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I have Pickering, Carrie, Sweet Tart, Florigon, choc anon, NDM, Keitt, Edward, Venus, Graham, Lemon Zest, Fruit punch, PPK, Maha Chanok, and an unidentified mango CV still holding. It's an unusual year though - still have those early ones with fruit...

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Since you asked, these would be the mango trees I would have in my yard:
 
1. Rosigold for ultra early season mango
2. Pickering or M4(productivity?) or sugar loaf(productivity?) for coconut flavor mango. (Pickering get watered down flavor with rain) Coco cream doesn't produce well for me.
3. Carrie - just one of the best flavored mangoes ever- but you should try it first.
4. Lemon zest or Orange sherbet (OS supposed to be more disease resistant) - for citrus flavored mango
5. Sweet Tart - in a league all its own
6. Maha Chanok for productive asian type mango.
7. Fruit punch - for fruit flavored mango.

And I think Keitt is the best late season mango out there with traditional flavor. These should give you something to think about but try them first if you have the opportunity. No one ever really agrees on the best mango :) There used to be a thread on the mango GOAT...I believe lemon zest and sweet tart were the top two contenders at the time.

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I've never tried dwarf hawaiian, but I like the Rosigold flavor. Clean flavor with some sub acid and good texture, sometimes I detect hints of vanilla.

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1. Rosigold - earliest mango I have - decent flavor, good disease resistance and productive.
2. pickering - great little tree, earlier season, coconut flavor
3. LZ - love the fruit, haven't had too many issues with disease. Just make sure you spray the blooms with sulfur.
4. Sweet tart - Great flavor and productivity
5. Carrie - just one of my favorites flavorwise, always a healthy tree. sometimes good crops and sometimes small crops, but have 3 sources from my yard.
6. Honeykiss(productivity), M4(good coconut flavor) or Keitt(good size and very late) for late season mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tree question
« on: July 01, 2019, 09:37:11 AM »
Where did you get the tree from? If they are small and stringy and growing in clusters like that, could be turpentine mango which is generally used for rootstock. Did the tree ever freeze?

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I was going to say that they look a lot like my Choc anon mangoes :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lil’ Gem mango?
« on: June 26, 2019, 10:14:47 AM »
I was not impressed with little Gem, had some undertones of Graham in the flavor. Orange sherbet is an excellent fruit with less disease issues than its brother LZ. A little softer than LZ with big Flavor. Richard Campbell grows it (OS) in his homestead orchard. That should give an idea of its qualities. :)

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I wonder if those are even Carrie mangoes on your table also...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Mango this year
« on: May 27, 2019, 10:54:11 AM »
I've been getting Rosigold for a couple of weeks now. Sweet tart and lemon zest are close this year. Choc anon, Carrie, Venus and Haden also. It's been dry so the Rosigolds are flavorful and very sweet. Worlds better than the early harvested store bought ones...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chokanan Mango Queries
« on: May 14, 2019, 05:57:41 PM »
Hi there! Welcome to the Forum.
I have choc anon and have been quite pleased with its production characteristics. It is a clean tree without spraying and consistently makes good crops of fruit each year. It's not one of my favorite tasting mangoes but it is good. My wife really likes the taste, says it reminds her a little of the Carabao mango from the Philippines. I find that it has a little bit of fiber and I'm spoiled with the fiberless mangoes.:) The fruit has good shelf life and will last once ripened at room temperature. You can put it in the fridge for a month or so without loss of flavor once it has ripened, not before. Bottom line is I think it's a worthy tree to have in your yard. Of note also, it's supposed to give off season fruit, but this has never happened with my tree in about 8 years.

Thanks for the welcome and info Brev Grower :)

Do you have any experience with Golden Queen Mango and how do you rate it in comparison to the Choc anon?

What are your top 5 mango cultivars if you were to advise another to consider in terms of both taste and production and lack of spraying?

No, I do not have any experience with Golden Queen mango. So I cannot compare the two.

Well, taste is very subjective and I will tell you that my top 5 consist of: 1. Lemon zest(orange sherbet is supposed to be similar in taste but require less spraying for good crops), 2. Carrie - can have off years with low production and then also have great years, 3. Bailey's Marvel - needs spraying because of powdery mildew like LZ. 4. Sweet Tart - good production without spraying 5. Maha Chanok - seems to have good production without spraying. And I will include Honey kiss, Rosigold and Pickering  all have good production traits without spraying. But, I would always suggest you try the fruit before you get a tree.

So in answer to your question above, I would consider these as absolute must haves in my yard: Rosigold, Carrie, Maha Chanok, Choc anon, sweet tart, honey kiss - for their production traits and flavor.

Mangoes that I don't particularly like that produce well - Duncan, Glenn, Pickering and valencia pride. Others love the flavor of these mangoes...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first mango tree... Venus Mango
« on: May 14, 2019, 05:35:02 PM »
I would not amend soil with anything. Mango is sensitive to fertilizers or even compost, especially when young. I would not tip also until the tree starts to grow after the shock of planting it in ground. Venus seems to be a good producer in my yard. Will taste for the first time later this season.

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My bet is it's a Carrie tree. Semi dwarf tree, leaves look like Carrie. And the fruit has those little dots on top and the shape looks Carrie. In good years, Carrie can be loaded. No offense, Alex. I know your take on Carrie mango...Enjoy those mangoes! If you don't want them, I'll come get them.....:)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chokanan Mango Queries
« on: May 14, 2019, 11:20:23 AM »
Hi there! Welcome to the Forum.
I have choc anon and have been quite pleased with its production characteristics. It is a clean tree without spraying and consistently makes good crops of fruit each year. It's not one of my favorite tasting mangoes but it is good. My wife really likes the taste, says it reminds her a little of the Carabao mango from the Philippines. I find that it has a little bit of fiber and I'm spoiled with the fiberless mangoes.:) The fruit has good shelf life and will last once ripened at room temperature. You can put it in the fridge for a month or so without loss of flavor once it has ripened, not before. Bottom line is I think it's a worthy tree to have in your yard. Of note also, it's supposed to give off season fruit, but this has never happened with my tree in about 8 years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tree disease Anthracnose??
« on: April 03, 2019, 01:08:36 PM »
Don't plant it now, or you will kill it. Spray with copper every couple of weeks and feed it. When it gets healthy and you have some new growth that matures, think about planting. That's why you don't let it fruit at a young age...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hail storm in brevard ...
« on: April 03, 2019, 01:01:14 PM »
Yes, I would like to trade.

Great! I sent you a PM.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hail storm in brevard ...
« on: April 01, 2019, 11:13:55 AM »
No hail here in melbourne, but the wind blew off most of my mangoes on our fruit punch tree. Most were about 2 inches in length. Sorry to hear about your mangoes in Merritt Island. Do you or any in Brevard want to trade some scions in the summertime? I have about 30 varieties to trade.
E.

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I have an Alphonso that I topworked with 4 varieties - Edward, Venus,  Lemon Zest, and a seedling I liked. I had 4 main branches and they seem to be growing fairly uniformly. But in the future I expect the LZ to take over and need more aggressive pruning. I purposely put that graft on the north side of the tree. Grafts are now in their third year, I Believe. All varieties are flowering so it will be exciting to see 5 different mangoes hanging on one tree:)

Another tree I have is a madame francis that I have been putting grafts on for a couple years. Fruit punch, Lemon Zest, Florigon, Bombay, a julie seedling, and another seedling I enjoyed. This one is more unbalanced because the grafts are not in ideal positions, but I will try to train the tree by selective pruning. The Julie seedling has short internodes but is grafted at the top of the tree which is about 15 feet. That is about the max height I want the tree anyway.

In general, from my experience and observation, I would only graft 2 to a maximum of maybe 4 varieties on a tree just because of the amount of time needed to keep the tree balanced. Even if you have two similar growth habits, one will probably take over.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Paclobutrazol on avocado
« on: March 03, 2019, 12:42:53 PM »
I don't think the use of it is allowed here by the FDA.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what type of mango variety is this?
« on: March 03, 2019, 12:41:05 PM »
So it is Keo Savoy mango. Highly regarded and sought after by the Asian community.

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To me, choc anon is just an average mango. Good but nothing special.  But  my wife really likes it. Reminds her of carabao. I like rosigold more. But choc anon is a reliable bearer and the fruit can be refrigerated for months and still be enjoyable. Still waiting for some off season fruit, has not happened in my yard 9b for about 7 years.

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Not having tried all of the new zill varieties yet-
Mostly in order:

Lemon Zest
Carrie
Bailey’s Marvel
Kent seedling
Orange essence
M-4
Maha Chanok
Bombay
Edward
Sweet Tart
Honey Kiss

Oops, that was 11:)
New ones tried that I did not like: gold nugget, little gem, and juliette. Just sayin...IMO

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes In Tropical Ecuador?
« on: December 16, 2018, 01:14:39 PM »
I've heard the Maha Chanok and most of the SE Asian mangoes are at least somewhat resistant to anthracnose. Another one that came from panama is the Fairchild mango. I believe it does well in areas with high rainfall. So does the Philippine or Carabao mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First flowers on a mango, Woo Hoo!
« on: November 29, 2018, 02:12:21 PM »
Nice!! Another of the benefits of having 270 different varieties...  :D :D. Alex, when do you think you will have scions available again?  I'm assuming some of your newer varieties will not flower this year. Will you be selling scions of those earlier than after harvest? I was interested in Orange Essence, M-4, and honey kiss. Possibly some others. Thanks!

E.

April or May depending on if we have another late blooming year. Wouldn’t surprise me if we did as we do not get Winters in south Florida anymore.

All those ought to be available.

Thanks a lot, Alex! I'll check back with you then or email you on the website ;D Now, have to figure out how to try to protect the blooms on the mangoes. It's supposed to get down to 39 degrees tonight and 41 tomorrow night. I will string old style C7 and C9 lights on the tree to help keep it warm. We will see... I was also thinking about spraying with copper for protection of the flowers from anthracnose on the Rosigold. Good idea or not? What do you guys think?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First flowers on a mango, Woo Hoo!
« on: November 27, 2018, 01:34:05 PM »
Nice!! Another of the benefits of having 270 different varieties...  :D :D. Alex, when do you think you will have scions available again?  I'm assuming some of your newer varieties will not flower this year. Will you be selling scions of those earlier than after harvest? I was interested in Orange Essence, M-4, and honey kiss. Possibly some others. Thanks!

E.

April or May depending on if we have another late blooming year. Wouldn’t surprise me if we did as we do not get Winters in south Florida anymore.

All those ought to be available.

Thanks a lot, Alex! I'll check back with you then or email you on the website ;D Now, have to figure out how to try to protect the blooms on the mangoes. It's supposed to get down to 39 degrees tonight and 41 tomorrow night. I will string old style C7 and C9 lights on the tree to help keep it warm. We will see... I was also thinking about spraying with copper for protection of the flowers from anthracnose on the Rosigold. Good idea or not? What do you guys think?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First flowers on a mango, Woo Hoo!
« on: November 22, 2018, 12:40:42 PM »
Nice!! Another of the benefits of having 270 different varieties...  :D :D. Alex, when do you think you will have scions available again?  I'm assuming some of your newer varieties will not flower this year. Will you be selling scions of those earlier than after harvest? I was interested in Orange Essence, M-4, and honey kiss. Possibly some others. Thanks!

E.

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