The Tropical Fruit Forum

I will echo that Marco's Argentinian species are more cold hardy than my other jabos, and flush out earlier, but again, I do not believe these to be revolutionary results. At best you're going to get +5f more temperature resistance is my guess.

You have folks like NissanVersa saying they lost massive mature jabos to 17f. So say you somehow had a lujan or campo with a 6" trunk - you'd lose it at 12f. You now mention you go below zero.

Sorry, but I think this is a rather foolish exercise and I don't get it. My jabos really suffer in 9b already.

Yangmei seedlings, with trunks only a few millimetres wide, don't even blink in 27-30f here, even being 100% under snow. I would suggest that they'll be winners out there.

Quote from: NissanVersa on April 17, 2024, 08:06:02 PM

Im in zone 8b/9a and I lost a 12 year old Sabara in 17f freeze. 6 inch diameter trunk, 9ft tall.  It was big and protected. Had some more frost hardy jabos I was able to protect better and move the pots but they also were bitten a bit.  Folks are right, one hard snap at these lows and jabos are donezo.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear. Would it be possible if I dig it up at the first sign of trouble?

I don't get this. Just leave it in a pot and bring it in.

Thanks mods / admins!

Folks in 8a/8b lose almost all the growth from the season off of their Campo Ramons. I know of one in Seattle and one outside on Vancouver Island. Waiting for Spring updates from them.

I don't see the point for 7a / 7b outdoors with no protection. Maybe 50% of the years they'd survive, but that one brutal frost and they're donezo.

Quote from: K-Rimes on April 16, 2024, 01:48:34 PM

They are different in growth habit, and fruit. I have striatulum, I like it, good fruit with stinky guava flavor and soft flesh. It's definitely guajava-esque, but a more robust flavor which I am into. Other people have gotten bad genetics or something and say the fruit tastes bad. I count myself lucky.

The nano-leaf looks like guajava style fruit with some tiny leaves.

The "nana" looks like a dwarf guajava with standard leaves but small port.

So they're all different. Thanks for the clarification, K-Rimes. Do you happen to know if any of these are graft compatible with the typical guava?

With a name like Sir Graftalot, you should be the resource on this one!

I kid. I am finding basically all psidium within a reasonable window of relationship will work with each other. I have been getting guineense onto guajava successfully, which suggests that all of these should be compatible.

I did try striatulum onto guajava last year, which did not take, but I would chalk that up to me making a mistake. I will probably try again this year.

Very few fruits here in SB county, even on the most reliable and productive trees there are only a scant few racks of loquat on them. Very strange. I hear the same for almost all of SoCal.

Drought and Amazon are two words I would hope to never see in the same sentence.

Frightening.

Rainforests all over the world are in rough shape. The Amazon is but one of them. BC in Canada where I'm originally from is about to enter the worst drought in recorded snow history. Their snowpack is at an all time low, and it is the second year in a row that it is low which will compound this year's issues. My family had to water cedar trees around their property so they didn't die last year... Going to be a doozy this year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-snowpack-april-2024-drought-river-forecast-centre-1.7169544

Meanwhile, in Santa Barbara, CA we've had the most rain in a 2 year period, breaking our 1951 record.

It's not just hotter, but things are just plain weird, and extreme.

The only guava I know of with leaves like that, and red interstem, is Cas guava. It's a real looker, whatever it is.

The "caatinga" is definitely of the Guineense complex, rounded leaves. Not veiny.

Looking good Mike! Those little leaf varieties have been slow going for me too, I have a few from David, but they're doing ok now that it has warmed up and it's Spring(ish) here. 39f last night though, and they're outdoors. :|

I'll get some more photos of the guava gang today

Do you know which guineense you have K-rimes?

Don't know, but these are big yellow fruit, and fruit in bunches, which matches up with "Caatinga". I also have a "morango" guineense that is doing pretty well in a 5g, it may fruit this Fall, and then I got that pack of seedlings from David too - but many died due to fungal issues in my greenhouse. I only have I think 3 guineense varieties from that batch that survived winter. I know Caatinga is one of them. I would happily have another, great fruit.

It was interesting visiting Kelly recently, many of his guavas he said tasted bad are ones I like. His striatulum was awful, he said, mine is pretty pleasant. I have punishing winters which also is not great for guava ripening... Dunno. The Guineense is great for a variety of reasons, one of which is that it's continuing to flower and Nate reports it flowers and produces almost all year. This is crucial for me with zone pushing location cause it'll get the heat it needs to ripen properly.

Myrtoides sucks!


Guineense IS AWESOME