Author Topic: A Prince Amongst Artocarpus (Read 15608 times)

Mike T · « **on:** April 30, 2013, 05:05:30 AM »

Better than a kwai muk,marang,pedalai or lakoocha? You bet it is.Smokey apricot,chempadak,with a hint of fruity caramel.

It is a great fruit alright, with not latex or aftertaste and can be eaten quickly.Kids love them and oddly there is little smell.Keladangs sure are a classy fruit.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #1 on:** April 30, 2013, 05:33:25 AM »

Is that the A. nitidus? Is it a very tall upright tree?

Mike T · « **Reply #2 on:** April 30, 2013, 05:49:55 AM »

A,nitidus it is Oscar.Which of the six lines some people identify I just don't know.It is the best type RFC members of Qld could find.That one had already split and I ate half before taking a pic so it wasn't at it best.They look like little jackfruit with bright orange bulbs and taste great.I left out a taste in my description that occurs to me now....it is banana.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #3 on:** April 30, 2013, 05:54:37 AM »

Did you see the tree? What was it's shape and height?

Mike T · « **Reply #4 on:** April 30, 2013, 06:03:33 AM »

Oscar I have seen the tree before but it is a bit hazy trying to remember details of it.It is not a big tree (14 feet?) and apparently does not get anywhere near say a pedalai tree in size and the leaves are jackfruit size.It is not tall and thin and has a bit of width.

BMc · « **Reply #5 on:** April 30, 2013, 07:29:26 AM »

Seeds?

I should be up in August again. Well out of season for anything good 😭

HMHausman · « **Reply #6 on:** April 30, 2013, 07:58:15 AM »

Flavor sounds great. Ease of eating sounds wonderful. How is the texture of the fruit?

Mike T · « **Reply #7 on:** April 30, 2013, 08:51:52 AM »

Haus they are good to eat alright and the texture is firmer than marang.They are more like a very small jackfruit of a softer fleshed variety.Good kwai muk,lakoocha and pedalai may rival this species in fruit quality on reflection but even better marang may struggle to compete in the quality stakes.

Mike T · « **Reply #8 on:** April 30, 2013, 09:09:03 AM »

Correction....i have been under the false impression that keladang such as in the picture is Artocarpus nitida.After speaking to Tomas the penny dropped and it is not a variety of the lesser A,nitida at all.It is A.lanceifolius and I should have known better.
The fruit have a diameter of 10 to 14 cm for those interested in the size.

mangomandan · « **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2013, 09:44:36 AM »

Smokey apricot, champadek,with a hint of fruity caramel.

Mr. Mike, I think you missed your calling as an epicurean poet.

phantomcrab · « **Reply #10 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:11:23 AM »

This sounds like the Artocarpus that Chris Rollins liked so much. The botanical names are similar but he described it as being of an orange flavor.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=9d898468d8a8bfd9a58e55ae76bc02d8&topic=1499.msg27861#msg27861

Mike T · « **Reply #11 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:34:18 AM »

Richard I am sure you are correct and after eating a bit more there is a tangerine infusion I am noticing more.This one was considered the best of the keladangs from those sampled by fruit enthusiasts.I am sure there is much variation in the fruit.
That description didn't trike me as poetic but I'll try to lift my game in the flavor take.It isn't easy to describe tastes as you need to compare to well known foods.

Ethan · « **Reply #12 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:39:52 PM »

Wow Mike you've pulled another beautiful Artocapus onto the world stage. Looks great, flavor sounds incredible, texture, low latex and perfect size for one. The family keeps threatening to go to Aus for a couple weeks, looks like I might need a couple months instead to try all the fruits.

Cheers!

TropicalFruitHunters · « **Reply #13 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:41:57 PM »

Could they be grafted onto a jackfruit? Might try and obtain some cuttings this summer for the hell of it.

Jackfruitwhisperer69 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:55:06 PM »

Hi Mike,
It's funny how some species of Artocarpus are similar in appearance

A first glance of this badboy's appearance looks like a Jack x Kelang Dang x Marang

Thanks for sharing

luc · « **Reply #15 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:06:15 PM »

Quote from: Mike T on April 30, 2013, 05:05:30 AM

Better than a kwai muk,marang,pedalai or lakoocha? You bet it is.Smokey apricot,chempadak,with a hint of fruity caramel.

It is a great fruit alright, with not latex or aftertaste and can be eaten quickly.Kids love them and oddly there is little smell.Keladangs sure are a classy fruit.

Still missing in my Artocarpus collection ...hint hint...

Soren · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2013, 02:45:27 PM »

Thanks for sharing Mike; great photos and taste descriptions as always. With this large selection of Artocarpus spp and varieties available the season must be fairly long?

fruitlovers · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2013, 06:06:37 PM »

Quote from: Mike T on April 30, 2013, 09:09:03 AM

Correction....i have been under the false impression that keladang such as in the picture is Artocarpus nitida.After speaking to Tomas the penny dropped and it is not a variety of the lesser A,nitida at all.It is A.lanceifolius and I should have known better.
The fruit have a diameter of 10 to 14 cm for those interested in the size.

That makes sense because from what i've heard none of the A. nitidus are very good for eating out of hand. On the contrary A. lanceifolius is known to be very good quality fruit out of hand.

Mike T · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2013, 04:12:08 AM »

Just to clarify for the couple of people I sent seeds to.Anyone who received Artocarpus nitidus seeds from me really got Artocarpus lanceifolius which is better.It was my mistake and I have never sent nitidus seeds to anyone.

Mike T · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2013, 04:19:47 AM »

The flash photo makes it look more yellow than orange.It is getting dark but I'll try a natural light picture.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #20 on:** May 01, 2013, 05:37:31 AM »

Great find Mike! This one's been on my wish list for a very long time.

Felipe · « **Reply #21 on:** May 01, 2013, 05:47:38 AM »

Amazing fruit! Thanks for sharing Mike!

I wonder if this one is ultra tropical, like chempedak for example, or also adapted to subtropical conditions

Mike T · « **Reply #22 on:** May 01, 2013, 06:12:17 AM »

Felipe,in my opinion there are 8 really good Artocarpus.If you forget about all the variation within each species and listed them from most cold hardy to most exclusively ultratropical my guess at the sequence would go like this.
1 kwai muk
2 jackfruit
3 lakoocha
4 keladang
5 pedalai
6 chempadak
7 marang
8 breadfruit

I think 1 to 5 would go ok in the subtropics and 6 to 8 would be worth trying in the subtropics.

The fresher younger keladang did have a better orange sherbet tang and it was darn good.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #23 on:** May 01, 2013, 06:42:03 AM »

Quote from: Mike T on May 01, 2013, 06:12:17 AM

Felipe,in my opinion there are 8 really good Artocarpus.If you forget about all the variation within each species and listed them from most cold hardy to most exclusively ultratropical my guess at the sequence would go like this.
1 kwai muk
2 jackfruit
3 lakoocha
4 keladang
5 pedalai
6 chempadak
7 marang
8 breadfruit

I think 1 to 5 would go ok in the subtropics and 6 to 8 would be worth trying in the subtropics.

The fresher younger keladang did have a better orange sherbet tang and it was darn good.

Probably pretty accurate, but I think that lakoocha (from northern Indian foothills of Himalaya) is hardier than jackfruit (from southern India). Also i don't think you're going to get marang or breadfruit to fruit in sub tropics. I would think also chempadek would also fail to fruit in sub tropics. Very difficult to get any of these 3 to fruit here above 1500 ft. elevation (our sub tropical zone).

Saltcayman · « **Reply #24 on:** May 01, 2013, 07:00:02 AM »

Hi mike, what on this list would be considered drought tolerant? Thanks. Dave

Quote from: Mike T on May 01, 2013, 06:12:17 AM

Felipe,in my opinion there are 8 really good Artocarpus.If you forget about all the variation within each species and listed them from most cold hardy to most exclusively ultratropical my guess at the sequence would go like this.
1 kwai muk
2 jackfruit
3 lakoocha
4 keladang
5 pedalai
6 chempadak
7 marang
8 breadfruit

I think 1 to 5 would go ok in the subtropics and 6 to 8 would be worth trying in the subtropics.

The fresher younger keladang did have a better orange sherbet tang and it was darn good.

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