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Garcinia ID
« on: July 16, 2016, 09:56:32 AM »
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I'm getting a seed from this one apparently comes from Puerto Rico from the Finca of a man call Felipe, who I was told passed away few months ago, got reports that the flavor is not sweet and acid like in Achachairu, but more neutral...
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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2016, 06:59:23 PM »
Raul maybe is Garcinia sp. Rusty.

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2016, 07:25:03 PM »
Looks like G. macrophylla Raul.

It's not gardneriana, intermedia, achachairu, edulis, or madruno.
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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2016, 07:44:45 PM »
Raul maybe is Garcinia sp. Rusty.

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2016, 08:01:40 PM »
Actually, after examining the rind closer... it doesn't look like macrophylla either. I think you might have Garcinia sp. described as "Madrono de Monte"... or it could be some other variant of madrono. There seems to be a variety of bumpy/rough skin garcinias named as a "madrono". Sadhu sells different types. Yours could be another variant?

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2016, 08:19:50 PM »
Helloo,

A garcinia freak over here. I got a couple of those trees. The local name or the name Felipe named it is Garcinia Pungara. Flavor is pretty similar to achachairu just a bit more acidic but bigger in size. Fruit usually contains 3 seeds. Im gonna try attaching a picture so lets see if it works




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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 08:26:16 PM »
Garcinus in the house!  Thanks for the pics and info!
Helloo,

A garcinia freak over here. I got a couple of those trees. The local name or the name Felipe named it is Garcinia Pungara. Flavor is pretty similar to achachairu just a bit more acidic but bigger in size. Fruit usually contains 3 seeds. Im gonna try attaching a picture so lets see if it works



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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2016, 08:28:58 PM »
A couple more pics !






I don't know how they got to the conclusion thats is neutral in taste. I found it AWESOME ! And good flesh to seed ratio.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 08:52:09 PM »
A couple more pics !






I don't know how they got to the conclusion thats is neutral in taste. I found it AWESOME ! And good flesh to seed ratio.

That's it! Thanks garcinus. Guess we can call it G. Pungara if that is what Felipe named it

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 08:54:34 PM »
I believe it's not yet described as a species, so it would be, Garcinia sp. "Pungara"
A couple more pics !






I don't know how they got to the conclusion thats is neutral in taste. I found it AWESOME ! And good flesh to seed ratio.

That's it! Thanks garcinus. Guess we can call it G. Pungara if that is what Felipe named it
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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 09:00:25 PM »
Yeah it's not described, just like Luc's. "Pungara" it is

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2016, 09:11:55 PM »
My friends
I have Pungara and this Garcinia from Felipe in Puerto Rico.The trees are different.
I 've tried the two Garcinias and are different, but the man who could identify died in March
I will send those photos and one seed to Raúl from PR

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2016, 09:50:31 PM »
My friends
I have Pungara and this Garcinia from Felipe in Puerto Rico.The trees are different.
I 've tried the two Garcinias and are different, but the man who could identify died in March
I will send those photos and one seed to Raúl from PR

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Hey Abimael,
Could you post some pics of your pungara ? I wonders how yours look ?

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 10:06:10 PM »
Interesting. So possibly a two different trees we are talking about here. Would be helpful if abimael and garcinus post photos of their trees to see if match?

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 11:08:10 PM »
Hi friends
I dont know how to post a photo on the forum.
I saw adults trees on the estate of Felipe but I have not photos. I have 3 small Pungara trees and small of this Garcinia. The fruit of that Pungara has well pronounced bumps, it maybe a variation, I had never seen this Pungara fruit anywhere. I had a picture of that Pungara but do not get it.
I saw some photos of Garcinia sp Rusty in this web
http://picssr.com/photos/69028902@N00/interesting/page6?nsid=69028902@N00

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2016, 12:33:39 AM »
Hi friends
I dont know how to post a photo on the forum.
I saw adults trees on the estate of Felipe but I have not photos. I have 3 small Pungara trees and small of this Garcinia. The fruit of that Pungara has well pronounced bumps, it maybe a variation, I had never seen this Pungara fruit anywhere. I had a picture of that Pungara but do not get it.
I saw some photos of Garcinia sp Rusty in this web
http://picssr.com/photos/69028902@N00/interesting/page6?nsid=69028902@N00

It does look like the "Rusty" garcinia sp. in that link

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2016, 12:50:55 AM »
What became of Felipe's property in PR? Should be preserved...

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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2016, 02:02:54 AM »
I think tropicfruithunter visited it on his latest trip to Puerto Rico.

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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2016, 04:29:05 AM »
Im pretty sure that all the fruit's pictures are the same fruit. I only have seedlings and i will try to post pics of them in the afternoon. Also, Abimael can you describe the pungara you had, like shape and flavor.


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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2016, 11:57:45 AM »
Im pretty sure that all the fruit's pictures are the same fruit. I only have seedlings and i will try to post pics of them in the afternoon. Also, Abimael can you describe the pungara you had, like shape and flavor.
Hi all you gays for your input, the pics I got from Abimael and Garcinius "Pungara" look similar to me, however Abimael describes flavor like Achachairu but with no acidity, and Garcinius says more acid than Achachairu, maybe just different ripening of the fruit, also Abimael has seen 2 dif.  Trees, it also could he a variation of "dwfl"  pics of madroño de monte, just less bumpy and with the longer nipped at the end...
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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2016, 12:12:53 PM »
I found this pic where looks Felipe call this one "Pungara" and looks different from the Garcinia sp. Rusty maybe that explain the difference in flavor
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2016, 01:52:04 PM »
Raul that pic looks like macrophylla
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2016, 02:32:59 PM »
Raul that pic looks like macrophylla

Yeah stretch/crack marks on the rind. No rough/bumpy surface of the rind either. Different from the original fruit photo Raul posted.

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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2016, 08:00:11 PM »
This is one of my seedlings



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Re: Garcinia ID
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2016, 12:57:16 PM »
Hi friends
dwfl the Felipe's property is for sale ( half million dollar)
Raul I was figuring out with my friend David from Montoso Garden and told me that photos of machabuca are the fruits photos of Felipe.
He tells me that the picture of that fruit should be on that page.
The Pungara of Felipe have similar flavor of giant madroño
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