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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Fujikawa avocado
« on: April 10, 2022, 11:53:20 PM »
Brad, about the skinny top variety on a fat rootstock:  I've seen this once in person.  It wasn't avocado; don't remember what fruit, much less the varieties of rootstock & scion.  But the thing ended up dying.

I've also seen the opposite: swelling scion on top of normal-size rootstock.  That one I have in a pot myself: Persian black mulberry on top of Pakistan black.  That combination consistently behaves this way.  I've seen it in a friend's full-grown mulberry tree also, with the same arrangement: Persian on top swelling, Pakistan on bottom normal.  I'd guess that there's some kind of "incompatibility" (for lack of a better word) when grafting certain combinations -- even though both parts of the graft are the same kind of fruit (apple on apple).  In some cases it looks like the sap flows up better than it flows down; in other cases, vice-versa.  I've never heard any biological specifics of why or how.  I'm not sure anyone has studied it enough to know.  If they have, I'd like to know.

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Chose the 3  that your review identify as the top 3 for you.  But then buy scions for 6 more and graft 2 each to each of your trees so that each tree has 3 varieties.  After you have tried fruit for a few years, you may prune back to 5 or 6 that you like the best .  Or you could be like some of us and add 9 more varieties making for some very confused trees.

An excellent suggestion!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
« on: March 04, 2022, 05:32:06 PM »
I don't care for the astringent (soft ripe) fruits so I only have multi-grafted non-astringent persimmons on my trees. I haven't found any variety that is not compatible yet. Here's what I have grafted on Giant Fuyu , Matsumoto, and Hayakume trees.

1   Chocolate
2   Coffee Cake
3   Fuyu
4   Great Wall
5   Hayakume
6   Izu
7   Jiro
8   Kurokuma
9   Maru
10   Matsumoto
11   Saijo
12   Suruga

Just so you know, if your #8 (Kurokuma) is the scion that you got from me, there are a couple of issues here.

1.  It isn't a Kurokuma.  It's a seedling of Kurokuma.  I started it from a seed that I got from a Kurokuma fruit that I ate at a persimmon tasting at UCANR.  I know that the fruit I ate was a Kurokuma persimmon, but no one knows what the pollinator was.  I'm sure I made this clear before I sent it to you, but it might have skipped your mind; we had a nice exchange, and probably covered enough details that it would be easy to forget this little bit of info.  So the fruit you get from that scion might be like Kurokuma, but it might be totally different, since the gene pool got scrambled around in the midst of all that hot sex persimmons have.   ;)

2.  Also, if this seedling takes after its Kurokuma parent, it will be an astringent fruit.  I understand people liking the ease of eating non-astringent fruit.  You don't have to worry about whether the thing has been pollinated, or treated in some way to eliminate (hopefully!) the astringency.  But for the record, I'll say that I haven't ever tasted a non-astringent persimmon that has quite the complexity of rich flavors that Kurokumas I've tasted have had.  (And I tasted a wide variety of persimmons at the UCANR tastings in two different years.)

3.  I'm still waiting to get fruit from the Kurokuma seedling.  None yet.  I hope it will produce for the first time this year.  But one thing is clear already: I have a multigraft persimmon tree, and this is the 2nd year in a row that the Kurokuma seedling branch is the first branch to break bud.  In fact, I went out to see it today, and its buds are opening now.  Matsumoto Wase (the scion I got from you) and Tsurunoko ("Chocolate" from Dave Wilson Nursery) are still dormant.

I hope that helps.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asian Persimmon - this season crops
« on: January 13, 2022, 10:00:02 PM »
Great pictures!  Thanks for identifying the different varietes clearly.  Haven't gotten any fruit from my persimmon tree yet, so I'm very much looking forward to it (and jealous in the meantime)!

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Just so everyone knows, the video is from Gary at Laguna Hills Nursery in Orange County, California.  It's about an hour and a half in length.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My coastal southern California garden
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:51:22 PM »
Janet, do you have to spray your stone fruit?  That's one thing that has discouraged me about growing them.  I loved the plums we got from the old Santa Rosa tree that came with the house, but then I did a bad job of pruning it and it died.  When I replaced it, the young tree had difficulty with peach leaf curl.  The disease is treatable, but calls for spraying every year -- a couple of times per year, if I remember right.  I'm just not willing to go through all that trouble.

I'm fine with fertilizing, mulching, trimming, watering ... but mixing chemicals and spraying, then cleaning up the sprayer afterwards is too loathsome a job.  Because of that, I'd rather buy stone fruit at the farmers' market than grow it myself.  Having said that, I do miss the flowers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How do you get bananas to fruit?
« on: December 14, 2021, 11:13:08 PM »
This photo shows why the base of the tree swells as the flower emerges. Hard to understand but every leaf and eventually the flower forms down deep in the base and squeezes through to emergence.



Great photo!  Thanks for posting it!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Search Function not working
« on: December 14, 2021, 11:01:21 PM »
No matter which thread I search, what I search for, or even if I'm not in a thread yet, this is the message I get.  Is CleanTalk preventing the search function from working correctly?



You're using this forum search function (link below)?
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?action=search

Still works fine for me.


Figured it out.  I started using a VPN and TFF doesn't like to do searches while I'm on it.  Reading threads, posting a reply, etc. works fine -- but not search.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Search Function not working
« on: December 09, 2021, 11:24:09 AM »
No matter which thread I search, what I search for, or even if I'm not in a thread yet, this is the message I get.  Is CleanTalk preventing the search function from working correctly?



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I found the answer to this question and some others just a few minutes later by reading this thread: https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=40914.msg444068#msg444068

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Thanks for looking into this and for the explanation, JakeFruit!

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I'm bumping this up.  It seems like a good question that never got answered NINE years ago.  Has anyone else had to deal with this?  How do you keep it from happening?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: December 04, 2021, 11:57:42 PM »
Right one is Lolo. The harvest time in PR is February to March ( more oil)but I cant miss the oportunity.

Thank you for sending them!  It was a treat to have some all the way from Puerto Rico.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: December 04, 2021, 11:51:55 PM »
Started out with some small, brown medlar (top left).  They were mild tasting, similar to apple butter with a hint of cinnamon.  Then Parfianka pomegranate, which were delicious and gorgeous.  The arils really were as deep purple-black as they are here in the photo:


The assortment of fruit was appetizing.  I too liked the El Bumpo and Honeyhart cherimoyas the best.  But Fortuna tasted good too, and had a very distinctive flavor.


Some of us found ourselves with so much sugary juice dripping down our hands that we had to rinse them off ... more than once!
It was a treat meeting fellow fruit freaks and associating real-world names and faces with TropicalFruitForum handles.

Simon's mix of sugar cane juice and calamansi juice was incredible!  (And very popular.)  Thanks to Brad's example, I tasted a very special cocktail: Simon's cane juice, Panama Red Passionfruit (picture below), a squeeze of lime, and a splash of rum.  Great stuff -- with a kick to it!


A few of us lucked out with the pineapple, and got to not only sample the fruit, but take a pup home to grow our own!




What's the pineapple variety, Brad?  You said it was related to Cayenne.

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Got my first PM in a long time today, but got no email about it.  I saw in the Help that if we're running version 2.0 in "Change Settings" there's an option to "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message".  I found it and changed that option from "Always" to "Never" and then back again.  Hopefully that will trick the setting into working correctly.  We'll see.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: December 01, 2021, 10:14:47 PM »
And if you know what's good for you, don't bring any peach-eating coyotes, either!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 29, 2021, 07:12:23 PM »
I'll be there.  Looking forward to it!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: November 27, 2021, 09:28:09 PM »
I've got a grafted experimental tree Im trialing here that may be a winner.  The fruits are super good and no one else has them.  Its a seedling tree from a friend.  Ill have to get permission to propogate or sell it but it seems like it may be a real winner.  It will be several years before I can really pass judgement on it though.



I'm growing pretty much every kind of avocado I can get my hands on here.  I've found most of them to be not worth growing for various reasons.  Same with dragonfruit.  Tried them all, most are not worth growing.


Cool!  Hope your experimental growing works out well for you and we all get to have a new GREAT avocado!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Deadly apple tree in Florida
« on: November 22, 2021, 11:04:40 PM »
Thanks for adding helpful details pineislander.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 17, 2021, 01:07:14 PM »
Great!  Got it on the calendar.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: November 13, 2021, 07:38:03 PM »
I have not figured this out yet, but there could be a way to have an area away from the trees were you water an area with plants in it that they like to lure them away from the trees. Then there could be a way to either trap them in that spot or set up some way corral them under ground. Just a thought.

Great thinking!  Seems like a variation on the "trap crop" concept.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 13, 2021, 06:50:24 PM »
Man, you were picking some primo cheri's there.  Making me really jealous!

Dec. 4th is great for me.

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I'm never eating a Tommy Atkins again.  You might as well buy a chunk of pine resin.  I found one Keitt at the grocery store recently.  It had pretty good color and ripened up ok , but they had probably just been put on the shelf.  Most were green as could be.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rudy Haluza passed away
« on: October 18, 2021, 10:29:29 PM »
Photo was taken in 2014, a friend (Ashok) and I went to his place to do an airlayer on his prolific Lychee tree in front of the house. A Brewster, I think it was. I don't remember when the EB mother tree was planted. When we got there, that was all that was left of it.
Thank you again, Thera.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: October 16, 2021, 03:37:06 PM »
I’ve been distributing “Inca Red” scion since 2015 at least so other tff members may have fruited it.
I scoured my records and Unfortunately could not find out who I got this from originally.
I haven’t fruited it myself so time will tell how good a fruit it really is by hearing tasting accounts from a few different tree’s.

Inca Red originally came from Axel of Cloudforest Cafe forum, who is an occasional member here, and had previously posted many times about it.  I have one for many years now.  It hasn't grown very much, but it's mainly because it's been stunted in a pot.  It hasn't been productive nor much red in color, but it is very tasty.

I just checked.  You can still find some of cloudforestcafe.com's web pages by searching for the site on https://archive.org/web/

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