Author Topic: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?  (Read 1036 times)

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Can asian persimmons be successfully grafted onto American persimmon? Any tips?

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2022, 04:16:11 AM »
https://fruitandnuteducation.ucanr.edu/fruitnutproduction/Persimmon/Persimmon_Scion_Rooststock_Selection/

Kaki persimmons can be grafted to Kaki, American and D. lotus.
Some info on above link.
It is recommended not to graft non astringent Kaki varieties to rootstock seedlings of astringent Kaki varieties. Mainly fruit quality reasons.
Not sure how this relates to D.kaki on D. virginiana ( American ).
Are American Persimmon fruit astringent ?  The fruit is not seen much in Australia.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2022, 03:08:48 PM by pagnr »

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2022, 11:05:00 AM »
https://fruitandnuteducation.ucanr.edu/fruitnutproduction/Persimmon/Persimmon_Scion_Rooststock_Selection/
Are American Persimmon fruit astringent ?  The fruit is not seen much in Australia.

I can verify that all American types are astringent. Some American persimmons are less astringent than others. People who favor American persimmons say the Asian types are bland in comparison.

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2022, 11:51:36 AM »
I'm pretty sure my jiro fuyu is grafted to American persimmon so yes

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2022, 08:13:11 AM »
All the grafted noes commercial made are on american rootsock as american is better adapted for soil and climate

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2022, 08:50:43 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2022, 02:00:08 AM »
Diospyros lotus is compatible with all astrigent D.kaki and with  non-astringent D.kaki -JIRO, but generally speaking D.lotus is incompatible with pcna type kaki. The incompatibility can be overcome by using an astringent type kaki as interstock.

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2022, 01:29:39 PM »
Diospyros lotus is compatible with all astrigent D.kaki and with  non-astringent D.kaki -JIRO, but generally speaking D.lotus is incompatible with pcna type kaki. The incompatibility can be overcome by using an astringent type kaki as interstock.

Very interesting

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Re: Can asian, non-astrigent persimmons be grafted on American persimmon?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2023, 10:41:39 PM »
The persimmons in Florida are small and astringent, when ripe they taste like weird cinnamon pumpkin.