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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Dekopon/Sumo/Shiranui
« on: December 31, 2022, 08:13:40 PM »
Mine has been problem-free and is a great producer.  Mine are sweet, but not super sweet as others said.  Mine are HUGE though, the size of large grapefruit/small pummelo.  My only complaint about these is that the flesh near the bump on the top of the fruit is sometimes dry, I saw similar effect with Valentine pummelo.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Christmas
« on: December 25, 2022, 10:51:51 PM »
Merry Christmas!

I am looking forward to all the half-orange mandarins that will ripe in the next couple weeks.  I keep hoping I can give some out on Christmas but they always seem to need a bit more time

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Do Satsumas get better with age?
« on: December 04, 2022, 09:01:53 PM »
I had a small owari that was never all that healthy, it would grow some, fruit some, and die back some.  Eventually it died completely.  However, the fruit was always very good!  I wonder if it is the growing conditions rather than the age of the tree that is the issue for you.  Or could be just bad luck :)

I have a bunch of excess lemon drop garcinias in half-gallon to 1gallon containers if anyone is looking for this size. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is dwarfing rootstock necessary?
« on: December 03, 2022, 12:05:00 PM »
Kumquats and mandarins are both relatively compact growers compared to pummelos, oranges, lemons, grapefruit.  You should be fine.

this is the best USDA-hardiness map I have found of europe that includes Greece:

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is dwarfing rootstock necessary?
« on: December 03, 2022, 12:40:13 AM »
In containers you will likely be okay without dwarfing rootstock.  When I transplanted some container oranges and grapefruit into the ground they got huge quickly, though

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Rangpur Lime Tasting
« on: December 02, 2022, 08:14:14 PM »
I rag on rangpur a lot, but only because the competition is better, we are spoiled with amazing citrus varieties.  I agree it would make a fine juice if sweetened up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia
« on: December 02, 2022, 10:02:22 AM »
Mine flowered for the first time this year but the flowers dropped off.  Only a handful of flowers, hopefully more next year.

My rollinia is an absolute magnet for spider mites so it looks terrible right now from all the mite damage.  The waxier-leafed annonas such as soursop don't seem as susceptable. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: How long for a lemon graft to die?
« on: December 02, 2022, 09:32:09 AM »
Yes, if the scion is green it is stil alive and should grow.  If the graft is failed the scion will becomeobviously brown. Don't give up until it turns brown. 

I always remove new growth from the rootstock if the scion survives the first few weeks of healing.  I'm not sure if this is a usual recommendation, though.

If you are using parafilm you don't really ever have to remove it, growth will burst through.  I would think it is safe to remove it after a month, if you choose.

When I graft I don't use parafilm I just put plastic baggies over the graft, and I remove it after a few weeks

Thanks for the confirmation.   Height isn't an issue for me because it can only get ~12ft before it hits the ceiling fans.   I just want it to fruit soon

A relative from India who has grown and seen many jackfruit trees mentioned that I should prune some of the branches off my jackfruit tree to encourage it to flower.  Is there any truth to this?

I have a grafted jackfruit tree in-ground in my greenhouse that grows like crazy but hasn't flowered yet.  Trunk is about 4in diameter, and I have to prune it regularly to keep it under 10ft tall

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to graft annona?
« on: November 28, 2022, 12:17:17 AM »
The approach-graft idea is tempting.  The scion-tree is a branch of a huge tree, though, while the seedling rootstocks are in solo cups.  I would have to suspend the rootstocks from the branches similar to marcot soil-bags.  Might be viable, but a little wonky

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thornless Mexican Lime
« on: November 27, 2022, 04:12:28 PM »
I have both key lime and bearss and I don't detect much difference. There is a Giant Key lime that can be ordered from CCPP but it says it has Wood Pocket disease.

I agree.  I have had thornless mexican and it has small fruit.  Giant mexican has larger fruit that tastes same.  But bearss/persian is large and seedless and tastes same to me as mexican types.  Some people say mexican is better but I can't taste a difference

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Trees with high ornamental value
« on: November 23, 2022, 01:14:42 PM »
Nagami Kumquat has great foliage & fruit, especially when grown in container it says very compact
Starfruit flowers are really nice looking

SHV, my Suebelle is in a pot (5 yrs) and it always had very small fruits so I got rid of it. Also have a Vernon in a small pot and the fruits were small as well (2"). I think they needed to be put in a larger pot or in ground.

How large are you talking about when you say "small pot"?  Mine is in a 25gal, which is about the max I am willing to go though I have some 35gal pots I am not sure if I want to bother with

How does these compare to the common Suebelle type?  I have this one growing in a container.  It has flowered but didn't hold fruit last time, hoping it will this coming yea.  I have never eaten a white sapote fruit, looking forward to trying it

Citrus General Discussion / Re: when to pick Chandler pummelo?
« on: November 22, 2022, 03:36:16 PM »
I am less concerned about the pink coloration than the juicy vs dry aspect.  One of the things I like about the store-bought pummelos is that they are dry enough I can tear one apart by hand without getting juice everywhere.  I was hoping to find a variety to grow myself that is the same way.

The juicy pummelos taste fantastic.  They're just messy.  I like the dry ones because I can take them into the office with my lunch

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to graft annona?
« on: November 21, 2022, 06:03:58 PM »
That's really interesting, I never thought a leaf would absorb water in that way. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: when to pick Chandler pummelo?
« on: November 21, 2022, 11:00:15 AM »
Hmm that looks nothing like I was expecting for Chandler, tedburn, but does look like what my tree produced.  I am starting to think that the pink, dry-flesh pummelos I've been buying at the grocery store for years are not Chandler, but some other pink type.  And now I have to try to figure out what it might be. 

My new Chandler from MadisonCitrus is still small, no fruit this year

hah, I already have an order en route from you, too late to combine shipping.  I didn't realize you had tried some of these, I assumed everybody was selling seeds from the same sources and relying on the same seller descriptions (ex. seedshuntershop is a common one, tradewinds another)

I think I'm about done collecting eugenias I haven't tasted yet.  At this point I'm getting fed up with these long-ass names and running out of labelling tape  :D

Will be more excited once I get them to fruiting.

I have no doubt they will fruit, the big question is "is it tasty?" :)

At this point there are a lot of people selling seeds and small seedlings of eugenias imported from south america, but likely have never tasted the fruit.  In a year or two I think you will start seeing prices drop and availability soar for these uncommon types as all the people who bought them lately start getting fruit and selling the seeds.  I am looking forward to seeing if any of these new hyped eugenias make tasty fruit. 

9waters seller on etsy is great if you are looking for seedlings
greenanolefarms on etsy is good too

Here's my Geffner from a few years ago.  Top 2 is Geffner, bottom left Lisa, and bottom right is AP.

Geffner, could get to a 3 lb fruit. But if I overpollinate with too many fruits they tend to be seedy and smaller.  It's my favorite atemoya in regards to taste and texture.  I think it's unique depending what stage you pick them they tend to vastly tastes different. I pick them when they are ripe but rock hard and let it ripen. I think they are sweeter then and has a texture reminiscent of a firm variety sugar apple.  If you let it just get slightly soft on the tree or drop, I think it's a less sweet and the texture become reminiscent of a cherimoya, very soft and custardly.  The variety AP for example seems to be more consistent whether picked rocked hard or a drop/soften on the tree.  I grow in southern california.

Thanks for sharing.  I was thinking mine tasted much like cherimoya, interesting that picking them a bit earlier could result in *sweeter* fruit. 

I was hand pollinating my Geffner because I was looking forward to getting some fruit, as my cherimoya never sets fruit.  Now that the Geffner looks like an easy producer I will stop and let it self-pollinate

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