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Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« on: June 26, 2021, 08:42:36 PM »
Last year I crossed one of Brad Spaugh's Red Rovers with one of my Incarnatas... this is the result so far:

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2021, 09:08:38 PM »
is red rover an edulis cultivar?

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2021, 09:50:16 PM »
wow that is awesome! any idea if it's fertile yet/ can produce a fruit? wonder if inherited any cold hardiness from the incarnata

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2021, 10:28:55 PM »
Yes Red Rover is an Edulis...



Incarnata:



I'm hoping to get some cold hardiness from the Incarnata and tasty fruit of the Red Rover.

No fruit so far... but they have just started blooming.

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2021, 12:55:23 AM »
You already sell plants
Would you swap a tad bit of pollen off I'd buy.
To back cross to P. Incarnata


I am sending my address , in PM  ..

I thought Incarnata was a Different chromosome count
if this bears fruit I would be interested if the seeds sprout ..
(if you'd revisit to say later, but still interested now in pollen)

If the pollen didn't work out for me b/c of the genes
 I'd take the loss of cash, but would like to attempt.
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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2021, 06:46:36 AM »
I applied Rover pollen to Incarnata and got 1 fruit to set.



3 seeds from the fruit germinated... and I have all 3 growing in individual containers... Named and numbered.
So far they all have similar leaf characteristics... as yet... only one has bloomed.

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2021, 09:46:47 PM »
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but the fruit in the picture is not P. 'Red Rover'.  Most likely it is a seedling of P. 'Red Rover', if it is at all related to that cultivar.
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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2021, 11:33:16 PM »
No bubble bursted... we cool!

Let's just call it Brad's Red Rover.

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2021, 01:16:49 AM »
Its not my red rover it's the red rover that's being mass propagated by morrow bay.  This is what everyone in the world except maybe Bob has as red rover.  We have been through this before.  I understand it may be not what Bob originally called red rover but whatever clone they are using is what now everyone is selling as red rover and matches every description of red rover available on the web.  Its red rover either way at this point. 
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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2021, 07:40:12 AM »
I thought we'd been down this road before... thanks Brad.

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2021, 01:03:34 PM »
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but the fruit in the picture is not P. 'Red Rover'.  Most likely it is a seedling of P. 'Red Rover', if it is at all related to that cultivar.

Brad, and even moreso Kevin, are not cool enough to have true Red Rover, and are like people who wore knock off Calvin Klein and Sergio Valente jeans in the 80's and 90's.

Might send them cuttings one day; depends on how cool they become.

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2021, 01:04:53 PM »
Bob, where can one acquire some cuttings of the real red rover?  Do you still have a plant? 
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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2021, 04:02:17 PM »
this red rover that the nurseries sell is a really nice plant.  i used to have an awesome one that got into my top septic line so I removed it.  today I made a trip to the local nursery for some bags of dirt and went and looked for this red rover plant.  Found a 5gal replacement plant yay!


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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2021, 01:13:43 PM »
I guess I'll have to work on my Cool-Factor...

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2021, 01:54:51 PM »
Growing fruit Doesn't have a Appeal it should
I brought it up around college girls, and some guy got very Macho.

They need to make a Movie Where the main Character Takes care of His orchard,
and is a bad Ass that fights off the Mexican Mafia looking to exploit his profits through extortion  !

Keven Jones Is a Very Hollywood sounding type Name I'm sure You'd have cool factor then.
The Plot could use some working like Indiana Jones
where you go discover New fruits to introduce to the world ,
 and the Mexican Mafia is all in your head ,
 but that leaves out the bad ass aspect of it.











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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2021, 04:53:54 PM »
Nice Brad... the advantage of living in SoCal...

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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2021, 07:56:20 PM »
Growing fruit Doesn't have a Appeal it should
I brought it up around college girls, and some guy got very Macho.

They need to make a Movie Where the main Character Takes care of His orchard,
and is a bad Ass that fights off the Mexican Mafia looking to exploit his profits through extortion  !

Keven Jones Is a Very Hollywood sounding type Name I'm sure You'd have cool factor then.
The Plot could use some working like Indiana Jones
where you go discover New fruits to introduce to the world ,
 and the Mexican Mafia is all in your head ,
 but that leaves out the bad ass aspect of it.











Not to say The picture represents you
just the part you'd play being delusional thinking the mafia was after you.

Anyone that crosses our Native Passiflora incarnata with a Edulis is cool in my book
and would interest me to hear a flavor growing report 
(why I asked for pollen to give me a heads start in back crossing ).

Just meant gardeners can have stigma ,
but some of the hardest working, and hardcore  people are into this s###.
This is why I go for only farms dating breed some mean tough kids, and to protect me.
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Re: Incarnata X Red Rover Passion Flower Starts Blooming
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2021, 05:00:58 PM »
Today a second of the three plants bloomed.... this one has a darker more pronounced color.
More similar to the Incarnata blooms
Plant 01:



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