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Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« on: September 25, 2020, 02:33:27 AM »
Lets say I want to try whatever variety that yields from a monoembryonic mango seed. If I take a scion from that seedling and put it in a well established mango tree, will it bear fruit earlier?? Really hope it does! Hope someone can shed some light :)

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2020, 04:19:22 AM »
Iíve had multiple mango seedlings flower and fruit in the third summer. A few have flowered in the second summer and set fruit, but fruit was removed to promote growth. 👍👍

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2020, 05:10:33 AM »
Iíve had multiple mango seedlings flower and fruit in the third summer. A few have flowered in the second summer and set fruit, but fruit was removed to promote growth. 👍👍

truly tropical just released a video on youtube called "how to start mango seeds", in the video they explain that seedling scions can be grafted onto established trees to "try out" the cultivar without waiting for the seedling to mature and bear fruit on its own.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2020, 10:59:42 AM »
Lets say I want to try whatever variety that yields from a monoembryonic mango seed. If I take a scion from that seedling and put it in a well established mango tree, will it bear fruit earlier?? Really hope it does! Hope someone can shed some light :)

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2020, 02:43:59 PM »
Don't know about mango, but I always wondered about grafting on to a inverted bark graft to promote flowers
basically graft onto a tree , and take a piece of bark on that tree and graft it back on , but upside down .

Supposed to prevent the flow of sugars, and force the tree to flower earlier or something like that.


Why do you ask trying to breed or just want fruit fast?
With other trees if your looking to breed them super fast,
and do not care for fruit yield but want flowers for the pollen could restrict the roots in pots just to get pollen to breed with.
I do not know about mango, but Saw a persimmon flower first year in pots in nursery, and hold fruit, but doesn't always happen.
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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2020, 02:48:26 PM »
Nitrogen is for vegetal growth
potassium for flowering ..

I know over feeding with Nitrogen can delay flowering.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2020, 04:53:06 PM »
I'm not sure you can short cut the juvenile period of the scion. Excess N at the wrong time can delay and lighten production but too little N can hamper flowering and fruit production also.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2020, 05:23:44 PM »
Fertilize
Approach graft multiple roots
Tip every 12-18 inches
Weigh branches to horizontal
Girdle
Graft seedling onto seedling

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 05:31:31 PM »
Incorrect FE and I will repost mango nutrition 101 about N https://www.horticulture.com.au/globalassets/hort-innovation/resource-assets/mg15006-understanding-crop-nutrition-mango.pdf.
If you're having a short at the world speed record for fruiting of a grafted tree then the biggest rootstock possible and the heaviest bearing scion or even better a multi-seasonal cropping type like sam ru du is a good start.For a seedling it is all about variety and nutrition.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2020, 11:25:53 AM »
Yes, if you graft your seedling onto a mature tree, you should get fruit in a couple of years rather than having to wait possibly 8-10. Essentially bypassing the juvenile period. I don't know of a faster way to try your new variety. :)

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2020, 11:05:54 PM »
Does this trick work with avocados too?

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 10:07:56 AM »
Does this trick work with avocados too?

Sure.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »
What if I donít have a mature tree? Should I still graft two seedlings?

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 11:13:50 AM »
What if I donít have a mature tree? Should I still graft two seedlings?

That won't give you any advantage, the idea is to use the established root system of the host plant to get the scion up to speed.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2020, 11:44:33 AM »
I understand.

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Re: Fastest way to produce fruit from a mango seedling
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2020, 06:39:31 PM »
What if I donít have a mature tree? Should I still graft two seedlings?

That won't give you any advantage, the idea is to use the established root system of the host plant to get the scion up to speed.


Actually it is possible but only anecdotal data so far and I donít have an explanation as to why it would work. But I do know someone who got two seedling on seedling grafts to fruit at the same time as a seedling on mature tree.  More work required.

 

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