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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #100 on: September 06, 2016, 06:20:48 PM »
Wish I had a neighbor that overwaters their yard.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #101 on: September 06, 2016, 09:56:15 PM »
Definitely being exploited by several of my plants.
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #102 on: October 02, 2016, 05:30:36 PM »
i am curious if anyone has tasted either the Peruvian, or, the Persian ?
i have a Pakistani, supposedly 4 inch fruits

Top  Tropicals shows an Austrailian also ?
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Morus_hybrid.htm

I am also wondering when these produce fruit ?

THe Red i have produces in a 3 week or so window in SPring
i have a couple of everbearing, and maybe they are just too young
but, i rarely see any fruit on them
when i do, the fruit are very small and shriveled.
i grew 2 of them from cutting from someone on here
another i got from Wellspring garden as a tissue culture
they have 1 more year and they get the axe if i dont get good fruit.

There is a tree near my house (in Wall MArt parking lot)
that produces tons of huge very tasty fruit.
again, just for a few weeks, at the same time as mine.
but  the tree only has a couple of branches low enough to reach
and i am not going to put a ladder in a parking lot to get fruit... LOL


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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #103 on: October 17, 2016, 09:22:44 AM »
Is "Pakistan" Mullberry as cold-hard as others? Anyway most of mulberries give fruit from late Spring (End of May) to July, some also until early September

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #104 on: October 19, 2016, 04:08:50 AM »
Found a cool lavender mulberry at my uncles house, put it up in tropical fruit discussion . Thought it may interest some of you.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #105 on: April 03, 2017, 05:24:42 PM »
Finally saw new growth on the noir de spain branch. With all other varieties already fruiting on the tree, I was afraid the noir de spain (in the shadiest spot) is gone.

Started harvesting alleged "white" mulberry fruits, they become sweet only if the color turns completely black, a tint of red is still too tart for my taste. Both Pakistani and white pakistani will take couple more weeks I guess. I put up bird netting below the tree to hopefully catch ripe fruits. Then I realize how much unripe pakistani fruits fall before maturing, wow.
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #106 on: April 03, 2017, 05:46:51 PM »
Is unripe fruit fall normal? I see them fall after I put on bird netting. I thought it was rodents or birds before because I saw chew marks on new growth and the main trunk, and shredded leaves.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2017, 05:34:08 PM »
Anyone here know the flavor of morus nigra from dave wilson nurserY??

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2017, 11:45:00 PM »
Is unripe fruit fall normal? I see them fall after I put on bird netting. I thought it was rodents or birds before because I saw chew marks on new growth and the main trunk, and shredded leaves.

Idk, but white pakistani definitely has much much more fallen fruits than the "white" mulberry. Maybe they catch the wind more? Birds eat the "white" mulberry more, they haven't showed much interested in pakistani yet as these are slower to ripen.

And I finally tasted a white pakistani that probably fully ripened. Very sweet with a grassy touch I could not describe. Smells a little bit... milk-ish??? I don't know what am I talking about  ::)  Definitely very different from regular pakistani.
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2017, 12:06:56 AM »
Most of the mulberries fell off. I don't know if they need pollination. The white fruited graft is fruiting now. Hope they stay.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2017, 07:30:48 PM »
Started harvesting alleged "white" mulberry fruits, they become sweet only if the color turns completely black, a tint of red is still too tart for my taste.

Dealbreaker to me. Will keep a little of this variety and graft other ones onto it. I prefer to have fruits that gradually sweeten as they ripen, instead of mostly tart until 120% ripe.
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #111 on: April 30, 2017, 01:06:31 PM »
My favorite daily fruit at this time of the year (april) is not grumichama, cherry of the rio grande, strawberry tree fruit, Rose Apples of various types, or mango as I have not had but one of my mangos being sweet as will happen in a few more weeks.

My favorite sweet daily treat and my best tasting fruit in April, before the mangos get sweeter at my house, is the typical black mulberry grown in south Florida. As those of us that have the black mulberry know, with a few trees you will probably get a month duration of fruit from about 4.15.17 to about 5.15.17. That's a lot of fruit compared to most other spring fruiting plants. 

Will a few trees give you plenty of fruit? Yes, see the attached picture and plant a few if you don't have any.

 


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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #112 on: April 30, 2017, 10:05:09 PM »
WOW I LOVE THAT  :P
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #113 on: May 01, 2017, 11:59:37 PM »
Will a few trees give you plenty of fruit? Yes, see the attached picture and plant a few if you don't have any.

A few HUGE trees?
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #114 on: May 02, 2017, 07:24:48 AM »
Damn. Thats pretty sweet. I have a "peruvian" mulberry that is currently fruiting for the first time. A Home Depot special. Will take pics of immature and ripened fruits for comparison to other cvs.
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #115 on: May 02, 2017, 11:20:45 AM »
Will a few trees give you plenty of fruit? Yes, see the attached picture and plant a few if you don't have any.

A few HUGE trees?

Nah, a small tree can be that prolific.

I had a "huge" mulberry tree once that made so many berries you could fill the back of a pickup truck--literally.

Random animals of every kind came from afar to get drunk upon the fermenting juices upon the ground.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2017, 08:45:59 PM »
Has anyone ever had Morus nigra 'Kampong sweet'? Just wondering how it may compare to most common varieties.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #117 on: June 06, 2017, 10:17:41 AM »
In terms of varieties with the best flavor, here is a very simplified and general summary of things:
Black mulberries taste better than red, and red mulberries have more flavor than white. The gold standard for Mulberry taste is Persian Black, a lot of other mulberry varieties do not taste nearly as good. The flavor of Pakistan mulberry is good but not as excellent as some of the other black varieties.

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #118 on: July 21, 2017, 03:39:36 PM »
I have two everbearing white mulberry trees I bought from Walmart. In one year they have grown from 3 foot to almost 10 ft since hitting the rainy season here in Florida. When can I expect flowering and fruit?

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #119 on: July 22, 2017, 04:11:13 PM »
I am interested in the white pakistan mulberry.  Any opinions on it? And does anyone know of a source on it (I see justfruits but they haven't had them in stock in a while)?

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #120 on: December 24, 2017, 02:40:34 PM »
Okay, been a while for this thread, but a few questions have gone unanswered.  Peruvian is almost as good as Shangri-la.  Similar size.  Harvest time depends on heat..most people harvest April-may.  Variety cannot be reliably pinpointed via leaves.  Leaves vary a lot, but both shangri-la and Pakistani tend to have "whole" leaves with few, if any, fingers.  Alba, nigra, rubra applies to bud color, NOT fruit color.  White Pakistani and Australian are not that different.  I have both grafted to a single rootstock.  White pak tends to sugar sweet, with grassy undertones.  Australian tend tooward melon undertones.  I prefer Australian.  I have a male that I believe is black beauty;  if anyone wants scions, I'll gladly ship for postage once tree goes dormant (it's 70f here today, things barely starting dormancy).  It's not clear that fruiting must be on seasoned wood, but I definitely get better fruiting if wood/branch is woodier.  Nigra flavor is miles better;  I know taste is subjective, but I cannot imagine anyone preferring rubra or alba if they have tasted ripe Nigra. 
Anyone have tips on rooting cuttings of Nigra?  All rot for me.  Looking to trade for some gelso Della Regina.  I have Pakistani, shangri la, the two white fruited as per above.
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #121 on: December 25, 2017, 12:37:46 AM »
I've morus nigra gelso della regina imported from Italy 2 years ago but untl now no fruits  :(
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #122 on: December 25, 2017, 01:54:26 AM »
Standing in the bed of your pickup or on the roof of your vehicle could work. Also, prune the heck out that tree, it's in a Walmart parking lot so no one cares or knows what to do more so than you. Then you could get more fruit and easier to harvest.


There is a tree near my house (in Wall MArt parking lot)
that produces tons of huge very tasty fruit.
again, just for a few weeks, at the same time as mine.
but  the tree only has a couple of branches low enough to reach
and i am not going to put a ladder in a parking lot to get fruit... LOL

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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #123 on: December 25, 2017, 04:36:01 PM »
desertdreamer, when you say you have a male black beauty, do you mean a male progeny of a black beauty?
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Re: Mulberry Thread.
« Reply #124 on: January 10, 2018, 04:58:44 PM »
Whats a good spacing for mulberries (Tice, Giant, Pakistani, etc) ? I want them to be productive. 10 ft? Right now my Pakistani has fruit on it.
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