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Citrus => Cold Hardy Citrus => Topic started by: will2358 on November 27, 2019, 12:14:45 PM

Title: Looking for Scions
Post by: will2358 on November 27, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
I will try grafting on these branches as Bommand suggested. I have one scion to graft can anyone send me some more cold hardy scions to graft. I can pay for postage only. I will bring the tree into the sun porch and keep it there until string. How many different scions is OK to graft on 1 tree?
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Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: lebmung on November 27, 2019, 12:29:53 PM
It's cold sap not flowing. Grafts won't take.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: will2358 on November 27, 2019, 12:44:25 PM
Does this apply even if the trees are inside the house?
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Bomand on November 27, 2019, 12:54:23 PM
If your rootstock is dormant buds will have a hard time taking. If you have a controlled environment I would cleft graft this. You can graft as many shoots as you have scions for. Be sure you are grafting compatables. You do not want a variety that is going to overgrow all the rest of them.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: will2358 on November 27, 2019, 03:28:57 PM
If your rootstock is dormant buds will have a hard time taking. If you have a controlled environment I would cleft graft this. You can graft as many shoots as you have scions for. Be sure you are grafting compatables. You do not want a variety that is going to overgrow all the rest of them.
How would you know which are compatible?
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Bomand on November 27, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
Example. I would not graft a grapefruit with kumquats. The gfruit will overgrow the kumquat. Also when making a coctail tree it is best to make sure the rootstock is compatible with the scion. Look up citrus/rootstock compatibility  chart and it will list the cultivars that are not compatible with certian rootstocks. Some rootstock/cultivars grafts also lead to a benching situation.....
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: will2358 on November 27, 2019, 05:26:34 PM
Thanks Bomand. I found this chart https://ucanr.edu/sites/ucceventura/files/57694.pdf . Boy that Eureka is pretty much incompatible with everything. I am using trifoliata and I see it is compatible with most. I want to graft cold hardy lemon and oranges.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Bomand on November 27, 2019, 06:06:09 PM
Yes. I have also found that Meyer Lemon has some issues not investigated. I grafted some mandrin types using Meyer as rootstock (because I had them) and the grafts took ....but....the scions just sat there for a long time. Some grew slowly and some appeared to grow with misformed and stunted leaves. I finally gave up on them and put them in the trash pile. Poncirus is compatable with most all citrus.....few compatability problems there.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: lebmung on November 27, 2019, 06:57:39 PM
You could use an interstock to take lemons, but I just think it's too much trouble.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Bomand on November 27, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
I too see placing an interstock as way too much grafting and time consuming when there are other simple procedures. I have done some interstock placement but.....it was all on rare or high value varities.  As a technique to solve incompatibilities......only in rare cases or dire situations.😁
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Zitrusgaertner on November 28, 2019, 06:42:27 AM
Interstock crafting is often recommended as a stragedy to get a seedling to erly blooming. But never tried by myself.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: will2358 on November 29, 2019, 07:58:11 PM
This would be my first time grafting so I do not want to anything complicated.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Bomand on November 29, 2019, 09:35:27 PM
Try for a cleft graft to start. If you need a good tutorial I can post you a link. Cleft grafts are somewhat easier and succesful for new grafters.
Title: Re: Looking for Scions
Post by: Sylvain on November 30, 2019, 07:16:06 AM
http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewforum9dba.php (http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewforum9dba.php)
http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewforumfcf0.php (http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewforumfcf0.php)