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Temperate Fruit & Orchards => Temperate Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Plantinyum on June 17, 2022, 05:28:36 AM
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Anyone recognize this species ?? The flowers are are grouped in the base of the leaves. Its growing now as a bush since it has been cut down in the past, so the true nature of it may be a little more tree like.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PvMn1nSS/20220617-094634.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PvMn1nSS)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GHcCd9pV/20220617-094639.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GHcCd9pV)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gX8WkZ8F/20220617-094649.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gX8WkZ8F)
(https://i.postimg.cc/K4726tmt/20220617-094702.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4726tmt)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qzjdR0hR/20220617-094844.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzjdR0hR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/R33my800/20220617-094914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R33my800)
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I am not sure
I guess you can rule some things out
Also it has a lot of poke a dots on tree bark or
lenticels on tree bark
Have you ever saw this site
it shows you to look at key features
https://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/Plant_Families/Plant_Families_Index.html
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I am not sure
I guess you can rule some things out
Also it has a lot of poke a dots on tree bark or
lenticels on tree bark
Have you ever saw this site
it shows you to look at key features
https://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/Plant_Families/Plant_Families_Index.html
Yes i also saw this feature on the bark, thats why i took a pic since i thought it will be of help for the id , i'll chek che site later....
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Frangula caroliniana or Frangula alnus?
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Frangula caroliniana or Frangula alnus?
To me it looks like the first one, the flowers on the plants i saw were the same, just not in such big clumps like in the net pics of caroliniana.
So it could be poisonous ?
I'll look out for the berries ,if it sets any and will update the post, but it sure looks like frangula caroliniana after i checked it, thanks !!
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TRY HERE FOR SOME PICTURES
See (the link also if you click Rhamnus (aceae) family
second link (just a example if you use the site again it is new to me) (thanks for the ID Nate the great or close to)
http://www.namethatplant.net/plantdetail.shtml?plant=1212
http://www.namethatplant.net/4DCGI/Query?family=Rhamnaceae&per=WKL
This is the same family as the jujube (and raison tree ) as well as others including the bitters are in that family used in liqour (or that genus, and also used as a malaria medicine
(quinonin in bark as well as laxative , but be careful gathered more so out west in Califorina area R. californica ),,,,
Rhamnus californica (Rhamnaceae) and Umbellularia californica ... Chemical profiling detected the presence of quinones, alkaloids
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posting quickly but read it in drunken botanist how the bark was used in liquor bitters , and still is
(edit was going to get reference maybe later )
About seeds though
here is a recipe to roast seeds of rhamnus species
(hank Shaw is pretty good non the less)
https://honest-food.net/california-coffeeberry-edible/
I have wanted to try this a number of years with our invasive European buckthorn (seeds )
I actually have some dried berries outside back door
(wanted to try to use for dye for cloths which I have been curious about,
but have never seen a written reference to use yet so just for experiments
The entire upper USA (midwest) seems to be invasive European buckthorn though Rhamnus cathartica )