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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fall Fruit Plate 11 Different Fruits
« on: November 23, 2015, 06:14:47 PM »
Adam, how did the Garcinia gardneriana taste?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Date Palms for Coastal Los Angeles?
« on: October 23, 2015, 06:21:43 PM »
This one looks like Phoenix sylvestris. Im currently growing three small seedlings in pots. They have this blueish-silver tinge to their fronds. I hear they are adaptable to humidity. Although these dates palms aren't really cultivated for their fruit. You're probably better off with the offshoots of another species like Phenoix dactylifera. I don't have a lot of experience as far as taste. Ive only tried 'deglet noor' and 'medjool'. I perfer medjool. I hear 'Khadrawy' is good as well.

Thats one healthy look jack! Do you expose your jackfruit tree to full sun?

Shocking to hear that this is happening right where I live. Hopefully it doesnt get any worse.


A plant of the hot, tropical lowlands [335]. It is found in areas with an average annual temperature of 26 c, with a maximum temperature of 36.7 c and a minimum temperature of 14.9 c [337]. It succeeds in areas with a low to high rainfall that range between 900 - 1,800 mm with an average of approximately 1288mm [335, 337]. Plants are intolerant of frost [335]. Succeeds in full sun to fairly dense, dappled shade [625]. Prefers a well-drained soil [625]. Succeeds in poor to good soils[335]. Young plants have a moderate rate of growth [625]. A long-lived, but slow-growing tree[337].Seedling trees can commence fruiting when 7 - 10 years old [335]. This plant is probably one of the ancient Maya fruit trees [317]. Plants are usually dioecious, so both male and female forms need to be grown if fruit and seed are required.

I don't know the legitimacy of this website but, its seems trustworthy.

Nice Raul ....and now you all are gonna want me to do one also right !! Looking at the water you people in CA must be jealous ...
Luc, were getting some good rain right now in SoCal lol

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Abiu, Abiu.. where are you?
« on: April 28, 2015, 11:17:37 PM »
Nice!  Good to see a grower from the heights!  :D have you tried champa  nursery? I remember seeing a tree from there last year... I would assume Abiu doesn't like this hot and dry weather!


now how much will shipping be to AZ, and will a phyto still be needed?

phyto is required and must be issued by the state of AZ (I believe).  I will call the FL state department of Ag (not USDA, thanks for correction Oscar  ;) ) to find out tomorrow.

Being that you are in the one state that requires a phyto, I will give you a great price on shipping (cheaper than anyone in the business, I can promise you that), but I don't know how much or how difficult it is to get a phyto!

I  am quite ignorant about these phyto certificates and online buying of seeds. I've read previous threads on the forum. My questions are If I buy seeds/seedlings from you Adam will I need a phyto? (I'm in California).  If so, how does one obtain seeds with the phyto?  And also, is the difference between the certificate and a seed lots permit?


That magic moment! To the 7th leaf and beyond..

How tall is your seedling? Mine just put out new leaves. Leaf growth seems stunted though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ALLAHABAD INDIAN RED GUAVA
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:30:07 PM »
Any opinion on are they as good tasting as I've read?

Hey Gary

yes, they are as good as advertised unfortunately I only have room for 2 guavas and they are both are superior to Allahabad Safeda. Btw, I tested 9-10 guavas and kept the best and got rid of the rest.

JF, which variety do you think is best?

Recipes / Re: Kombucha Recipe?
« on: April 17, 2015, 10:49:06 PM »
I would not recommend NOT to grow a SCOBY from bottled kombucha. In 2010 there was a big reformulation. Kombucha had above .05% alcohol in supermarkets. There is more fermentation that occurs when kombucha is bottled. As a result Gt, and other kombucha brands started doing things differently. How differently? Not Sure. Perhaps they only let the kombucha ferment for shorter periods for the primary fermentation.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya/Pawpaw hybrid
« on: April 17, 2015, 03:07:21 AM »
Did the supposed hybrid seeds look any different than  the pawpaw seeds?



I believe Maya culture was in southern Mexico and Central America. No Mayas in Acapulco where Luc found these wild plants. I believe that was Aztec area. So Aztecosteen?  ;) Probably for marketing purposes they would change it to something like Aztec Gold.
the area were Limocillo is native is just outside of Puerto Vallarta in the west coast of the pacific; from 50 to 450 meters above sea level; far away from Mayans; Aztecs and Acapulco
Raul, How many miles/km from the beach can one expect to find limoncello?

Adam, how long did your Junglesop seedlings take to sprout above the soil line?

15 "For best growth and fruit production, keep trees where they get plenty of sunlight, and even though they will tolerate light shade, heavy shade will reduce fruit bearing". This is for Garcinia livingstonei. I claim to be no expert but they are in the same genus. Has anybody else besides Luc brought Mex Garcinia to fruition?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: February 12, 2015, 09:01:15 PM »
I hear that susquehana is one of the best cultivars around. Prone to cracking, bruising, and 1lb fruits too! Ive never tried a pawpaw. Is it possible to bring one to fruition in southern California?. Also the thought of Interspecific hybrids with pawpaw makes brings me to deep contemplation.

Edit: Intergeneric

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruits for dry tropical/subtropical climate
« on: February 11, 2015, 02:52:56 PM »
cattley guava

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Low bearing coconuts
« on: February 05, 2015, 02:48:48 AM »
Yeah, the Newport coconut is one of those famous outliers...  I figure there's no chance coconuts will fruit outdoors anywhere in California.  (Is the Newport tree even a dwarf variety?)

I know it might seem like a lot of effort to grow a dwarf coconut in a greenhouse, but if the greenhouse were filled with water barrels, the passive heat sink alone might be enough to not require any additional heat or light.  Cold soil in the winter could be a problem, so the greenhouse would have to be fairly big.

Cold soil is the problem. Humidity is quite high right along S. California coast. But too much time of soil under 50F and they will croak. Certainly they're not going to produce outdoors there.
Yeah, the Newport coconut is one of those famous outliers...  I figure there's no chance coconuts will fruit outdoors anywhere in California.  (Is the Newport tree even a dwarf variety?)

I know it might seem like a lot of effort to grow a dwarf coconut in a greenhouse, but if the greenhouse were filled with water barrels, the passive heat sink alone might be enough to not require any additional heat or light.  Cold soil in the winter could be a problem, so the greenhouse would have to be fairly big.
There is a coconut palm tree outside in Newport Beach, CA near the ocean. Its fairly old (maybe +15 years old). Its maybe 10ft tall? I don't think it produces any coconuts.

I truely believe Coronado Island is the warmest costal area during the winter. It might be possible there. But I dont see it happening unless your a multi-millionaire ;) Last time I visited the palm it was about 10ft. Scraggly, some new growth. This was in august too. The palm was planted in 1984 so its 30 years old. Little runt for thirty years old. I heard it was a Hawaiian Tall from the person who contacted the palm's owner.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Low bearing coconuts
« on: February 04, 2015, 11:31:41 PM »
This might be a dumb question, but has anyone tried growing a dwarf coconut in an unheated greenhouse in California or someplace subtropical, and if so, what are the results?

Its been discussed here well at least outside of a greenhouse.

That might help. As far as Im concerned, its a lack of humidity that makes a coconut palm croak. If you have high humidity (e.g. a greenhouse) a coconut palm is better equipped to survive the cold. For a most part  they're a zone 10a palm. If planted by the coast you might get lucky. But I doubt the palm will ever fruit.

edit: I hear that green malayan coconuts are one of the cold hardiest.

I know someone of someone on  instagram in texas, who grows tropicals in a 10,000 sqft greenhouse. I dont know much about the finances of greenhouses but I guess its still possible. But I dont know how realistic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My New Durian death box.
« on: January 10, 2015, 08:25:46 PM »
Built this finally for my durian. I managed to turn a supposedly 6 hr job into about 18 but it's finally basically done. I figure I'll probably still kill the durian but at least this gives me a shot. I have the vents set to close at 70 degrees. The soil back there has great drainage so I'm hoping to avoid phytophthora. I might try to grow a couple pulasan in there too.

Awesome setup!  ;D I dont really see people growing durian in greenhouses. I wonder why. Maybe because of the trees massive size? Wouldn't the wood rot inside the greenhouse?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit Taste Reports
« on: November 20, 2014, 08:44:04 PM »
Is there site that lists DF taste reports or ranks them?  I know it's subjective but I just wanted to know what is preferred by people "in the know".  Also wanted to know what to stay away from when I am in the nursery picking out DF plants.

I currently have a Halley's Comet plant which I planted a month or so ago.  I also have other unknown DF's and different cuttings.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What can be grown in Europe, zone 10?
« on: November 18, 2014, 10:30:11 PM »

I live in Portugal, zone 10a but I think it is not like California, here the temperatures go bellow 0C, and the wind from the Atlantic is to fear. I lost my papaya with 6 years, in a sheltered location. Other plants get the foliage burnt by the wind and don't flower. It is unthinkable to leave garcinia, myrciaria ot young eugenia in the open during Autumn and Winter. They are slow growers and damage can take years to recover.


I would say the same here. I live around Los Angeles and the temperature does dip below 0C on rare occassions. But it does happen. Maybe for a few hours, but not prolonged.  Areas around the coast are generally safer when it comes to freezes. During the winter San Diego is 3 or 4 degrees warmer than los angeles. That 3 or 4 degrees is a big difference because temperatures sometimes hover just above freezing during winter in SoCal. There are a few 10b areas. I think plantmaps lists 11a. But I believe that its  a bit outdated as compared to the USDA hardiness zones.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Best BS Dorgon listing yet!
« on: November 10, 2014, 10:51:28 PM »
1st and 2nd  pictures are most definitely NOT jungle sop.  Come on, Muricata and montana? Wow. Im always weary of this seller. Especially with durian varieties.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pedalai in SFL
« on: October 20, 2014, 01:42:21 AM »
Rooting for you! haha rooting get it? Is the tree from seed?Around what temp will you cover your Pedalai?

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