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Title: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Gene Neill on September 24, 2022, 04:32:09 PM
... when every branch on every tree is covered with flowers? Can it be done?


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Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Bush2Beach on September 24, 2022, 05:04:02 PM
With a cleft graft?
Give it a shot.
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Oolie on September 24, 2022, 05:04:56 PM
Is that the scion? looks like there are some good dormant buds there, but as with most plants, you'll have better results by "prepping" the scion before harvesting by removing the leaves down to the petiole and allowing the buds to swell, but you may still have success with that, just remove the blooms.
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Gene Neill on September 24, 2022, 06:29:10 PM
With a cleft graft?
Give it a shot.

Side veneer. The rootstock is a good bit larger diameter than the scion. But yeah, give it a shot sounds good to me!
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Gene Neill on September 24, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
Is that the scion? looks like there are some good dormant buds there, but as with most plants, you'll have better results by "prepping" the scion before harvesting by removing the leaves down to the petiole and allowing the buds to swell, but you may still have success with that, just remove the blooms.

Yes, and thanks. I went ahead and did the graft (next time I will definitely prep the scion ahead of time). So I should cut off these buds right now? Just amputate the entire cluster, or ...?


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Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Oolie on September 24, 2022, 07:02:10 PM
I would just clip the whole cluster.
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: spaugh on September 24, 2022, 07:23:28 PM
Wheres it supposed to grow from if you cut the buds off?
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Gene Neill on September 25, 2022, 08:57:05 AM
I would just clip the whole cluster.

Yeah. My heart hates to do it, but it will probably double my chance of success here.

I also pruned off the top of the rootstock tree, just below the developing new growth (at the arrow), in the hope of forcing more energy into the scion.


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Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: Gene Neill on September 25, 2022, 09:08:39 AM
Wheres it supposed to grow from if you cut the buds off?

New growth will emerge from a node below the buds. Same as it does when the fruit matures and is harvested or falls off the tree. That whole cluster of stems above the tape would die after fruiting, and new growth would emerge from below where it was.
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: ScottR on September 25, 2022, 12:27:35 PM
I would clip bloom cluster in half!
Title: Re: How does one graft loquat this time of year ...
Post by: spaugh on September 25, 2022, 12:34:18 PM
It may push from where theres no buds now but it will take way more time and energy.  And since the graft is below the top of the tree, its unlikely to do that.  You will probably have to lop the rest of the tree off in a couple months from now after the graft heals to get it to push anything below those buds. 

You might get lucky and get some leaf growth from those buds though. 

Or you could also get a better scion without flowers and graft that up higher.

Anyways goos luck with the grafting.  Just have to hurry up and wait now.