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Title: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Carbo on June 22, 2022, 09:55:24 PM
Is it just my tree?  My trusty Pickering is starting to give up her fruits, but to date they have all been uncharacteristically bland.
Are others getting the same results?  Was it that lovely Saturday a few weeks back with 8" of rain? >:(
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: MasonG31 on June 23, 2022, 01:30:29 AM
I ate some Pickerings today that were shipped over from Florida.  They all tasted washed out.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Carbo on June 23, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Yeah, the texture is good, juicy as heck, but hardly any sweetness or flavor.  I'm hoping some of the later ones that are still on the tree up their game.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: skhan on June 23, 2022, 08:58:48 AM
I've noticed this too with about a 3rd of the Pickerings from my two trees.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: fliptop on June 23, 2022, 09:51:53 AM
We've had one so far off my girlfriend's tree and it was outstanding. Still waiting for the ones on my tree to ripen. We're in Southwest Florida.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: johnb51 on June 23, 2022, 11:10:30 AM
I doubt the problem is solely with the variety Pickering.  That wouldn't make sense.  I hope they get better for you.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: fruitnut1944 on June 23, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
I just mail ordered mango from FL. Not here yet. I'm afraid they are going to be poor to middling like the last batch. Too much rain there this month. That's why they're washed out. I guess I need to watch FL weather better before I order.

When I can get mine going in my greenhouse no more excess water ruining the fruit or causing disease.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: johnb51 on June 24, 2022, 10:08:09 AM
I don't want to make you feel bad, but the PPK/LM I've been eating from my friend's tree have been like candy.  So there are probably some varieties that are sweet, no matter what, especially those with no acidity.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: bovine421 on June 25, 2022, 11:59:24 AM
I don't want to make you feel bad, but the PPK/LM I've been eating from my friend's tree have been like candy.  So there are probably some varieties that are sweet, no matter what, especially those with no acidity.
John I think you're on to something there. Just had that conversation a couple of days ago. Asian mangoes seem less susceptible to wash out. I know that is a generalized term and antidote  but I haven't had a bad PPK from South Florida this season all were good to excellent. I am still salivating over the Orange Sherbert. It left such an entrenched impression in my mind. I'm having a small second season crop on my orange sherbet in 9b because of the tropical December with flush and mix bloom. I'm hoping they're as good as the one I had from West Palm Beach
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: skhan on June 25, 2022, 05:21:49 PM
The only ppks that were washed out for me are early season ones. Along with most varieties.
Just had a few more pickering that were excellent
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: dwfl on June 25, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
My Pickering were excellent this season. And they were huge, much bigger than usual.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: chrobrego on June 26, 2022, 12:22:29 AM
Mine have been excellent.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Carbo on June 26, 2022, 09:45:06 AM
You guys are killin' me.  My Pickerings are big, heavy and juicy, numerous. . .but boring and bland.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: bovine421 on June 26, 2022, 10:54:02 AM
You guys are killin' me.  My Pickerings are big, heavy and juicy, numerous. . .but boring and bland.
Pickering is a classic vanilla mango nothing exciting but it's early maybe some alternatives for you would be Dwarf Hawaiian Ppk Dupius Saigon. My very first one in early June was large and watery after that they were okay. I usually just let my wife having them and I go for PPK. It is in a spot where I need a semi dwarf tree so I'm looking for something with a Sophie frey growth habit to slowly top work it. When my amrapali gets big enough to produce Budwood I will use that.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bsRkWjhT/20220624-212418.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsRkWjhT)
Actually tried this for the first time. Was impressed with the size and seed to flesh ratio. It is a orange flesh mango with a mild West Indian flavor.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Julie on June 26, 2022, 11:10:33 PM
My tree produced one fruit and it was good.  Last year it had a weird sweaty gym socks flavor but this year the flavor was good.  Too bad it produced only one fruit.  There's been a lot of rain here in FL and also growing practices play a role as well.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Honest Abe on June 27, 2022, 12:12:37 AM
I had 9 Pickering fruits from 2 different counties this season, they were all very good, but I would never venture to say Pickering has ever “WOW”d me… to me it’s just  a very good medium/fairly sweet mango with maybe some coconut flavor sometimes, but I’ve had them what I consider bland wuite a few times where now it doesn’t surprise me.  In my opinion. I do think it shines in growth habit/small Size and it’s famous ability for being the most precocious of
All Florida mangos, but I don’t think the flavor aspect was ever in the elite category. I’ve even had some at seemingly perfect ripeness that I would consider bad tasting, with a very funky/displeasing flavor. That being said It sounds like  it may be making its name as the most consistent bloomer and producer and most precocious and maybe most disease resistant well rounded south Florida mango of all time.

Completely unrelated, Best mango of season for me was CAC from Alex Salazar in Palm Beach, I told him how good it was and he said it’s an “elite” mango. Which is big words from a guy like that.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: gnappi on June 27, 2022, 12:18:46 AM
EVERYTHING is bland here. My Pickering had zero fruit, the Madame Francis had four, my Julie seedling had a LOT but tasted like dust.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: johnb51 on June 27, 2022, 09:54:09 AM
Pickering's flavor was usually decent off my tree, definitely enjoyed by the non-connoisseur (family, neighbors, friends, co-workers).  Occasionally an individual fruit would approach peachy-coconut greatness when the brix was high, the flavor concentrated, and the juice dripping.  (I stained a few shirts!)
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: TonyinCC on June 27, 2022, 10:33:36 AM
I think people are picking them too early and not giving them a few days off the tree before eating. No wonder they are complaining about them being bland.  Don't pick until they are mostly yellow coming off the tree easily, and don't eat until fully yellow for best quality. Pickering is mediocre if picked early and not given a few days off the tree before eating. My tree in SWFL is just now STARTING to color some of its fruit.
It will be at least a week before I pick any, and probably 10 days to 2 weeks before I eat them.  Let them hang longer.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: JR561 on June 27, 2022, 10:40:54 AM
Ive had some amazing pickering from Walter Zill. Many others Ive bought recently have been washed out but that might be because of the recent heavy rains we experienced recently.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: johnb51 on June 27, 2022, 02:17:58 PM
I never had to pick a Pickering (cute, no?), as in any degree of tugging.  It was always just a matter of putting your hand on or under the perfectly colored fruit with no effort required, more like catching them.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Julie on June 27, 2022, 03:22:09 PM
I think people are picking them too early and not giving them a few days off the tree before eating. No wonder they are complaining about them being bland.  Don't pick until they are mostly yellow coming off the tree easily, and don't eat until fully yellow for best quality. Pickering is mediocre if picked early and not given a few days off the tree before eating. My tree in SWFL is just now STARTING to color some of its fruit.
It will be at least a week before I pick any, and probably 10 days to 2 weeks before I eat them.  Let them hang longer.

100% agree.  I'm always so disappointed when I buy fruit from farms.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: JR561 on June 30, 2022, 08:44:43 AM
Walter Zill has so many ripe Pickerings right now it’s ridiculous.

Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: johnb51 on June 30, 2022, 10:18:17 AM
Walter Zill has so many ripe Pickerings right now it’s ridiculous.
Following this thread, how good are they? ???
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: JR561 on June 30, 2022, 12:35:04 PM
Walter Zill has so many ripe Pickerings right now it’s ridiculous.
Following this thread, how good are they? ???

Havent had a bad one. They wait so long to pick they end up with a ton of waste. They also have notes telling customers to wait until its very ripe to eat. They had it from $1, $2, $3 a pound depending on ripeness.

Walter is the goat when it comes to picking mangoes correct. He takes it so seriously and thats why I go there the most.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: MasonG31 on June 30, 2022, 01:54:11 PM
I let my mine ripen to the point where the anthracnose nearly took over the whole mango.  The mangoes were nearly totally black.  At that point, the flavor was still pretty mild. 
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: CarloGolfer on July 01, 2022, 08:27:44 PM
I grabbed a few pickerings from fruitscapes in Pine Island. So far they've been delectable. Highly recommend.
Title: Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
Post by: Iceman716238 on July 01, 2022, 10:49:40 PM
I also ordered some Pickering from someone in South Florida two weeks ago and they were super bland with no flavor or sugar content. They were soft, so not unripe.... very disappointing.