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Temperate Fruit & Orchards => Temperate Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: gnappi on December 06, 2022, 05:43:41 PM

Title: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: gnappi on December 06, 2022, 05:43:41 PM
I L-O-V-E persimmons, I mean as much as any top tier fruit I've tried but the Cali persimmon industry does themselves no favor with the horribly incorrect and misleading package verbiage...

"Sweet Honey Flavor, Ready to eat NOW" 

Imagine Chiquita putting THAT on their GREEN, hard, immature bananas? 

No, these persimmon will not be ready for weeks until they get squishy like an over ripe tomato, after that? WOW!!!  :-)  Egads, the persimmons in the pic will be astringent and destroy any possibility of persimmon growers gaining a repeat buyer! 





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Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: stuartdaly88 on December 08, 2022, 09:11:15 AM
I have had firm persimmon that were very sweet and pleasant though.
Is this type only good to eat once very soft?
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: Vegan Potato Man on December 08, 2022, 01:17:51 PM
But did you try one?  :blank:


Green bananas are plenty edible, FWIW
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: vall on December 08, 2022, 04:06:16 PM
I thought Hachiya could be treated with CO2 to remove astringency. Are those at publix? I need to go grab a bag. I have some ripening on the counter but they're taking weeks.

https://growingfruit.org/t/processing-astringent-american-persimmons/39796/9
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: Galatians522 on December 08, 2022, 09:30:00 PM
I thought Hachiya could be treated with CO2 to remove astringency. Are those at publix? I need to go grab a bag. I have some ripening on the counter but they're taking weeks.

https://growingfruit.org/t/processing-astringent-american-persimmons/39796/9

Yes, they are available at publix.
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: Oolie on December 08, 2022, 09:47:43 PM
I thought Hachiya could be treated with CO2 to remove astringency. Are those at publix? I need to go grab a bag. I have some ripening on the counter but they're taking weeks.

https://growingfruit.org/t/processing-astringent-american-persimmons/39796/9
My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: W. on December 09, 2022, 03:30:11 PM
Honeys must be a new persimmon brand being carried by Publix. I purchased a bag earlier this week, the day before gnappi's post. However, mine were all soft and properly ripened. They truly were ready to eat, good quality Hachiya persimmons. So were the other bags at my Publix.

I agree with gnappi that this is not a good idea but for a completely different reason. Ripe persimmons are very fragile. Nearly all of them had damage of some sort. Whereas the unripened ones I bought earlier in the fall are in excellent shape, though some of them are still not ready to eat. I like the basic premise of what the Honeys brand is trying to do. Perhaps if they packaged these persimmons in clamshell containers with individual compartments, to prevent crushing, bumping, bruising, etc., then I would be completely on board with what they're selling.
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: Oolie on December 09, 2022, 05:10:30 PM
My guess is they've been treated to remove astringency. It's probably supply chain delays causing them to show up when softening, I've encountered a bit of that this year with pears, buy the time they get to the store they're just soft enough to be destroyed by the checkout bagger.
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: nexxogen on December 10, 2022, 12:56:42 AM
Where I live, most persimmons you can buy in the grocery stores are of the Rojo Brillante variety, which is normally astringent but these ones are always treated to remove astringency and you can eat them immediately, like they were Fuyus. So I'm pretty sure people who produce Honeys have done the same and wouldn't be so insane to claim how a fully astringent persimmon is "ready to eat NOW", because their business would not last for very long if they did that.
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: Tortuga on December 27, 2022, 07:38:57 PM
I picked up some of these from Publix when hard in November and waited many weeks for them to soften. The 2nd one I had was squishy but not squishy enough. Got a nice mouth full of cotton!
Title: Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
Post by: dm on February 03, 2023, 04:04:48 PM
My post is a little late but. . .

I bought several bags of these Honeys from Publix over a few weeks during the season, some bags were hard and some were softer.
None were astringent, so whatever they did to them worked.