Author Topic: Red fleshed acerola (Read 10582 times)

Bob407 · « **on:** July 25, 2015, 09:20:02 AM »

Has anyone else seen this characteristic in acerolas?

joaave · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2015, 09:43:29 AM »

wonderfull...whats the taste? and the ID?

murahilin · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2015, 09:59:32 AM »

Cool. I don't think I've ever seen that before, but then again, I hardly ever eat acerolas when they are ripe.

What is the color inside when the fruit is now starting to change color?

I think you should name it 'Robert's Red' acerola.

Bob407 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2015, 10:02:02 AM »

Jooave, the taste was different than typical acerolas that I have had. It is very juicy and not mealy. It reminded me of some of the red fleshed dragon fruits that I have tasted. I'm not sure if this feature is common or ? The plant is bushier than other acerolas that I have seen and the bark is a bit different, I don't know if this growth habit is a result of growing in a dry climate. However, it looks different than other acerola trees that I have seen around.

Bob407 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2015, 10:10:23 AM »

Sheehan,

I was doing my usual fruit scouting rounds and came across these. I have never been a fan of acerola and just picked them to get a quick snack. I have limited experience with acerola and was unsure if these were unique or not. All the acerolas I have eaten before turned from yellow to a darker yellow upon ripining. The area is a bit difficult to access and I have to get back to see it again.

joaave · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2015, 11:18:46 AM »

Well , Its so cool! congratulations !!! The variability of the tropicals fruits is amazing!!

joaave · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2015, 01:59:02 PM »

how many years need a acerolas tree to fruiting? i have acerolas in pot 1 year and any months old.

greenman62 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2015, 02:11:54 PM »

Quote from: Bob407 on July 25, 2015, 10:10:23 AM

All the acerolas I have eaten before turned from yellow to a darker yellow upon ripining.

i thought it was normally a red fruit when ripe ?
ive had exactly 1 fruit turn ripe on my tree, so, im no expert
but... it was red...
i didnt notice it until i saw it red, so, i dont know if it had a yellow stage or not...

google images show them mostly red, with some yellows and oranges.

Bob407 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2015, 02:20:50 PM »

Quote from: greenman62 on July 25, 2015, 02:11:54 PM

Quote from: Bob407 on July 25, 2015, 10:10:23 AM

All the acerolas I have eaten before turned from yellow to a darker yellow upon ripining.

i thought it was normally a red fruit when ripe ?
ive had exactly 1 fruit turn ripe on my tree, so, im no expert
but... it was red...
i didnt notice it until i saw it red, so, i dont know if it had a yellow stage or not...

google images show them mostly red, with some yellows and oranges.

Nice! Do you have any pics? I don't know whether this is common or not. I'm curious what experiences others have had with acerola.

murahilin · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2015, 02:32:55 PM »

Most turn red on the outside but yellow on the inside. You were referring to the yellow being the outside color? I've never tasted one they was mealy either though.

LEOOEL · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2015, 03:23:44 PM »

I've never seen one with that beautiful red color inside, the fruit looks superior to the yellow colored inside variety, I hope the tree is too; very attractive and interesting looking fruit; truly amazing.

bsbullie · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2015, 03:35:13 PM »

Bob - from your descriptions only, is it possible you are confusing Pitomba with Acerola?

Bob407 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2015, 03:53:17 PM »

Quote from: bsbullie on July 25, 2015, 03:35:13 PM

Bob - from your descriptions only, is it possible you are confusing Pitomba with Acerola?

Thanks for pointing that out Rob but no I don't believe it is pitomba. From the third pic down of the original post you can see the seeds are not smooth like pitomba and I have a pic of the leaves but am not near a laptop at the moment. None of the seeds I have planted of these fruit have sprouted and they have had plenty of time. I will post that pic when access becomes available.

Bob407 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 25, 2015, 03:56:19 PM »

Quote from: LEOOEL on July 25, 2015, 03:23:44 PM

I've never seen one with that beautiful red color inside, the fruit looks superior to the yellow colored inside variety, I hope the tree is too; very attractive and interesting looking fruit; truly amazing.

Yes Leooel, very interesting. The shape reminds me more of a miniature tomatoe than the typical acerola shape that I have seen.

jabotica · « **Reply #14 on:** July 25, 2015, 04:32:16 PM »

I have had no luck with seeds sprouting ., but good luck with cuttings
The main thing with acerola is the vitamin C content . How do they taste?

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #15 on:** July 25, 2015, 05:19:11 PM »

When Bob first alerted me to this anomaly, I had to ask him a series of questions to make sure he (or I) wasn't hallucinating...(and I had to check all the images I could find of Acerola fruit.... in books, and on the internet...i was particularly interested in the pulp).

1) I asked Bob, was the fruit over ripe? I know fruit can oxidize, and take on a vivid coloration, after it has started to rot, or ferment...I was thinking this must have been the case.......but his answer was, "no the fruit was perfectly ripe, picked from the tree"

2) Did you eat more than one fruit to check the color? "Yes" was the answer I got...all of them were red fleshed.

3)....OK, did you try cutting the fruit open early? before it's even mature? to check the pulp color??? Bob told me he would try...he cut an immature fruit open, then sent me a pic, and the interior was red!! This is very unusual!!! I believe the 3rd pic he posted is of this bisected immature fruit.

4)...Finally I asked if there were any other strange characteristics? He said the skin of the fruit was red, even when immature! Normally they're green!!

He also said the flavor was superior, and more complex than the common aceroals he's tasted (B17, and FLsweet)...having a certain twang that's pleasant, but hard to describe.

after I finished my inquisition, I was somewhat stunned....

I was convinced this conspiracy theory was true...

now I'm compelled to believe, that Bob, might be guided by some sort of tropical fruit angel....that leads him to rare red fleshed fruits!

I think we can safely say the Acerola is confirmed....but there's still another fabled fruit that needs to be vindicated!

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12068.msg204452#msg204452

Quote from: Bob407 on July 25, 2015, 03:56:19 PM

Quote from: LEOOEL on July 25, 2015, 03:23:44 PM
I've never seen one with that beautiful red color inside, the fruit looks superior to the yellow colored inside variety, I hope the tree is too; very attractive and interesting looking fruit; truly amazing.

Yes Leooel, very interesting. The shape reminds me more of a miniature tomatoe than the typical acerola shape that I have seen.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #16 on:** July 25, 2015, 06:12:14 PM »

Quote from: murahilin on July 25, 2015, 02:32:55 PM

Most turn red on the outside but yellow on the inside. You were referring to the yellow being the outside color? I've never tasted one they was mealy either though.

I have a dwarf variety of Acerola ( a different species than M. emarginata), it was selected by Bob Murray, at Tree House Nursery....it's called "Sweet Bob"....the fruits are somewhat sweet, very small, and have a reddish flesh....the texture is also somewhat mealy.

a beautiful ornamental bush, but not worth eating really....(although it taste much much better than the common dwarf barbados cherry....they are just really mealy, and very bland....)

when i first heard of Bob407's fruit, I had to ask him if the pulp was mealy...I was thinking this might be a hybrid (maybe of one of the sweet bob types?)....but now I think it's just a rare variation! Doesn't the Acerola's native range include the Caribbean? (I think it's debatable....some say it's from the Yucatan)

keep in mind this post is about 2 Bob's, 2 Acerolas, both have red flesh.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #17 on:** July 25, 2015, 06:23:35 PM »

zoom in, look closely at the top of the fruit where the stem attaches...these are the common acerolas..

https://writingupinrio.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/img_2088.jpg

Bob's fruit's have a very pronounced star shape structure where the stem attaches...the common ones have the same shape, but less prominent.
http://postimg.cc/image/m2nfcqa6z/

anyone see what I mean?

greenman62 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 26, 2015, 05:17:25 AM »

Mine was red on the inside.
as for taste, a bug had gotten to one side of it
so, i had 1/2 a cherry at most, and im not even sure it was fully ripe
that said... i remember tangy, somewhat sweet,, and not too remarkable beyond that.
it didnt seem mealy, but, it was a 1/2 a fruit a month ago.

i dont remember what it looked like where the stem attached...

i have a few flowers on it now
so, hopefully i will get more fruit soon.
I got the plant from Pine Island Nursery.
I can say the thing is growing fast... VERY fast...

i also have another from a different source.
this one is only 6 inches, and isnt growing that fast...
so, im sure it is next year at least for fruit.

green berry

april 5th... just planted it

July 19th
to the left of the jujube

murahilin · « **Reply #19 on:** July 26, 2015, 08:06:12 AM »

Quote from: greenman62 on July 26, 2015, 05:17:25 AM

Mine was red on the inside.
as for taste, a bug had gotten to one side of it
so, i had 1/2 a cherry at most, and im not even sure it was fully ripe
that said... i remember tangy, somewhat sweet,, and not too remarkable beyond that.
it didnt seem mealy, but, it was a 1/2 a fruit a month ago.

i dont remember what it looked like where the stem attached...

i have a few flowers on it now
so, hopefully i will get more fruit soon.
I got the plant from Pine Island Nursery.
I can say the thing is growing fast... VERY fast...

i also have another from a different source.
this one is only 6 inches, and isnt growing that fast...
so, im sure it is next year at least for fruit.

green berry

april 5th... just planted it

July 19th
to the left of the jujube

If you got it from Pine Island I doubt the flesh actually was red on the inside. Take a pic once you get more fruit.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #20 on:** July 26, 2015, 09:53:49 AM »

Immature fruits on greenman62's tree are green

The variety Bob found has red fruits (even when small and immature)

Maybe the single fruit you had, was a bit oxidized, due to insect damage?

I've never seen an acerola with flesh like the one Bob has...also the star shaped structure at the top of the fruit is peculiar.

PIN sells the run of the mill variety....nothing special about it.

Quote from: murahilin on July 26, 2015, 08:06:12 AM

Quote from: greenman62 on July 26, 2015, 05:17:25 AM
Mine was red on the inside.
as for taste, a bug had gotten to one side of it
so, i had 1/2 a cherry at most, and im not even sure it was fully ripe
that said... i remember tangy, somewhat sweet,, and not too remarkable beyond that.
it didnt seem mealy, but, it was a 1/2 a fruit a month ago.

i dont remember what it looked like where the stem attached...

i have a few flowers on it now
so, hopefully i will get more fruit soon.
I got the plant from Pine Island Nursery.
I can say the thing is growing fast... VERY fast...

i also have another from a different source.
this one is only 6 inches, and isnt growing that fast...
so, im sure it is next year at least for fruit.

green berry

april 5th... just planted it

July 19th
to the left of the jujube

If you got it from Pine Island I doubt the flesh actually was red on the inside. Take a pic once you get more fruit.

Bob407 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 26, 2015, 10:12:59 AM »

A pic of the plant and another showing the juice staining my hand. It isn't apparent from the pic but the plant has a bushier habit. I don't know if this is a result of growing in a very dry climate. I will have to visit the area after some heavy rains, whenever that may be, to see if the fruit gets any bigger.

There are some imperfections on the skin but this fruit was not spoiled
.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #22 on:** July 26, 2015, 10:19:20 AM »

Greenman62 should be able to cut open an immature fruit, to see if it's red inside

Bob, isn't the 3rd pic u posted of an immature (still hard) fruit, cut in half?

Showing vivid red coloration?

That is all I need to see...I know you've found something rare, and special.

Bob407 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 26, 2015, 10:23:57 AM »

I don't beleive it was completely ripe, however the pic I just posted shows a completely ripe fruit and you can see the juice leaking onto my hand.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #24 on:** July 26, 2015, 01:50:06 PM »

Quote from: Bob407 on July 26, 2015, 10:23:57 AM

I don't beleive it was completely ripe, however the pic I just posted shows a completely ripe fruit and you can see the juice leaking onto my hand.

ripe

unripe

yes you can tell it was immature...the pulp appears to be much drier, as you would expect an unripe fruit to be, and less succulent looking than the pic above it, of a ripe fruit.

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Author Topic: Red fleshed acerola (Read 10582 times)