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CharlieLoon:
Anyone know a source for a Xie Shan Mandarin in CA? I've tried grafting my own three times (2-4 grafts/trees each time) over the last three months, and so far have failed every time. Budwood is coming from CCPP. I was using Flying Dragon rootstock from Four Winds Growers.

There's a small chance one of my grafts from early Aug will survive, but it's starting to show a little blackness at the tip now as well.

I'm not sure I want to keep trying grafting--I'd prefer to buy a larger tree anyway, but I haven't been able to find any sources in CA.

a_Vivaldi:
While I'm sure people do it all the time, I don't know that grafting a satsuma to flying dragon is doing you many favors. Both are pretty slow growing plants that are just kinda lethargic. The graft union might not be closing up in time before the scion dies.

It might work better to get something really vigorous like US-802, get it established and growing good, and then graft the Xie Shan to it.

botanical pilot:
I've also tried and failed with Xie Shan on poncirus, good to know that I should probably try a different rootstock next season.

pinkturtle:
I am able grafted them on c35 and FD 2 years ago and they are fruiting right now.

CharlieLoon:
It's official--all my last graft attempts have failed.

It seems odd to me that a number of the grafts looked quite good for almost a month.

I guess I'll see if the rootstock can grow back and maybe attempt re-grafting onto them later. At this point I've cut them pretty short from repeat grafting attempts--perhaps that might be part of the problem, as they've been without any leaves for a few months (though are very much alive when I cut them back a bit for each successive graft attempt)

I bought a nicely branching Pixie Mandarin and am going to try to topwork that. Maybe I'll have better luck with a more mature tree than the small rootstocks. Hopefully that works ok--it was the nicest branching mandarin there. I didn't give much thought though that they're polar opposites with regards to when in the season they fruit, but my guess is that doesn't matter since that's determined at the bud level, not the trunk/stems.

I really want a Xie Shan. And I suppose it wouldn't hurt to learn top-working so I can delve deeper into the rabbit hole and order even more Mandarin varieties from CCPP...

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