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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to graft annona?
« on: Today at 12:17:17 AM »
The approach-graft idea is tempting.  The scion-tree is a branch of a huge tree, though, while the seedling rootstocks are in solo cups.  I would have to suspend the rootstocks from the branches similar to marcot soil-bags.  Might be viable, but a little wonky

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thornless Mexican Lime
« on: November 27, 2022, 04:12:28 PM »
I have both key lime and bearss and I don't detect much difference. There is a Giant Key lime that can be ordered from CCPP but it says it has Wood Pocket disease.

I agree.  I have had thornless mexican and it has small fruit.  Giant mexican has larger fruit that tastes same.  But bearss/persian is large and seedless and tastes same to me as mexican types.  Some people say mexican is better but I can't taste a difference

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Trees with high ornamental value
« on: November 23, 2022, 01:14:42 PM »
Nagami Kumquat has great foliage & fruit, especially when grown in container it says very compact
Starfruit flowers are really nice looking

SHV, my Suebelle is in a pot (5 yrs) and it always had very small fruits so I got rid of it. Also have a Vernon in a small pot and the fruits were small as well (2"). I think they needed to be put in a larger pot or in ground.

How large are you talking about when you say "small pot"?  Mine is in a 25gal, which is about the max I am willing to go though I have some 35gal pots I am not sure if I want to bother with

How does these compare to the common Suebelle type?  I have this one growing in a container.  It has flowered but didn't hold fruit last time, hoping it will this coming yea.  I have never eaten a white sapote fruit, looking forward to trying it

Citrus General Discussion / Re: when to pick Chandler pummelo?
« on: November 22, 2022, 03:36:16 PM »
I am less concerned about the pink coloration than the juicy vs dry aspect.  One of the things I like about the store-bought pummelos is that they are dry enough I can tear one apart by hand without getting juice everywhere.  I was hoping to find a variety to grow myself that is the same way.

The juicy pummelos taste fantastic.  They're just messy.  I like the dry ones because I can take them into the office with my lunch

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to graft annona?
« on: November 21, 2022, 06:03:58 PM »
That's really interesting, I never thought a leaf would absorb water in that way. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: when to pick Chandler pummelo?
« on: November 21, 2022, 11:00:15 AM »
Hmm that looks nothing like I was expecting for Chandler, tedburn, but does look like what my tree produced.  I am starting to think that the pink, dry-flesh pummelos I've been buying at the grocery store for years are not Chandler, but some other pink type.  And now I have to try to figure out what it might be. 

My new Chandler from MadisonCitrus is still small, no fruit this year

hah, I already have an order en route from you, too late to combine shipping.  I didn't realize you had tried some of these, I assumed everybody was selling seeds from the same sources and relying on the same seller descriptions (ex. seedshuntershop is a common one, tradewinds another)

I think I'm about done collecting eugenias I haven't tasted yet.  At this point I'm getting fed up with these long-ass names and running out of labelling tape  :D

Will be more excited once I get them to fruiting.

I have no doubt they will fruit, the big question is "is it tasty?" :)

At this point there are a lot of people selling seeds and small seedlings of eugenias imported from south america, but likely have never tasted the fruit.  In a year or two I think you will start seeing prices drop and availability soar for these uncommon types as all the people who bought them lately start getting fruit and selling the seeds.  I am looking forward to seeing if any of these new hyped eugenias make tasty fruit. 

9waters seller on etsy is great if you are looking for seedlings
greenanolefarms on etsy is good too

Here's my Geffner from a few years ago.  Top 2 is Geffner, bottom left Lisa, and bottom right is AP.

Geffner, could get to a 3 lb fruit. But if I overpollinate with too many fruits they tend to be seedy and smaller.  It's my favorite atemoya in regards to taste and texture.  I think it's unique depending what stage you pick them they tend to vastly tastes different. I pick them when they are ripe but rock hard and let it ripen. I think they are sweeter then and has a texture reminiscent of a firm variety sugar apple.  If you let it just get slightly soft on the tree or drop, I think it's a less sweet and the texture become reminiscent of a cherimoya, very soft and custardly.  The variety AP for example seems to be more consistent whether picked rocked hard or a drop/soften on the tree.  I grow in southern california.

Thanks for sharing.  I was thinking mine tasted much like cherimoya, interesting that picking them a bit earlier could result in *sweeter* fruit. 

I was hand pollinating my Geffner because I was looking forward to getting some fruit, as my cherimoya never sets fruit.  Now that the Geffner looks like an easy producer I will stop and let it self-pollinate

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seashore mangosteen in California?
« on: November 19, 2022, 02:00:29 AM »
these have been pretty low maintenance for me, outdoors in warm seasons, greenhoused in winter.   They are slow growing but steady and have not had any insect or nutrient issues.  I keep all my garcinia containers very close together with overlapping foliage so they shade each other and create a somewhat higher-humidity microclimate. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What causes rot inside mango fruit?
« on: November 18, 2022, 07:37:14 PM »
Is it typical to apply boron to mangos?  The fertilizer I use has .01% boron, and I have a big bag of borax.  Sounds like you can go overboard and give boron toxicity but I can't find much in the way of guidelines for single trees, only acres

Pitanga/surinam cherry fruits pretty quickly from seed, I would think you would just be setting it behind with the graft healing time. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus macrophylla
« on: November 18, 2022, 07:33:49 PM »
When I look at books showing the history of citrus fruits, they are often big ugly seedy things that look nothing like what we buy at stores today.  We are fortunate to have thousands of years of selective breeding behind us.

Sour cherries are really good and you can't buy them at the store.  They're still sweet enough to eat fresh. 

first one of mine dropped, so I guess they are ripe. 

I suspect this crop is undersized as the ones I've seen in pictures looked bigger.  It tasted good but was pretty seedy, hoping next year's crop is larger fruit and higher flesh ratio.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: First time citrus (Beginner)
« on: November 17, 2022, 12:20:11 PM »
A very common mix that is easy to obtain is a "5-1-1 mix" which is five parts mulch, one part sphagnum peat moss, one part perlite.  The peat moss has the effect of lowering ph somewhat.   Standard bagged "potting soil" is not recommended, it doesn't drain well.  If you cannot find peat moss or perlite, mix 5 parts mulch with 1 part bagged potting soil

All ratios are based on volume, no matter what mix you use.

DEFINITELY have holes in the pot, excess water must have a place to drain or it will become stagnant and cause root rot.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO Buddha's Hand cuttings
« on: November 15, 2022, 02:25:35 PM »
I have a buddha's hand but it is pathetically small right now.  If you are still looking for it next year reach out to me and I should be able to cut some budwood then.

btw, check MadisonCitrusNursery if you haven't already, they seem to have everything


Have you ever thought of hybridising those two ?
Even just to see if it could get worse ?

Hah, combining them you might actually get a good fruit!

I have a vaniglia sanguingo in a small container that makes a couple fruit each year.  It is currently tied with rangpur for my least favorite citrus :)

It is just like a regular orange but no tartness (insipid).  It doesn't have any different texture or other attributes I've noticed. 

No, they just walk around on the floor they do not require any kind of perch.  They like to dig for bugs in the dirt.  If you disturb the soil they will be attracted to that area because it stirs up new bugs.  I give them finch seeds also. 

They don't seem to want any coop, either. At night they huddle up together and form a circle (like a schiltron).  Even when I offered them shelter they didn't use it, I would always find them on the ground somewhere in a huddle if I came in at night.

In captivity quail are stored in fairly small cages, any greenhouse should be ample space for them.

Button quail coloration is highly variable if you get random eggs.  Mine are all gray because they are all offspring of one white + one dark gray parent.  Other quail types might be less variable, not sure.

Yes, button quail are harmless.  I have seen them peck at leaves rarely, so I avoid leaving very, very tiny just-sprouted seedlings on the floor.  They don't seem interested in even fallen fruit, they only eat seeds and bugs.

I assume larger quails are also well behaved

I originally wanted to get parrots but I heard they are highly destructive and will attack fruit & leaves

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