques for germinating SPONDIAS:  pre-soaking, sand papering the seeds (I read an article online), heat pads, humidity domes, sunlight, etc.
Airy potting mix with perlite and vermiculite... also tried the seed on top of the soil, covered with perlite.
I have had no success... I thought maybe all the Spondias seeds on Tradewinds were old and unviable; but I also purchased seeds from other sources and had similar results.

How many months should I wait for germination, before disposing of the seeds?
It's difficult to tell if they are alive or rotten, since they are so woody & dense.

Can anybody offer up suggestions or tips for germinating SPONDIAS?

Much appreciated!
-sooperKEN 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: new Wax Apple / Jambu variety "Mận Hồng MST" (aka "Mận Hồng Sóc Trăng")
« Last post by greg_D on Today at 12:22:36 AM »
I think people make up trade names for these varieties when they sell them in English speaking markets. I would just keep the original name to avoid future confusion.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge bunch of Goldfinger bananas
« Last post by hammer524 on September 28, 2023, 11:25:19 PM »
Quote from: BestDay on September 28, 2023, 10:15:10 PM
Hammer, my growing conditions are very different than yours. I don’t know what would grow or taste best in your intense heat. Here in my very mild coastal SoCal conditions I really like Goldfinger, Dwarf Brazilian and Mysore. I have yet to try my Dwarf Red, Gros Michel or Raja Puri.

Bill

Guess ill have to try it out for myself :) I'm leaning towards the Gros Michel or the dwarf variety of it "highland" for the novelty of it being the past commercial banana.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona deceptrix for sale
« Last post by Nick C on September 28, 2023, 11:19:33 PM »
Quote from: mikesid on September 28, 2023, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: Nick C on September 28, 2023, 09:35:17 AM
Quote from: Epicatt2 on September 28, 2023, 03:30:25 AM
Nick,

Is it known wheter this species is self-fertile or . . . ?

I'm sure it's unlikely, but is there any sense of this species' cold tolerance?

And lastly, what does it taste like?

Trying to decide if I want to try one of these.

Paul M.
==

Honestly not too much information out there on this one. I would believe it to be self fertile but don’t quote me on that. There’s an older thread on here in regards to deceptrix and it’s says it was found 1600 ft above sea level and tastes similar to soursop


Quote from: Nick C on September 28, 2023, 11:38:57 AM
Quote from: mikesid on September 28, 2023, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nick C on September 28, 2023, 09:52:27 AM
Grafted temoylata added

nice looking graft! is that 47-18?

Thanks Mike, I think temoylata is interchangeable with 47-18 and red geffner or do I have that wrong ?

I may be wrong but I believe a temoylata is any atemoya x reticulata not just specific to 47-18…

4-5 was a temoylata too I think..Priestly atemoya x  Fairchild Purple reticulata…Maybe Har could confirm.

ahh gotcha interested to see what that other variety looks like, sounds like it would look pretty cool
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