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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Jungle Yard on September 20, 2019, 12:11:55 PM

Title: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: Jungle Yard on September 20, 2019, 12:11:55 PM: Does anyone know what is most likely sold in US as Cinnamomum zeylanicum?
I have a tree and would love to identify it (pics below). Unfortunately, I missed the flowering until next time.

Is there a good descriptive source or ID key for the genus Cinnamomum?

(https://i.postimg.cc/pmkPJfzX/IMG-0951.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmkPJfzX)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PvbgrHMr/IMG-0952.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PvbgrHMr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CZWXG5Px/IMG-0953.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZWXG5Px)
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: roblack on September 20, 2019, 01:48:01 PM: You might have cassia cinnamon. Your looks slightly different from my tree, which was sold by PIN as ceylon cinnamon. Leaves on mine are lighter colored and shape is not quite the same.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: Jungle Yard on September 20, 2019, 02:58:44 PM: Quote from: roblack on September 20, 2019, 01:48:01 PM
You might have cassia cinnamon. Your looks slightly different from my tree, which was sold by PIN as ceylon cinnamon. Leaves on mine are lighter colored and shape is not quite the same.

Can you please post pics of your tree and details?
I think mine came from PIN as well.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: polux on September 20, 2019, 03:04:43 PM: Cinnamomum include a lot of different species. I have the similar plant as you - it was sold to me like ceylon cinnamon but true ceylon cinnamon smell is very different - more sweet than this. Also it is very different from C. cassia which has more narrow and darker leaf. I suppose it is some what close to C. iners or C. tamala
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: Jungle Yard on September 20, 2019, 03:20:48 PM: Quote from: polux on September 20, 2019, 03:04:43 PM
Cinnamomum include a lot of different species. I have the similar plant as you - it was sold to me like ceylon cinnamon but true ceylon cinnamon smell is very different - more sweet than this. Also it is very different from C. cassia which has more narrow and darker leaf. I suppose it is some what close to C. iners or C. tamala

I am leaning towards calling it Cinnamomum verum (formerly zeylanicum)
Still not sure.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: pineislander on September 20, 2019, 08:19:05 PM: https://www.soin-et-nature.com/en/medicinal-plants/5306-ceylon-cinnamon-cinnamomum-zeylanicum-pipe-iphym-herbalism.html (https://www.soin-et-nature.com/en/medicinal-plants/5306-ceylon-cinnamon-cinnamomum-zeylanicum-pipe-iphym-herbalism.html)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamomum_cassia#/media/File:Cinnamomum_aromaticum_-_K%C3%B6hler%E2%80%93s_Medizinal-Pflanzen-039_cropped.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamomum_cassia#/media/File:Cinnamomum_aromaticum_-_K%C3%B6hler%E2%80%93s_Medizinal-Pflanzen-039_cropped.jpg)

Key:
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/13573 (https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/13573)

I think you have the true ceylon cinnamon. I have the same from a trusted source and my new growth flush is the same as yours.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: fruitlovers on September 20, 2019, 11:32:05 PM: That looks like the real deal. The verum, or zeylanicum, has bigger rounder leaves than cassia. Also verum new flusher are brilliant red in color, not so with cassia.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: Jungle Yard on September 21, 2019, 06:08:13 AM: Thank you pineislander and Oscar for your confirmations.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: FV Fruit Freak on September 21, 2019, 01:57:39 PM: Anyone growing Ceylon in So Cal and been successful? I’ve had two seedlings die on me. Maybe my soil was too acidic? Gonna give it one more shot as I have another seedling on the way.
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: roblack on September 22, 2019, 08:53:53 AM: This is my plant, does it look like Ceylon Cinnamon?

(https://i.postimg.cc/N5jFHkjB/Ceyon-Cinnamon2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5jFHkjB)
Title: Re: Cinnamomum ID question
Post by: polux on September 22, 2019, 02:27:21 PM: Quote from: roblack on September 22, 2019, 08:53:53 AM
This is my plant, does it look like Ceylon Cinnamon?

(https://i.postimg.cc/N5jFHkjB/Ceyon-Cinnamon2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5jFHkjB)

It look like real C. zeylanicum - leaves are more elongated not round like leaves at first pictures.