The Tropical Fruit Forum

I bought a 13-1 mango seedling from Alex at Tropical Acres Farms in FL four months ago.  I've been waiting a long time for the 13-1 to become available.  It's a rootstock they use in Israel that tolerates salty high pH desert soil better.

Mine has been planted in the ground for only 3.5 months now.  At first it gradually dropped half of it's leaves.  I was thinking #$%@ it's even worst than all the other mangos I've tried.  I know some people grow mangos ok here in Phoenix, but mangos seem to dislike my soil more than usual.  Don't blame my skills because I can grow loquat, nectarines and starfruit here that other people struggle with.

But then it started flushing new growth.  It's on its 3rd growth flush now in 110F+ Phoenix heat.  It gets about 6 hours of full sun in the middle of the day, so it's shade by the house before 3pm. 

Is the 13-1 mango "a new hope" for us in the Southwest or just a new hype by yours truly?!

Here's a pic of it giving the Arizona Sun the middle finger:

Has anyone tried this Mihrio mandarin?  CCPP says it's seedy then shows pics of a seedless fruit??
They need to clean up their conflicting info and broken links on their website.
https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc4248

I have a 4 years in the ground Chislett navel orange.  This is the second year it's set fruit and it's already very good.  It's tastier than Washington and almost as good as Cara Cara.

It might be the best late navel variety according the UC research.  Much later season than the popular Lane Late navel and less granulation problems.  My experience is it's tastier and more productive than Frost Washington navel.  Also it's juice won't turn bitter like Washington due to lower limonin!  The only drawback like Cara Cara is that it's harder to peel.

Too bad some nursery bought the exclusive rights to it in the US, so CCPP can't offer it's budwood anymore.  Does anyone know if these rights expire?  If so, When?

Has anyone tried the patented Kinnow LS and Fairchild LS mandarin varieties?  They were available from CCPP for a short time years ago.  According to google patent search, their patents expire around 2030.  I was lucky to get Daisy Seedless wood from CCPP before they sold the license.  It is excellent and very low seeded.

Does anyone have super puffy Kishu fruit with lots of air inside?
My Kishu fruits don't look much like normal Kishu pics on google. 
The one in the pic is better than most.
Could it be due to Phoenix climate or rootstock?

When you buy a Tarocco blood orange tree from a nursery is it likely to be a Tarocco#7 or some older standard Tarocco variety that's been around the citrus industry?
If they're different is the Tarocco#7 better?

Hi all, I grow loquats in Phoenix.  I've had many loquat trees die in the summer. 
Selecting the right varieties is most important.  Some varieties are much more heat tolerant than others. 
Generally speaking orange flesh varieties are hardier than yellow flesh and white flesh is the weakest. 
But flesh color does not guarantee heat tolerance. 
Big Jim, McBeth, Argelino, Kanko can take full sun in a cool spot in my yard after one year in ground. 
Novak, Bradenton, Tanaka need afternoon shade. 
Christmas, Champagne, Ed's Delight need shade from late morning. 
Vista White needs shade all day long.
Loquats need water everyday in the summer until established, then every two or three days and water deeply.
Finally, loquats from cuttings are weaker than grafted trees with a tap root.

What other varieties and tips would you recommend?

Has anyone grown or tasted these oranges?  How good are they?
I found bits of info on fruitmentor, UCR and other sites, but I would like to hear first hand experiences.

My 15ft tall Panama Berry was killed to the ground by a 26F freeze.  Will it regrow from the roots?
If not I will need to replace it because it is used for providing afternoon shade and humidity for other trees in the Phoenix summer.

Looking for B-10 carambola scions.

I'm willing to buy or trade. This is what I have in budwood, but a few are seedlings:
 
Stone fruits - black boy, mid pride, florida prince, eva's pride, tropic snow, santa barbara, august pride, artic star, flavor grenade, splash, emerald drop
Figs - Col de Dame Blanc, Negronne, Desert King, Adriatic JH, Panache, Marseille Black vs
Pomegranates - Parfianka, Ariana, Purple Heart, Desertnyi, Gissarski Rozovyi
Persimmon - giant hanafuyu, fuyu
Apples - fuji, williams pride, tropic sweet, sundowner (cripps red)
Avocado - Mexicola, Day
Loquat - mcbeth, tanaka, argelino, novak, kanko
Mulberry - cooke's pakistan, tice, tehama, shangri la, black beauty, gerardi
Che melonberry
Jujube - sugarcane, shanxi li, sihong, chico, tigertooth, autumn beauty, black sea, taiwan giant(Indian)
Guavas - peruvian, mexican cream, ong, arabian, taiwan, crystal
Pineapple Guava - nazemetz, mammoth, apollo
Star fruit - kari, fwang tung, sri kembangang, bell
White Sapote - vernon, rainbow, malibu #3, walton, redlands
Sapodilla - alano, silas woods, makok
Mango - mallika, carrie, Maha Chanok, duncan, fairchild, pickering, ice cream, amrapali, honey kiss, rosigold
Longan - Kohala, biwe kiew, fortune eye
Jambolan (java plum)
Guabiju
Wampee - Chi Hsin (guy sam / chicken heart), rock candy
Monkey Orange - spiny(Strychnos Spinosa)
Imbe
Mexican Garcinia (Luc's)
Psidium Guineense
Eugenia - Surinam, Pitangatuba, Cherry otRG
Orangeberry (Gin Berry)
Marula - female, male
Guamuchil
Barbados Cherry
Bael fruit

Hi All,
Is Lucuma compatible with Canistel rootstock long term?
Does anyone know of a healthy Lucuma on Canistel rootstock?
Canistel can grow in a large container here in Phoenix, AZ, but Lucumas die for some reason.
Lucumas die even before it gets hot.  It might be the very hard water or some public water chemical or something.
Using a tougher rootstock makes more sense than trying to use filtered water.

Thank you for any info,
Steve

Is it possible to graft Cherry of the Rio Grande to Surinam Cherry rootstock?
Has this been done?
I'm curious because Surinam Cherry grows okay in our crappy calcareous Arizona soil.  Other Eugenias can't grow here without tons of compost or sulfur.
Also Surinam Cherry is one of the most widely available Eugenia seedlings in the USA.

Hi All,

Short story is I'm looking for a CDD Blanc plant and have many fruit tree scions for exchange.

The long story is I got a CDD Gris three years ago and now know that it's not a good choice for Phoenix AZ due to the eye being open. I did my research before and read somewhere that CDD Gris has a closed eye so I went with the Gris. Wrong, it has an open eye here in Phoenix that allows the sour fruit beetle in. These pests don't spare any figs

I should have figured this out a year ago had I not planted the CDD Gris near a large eucalyptus tree. Well I found out figs can't tolerate eucalyptus like the white mulberry can and had to replant it elsewhere. I figured fig and mulberry are related and both have aggressive root systems, so why not. The CDD Gris and a Janice Seedless were totally stunted next to the eucalyptus tree, but grew well after moving them away.

Figs - Col de Dame Noir, Violette de Bordeaux, Desert King, Hardy Chicago, Panache

Pomegranates - Parfianka, Sirenevyi, Angel Red, Ariana, Purple Heart, Granada, Desertnyi, Gissarski Rozovyi, Wonderful

Citrus - sarawak, tahitian pummelo, chinese pomelo, cocktail grapefruit, chandler, moro, sanguinelli, tarocco blood, smith red, trovita, maceterra, jincheng, salustiana, olinda valencia, marrs, minneola, page, daisy seedless, gold nugget, sudachi, meyer, santa teresa, boukhaopza blood, valentine, cara cara, lane late, shiranui / dekopan, hirado buntan pink, wekiwa, oro blanco, sudachi, eustis

Apples - fuji, williams pride, sundowner (cripps red)

Stone fruits - black boy, mid pride, florida prince, eva's pride, tropic snow, santa barbara, august pride, desert dawn, artic star, flavor grenade, splash, emerald drop

Persimmon - giant hanafuyu, fuyu, wase fuyu
Loquat - mcbeth, tanaka, avri, argelino
Mulberry - cooke's pakistan, tice, tehama
Che melonberry
Jujube - sugarcane, shanxi li, sihong, chico, tigertooth, redlands 4, winter delight / mango
Passion Fruit - Frederick, Purple Possum
Guavas - peruvian, mexican cream, ong, arabian, taiwan, tikal, bassateen edfina
Pineapple Guava - nazemetz, mammoth
Star fruit - kari, fwang tung, sri kembegang
White Sapote - vernon, rainbow, malibu #3, walton, redlands, nettie
Sapodilla - alano, silas woods
Mango - mallika, carrie, Maha Chanok, duncan, fairchild, pickering, ice cream, amrapali, edgar
Kohala Longan
Jambolan (java plum)
Guabiju
Wampee - Chi Hsin (guy sam / chicken heart), Seedless
Imbe
Monkey Orange - spiny(Strychnos Spinosa), corky bark (Strychnos cocculoides)
Mexican Garcinia (Luc's)
Psidium Guineense
Pitangatuba
Orangeberry (Gin Berry)
Marula - female, male
Guamuchil

Thanks,
Steve

If you have a Novak loquat tree you can ship to Arizona or scion wood.  I'm willing to trade or buy.
I have many temperate and tropical fruit trees:
 
Figs - Col de Dame Noir, Violette de Bordeaux, Peters Honey, Hardy Chicago, Panache,
 
Pomegranates - Parfianka, Sirenevyi, Angel Red, Ariana, Purple Heart, Granada, Desertnyi, Gissarski Rozovyi
 
Citrus - tahitian / sarawak pummelo, hirado buntan pink, chinese pomelo, cocktail grapefruit, chandler, moro, tarocco blood, trovita, maceterra, jincheng, salustiana, olinda valencia, marrs, minneola, page, daisy seedless, gold nugget, kishu seedless, sudachi, meyer, santa teresa, boukhaopza blood, rotuma island, valentine, cara cara, shiranui / dekopan
 
Apples - fuji, williams pride, goldrush, king david, king of tompkins county, sundowner (cripps red)
 
Stone fruits - black boy, may pride, florida prince, eva's pride, red baron, tropic snow, santa barbara, august pride, earlitreat, artic star, flavor grenade, splash, flavor delight, spice zee, weeping santa rosa, emerald drop
 
Pears - hosui, shinko, shin li, raja, seuri, yoinashi
Persimmon - hana fuyu, izu, chocolate, suruga
Loquat - mcbeth, tanaka, avri
Mulberry - cooke's pakistan, white, dwarf everbearing, persian, noir de sapin
Jujube - sugarcane, shanxi li, winter delight / mango
Passion Fruit - Frederick, Purple Possum
Guavas - barbie pink, peruvian, mexican cream, many more
Pineapple Guava - nazemetz, mammoth
Star fruit - kari, fwang tung, sri kembegang
White Sapote - vernon, rainbow, malibu #3, walton, nettie, redlands
Sapodilla - alano, silas woods, hasya
Mango - lemon zest, coconut cream, sweet tart, mallika, carrie, Maha Chanok
Kohala Longan
Jambolan (java plum)
Guabiju
Chi Hsin Wampee (guy sam / chicken heart)
Imbe
Monkey Orange - spiny(Strychnos Spinosa), corky bark (Strychnos cocculoides)
Mexican Garcinia (Luc's)
Psidium Guineense
Pitangatuba
Eugenia Candolleana
Orangeberry (Gin Berry)
Lucuma - de seda, de palo
Marula - female, male