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I want to buy largest Pickering i Can find, please let me know size you have and price. Thank you
I’m in Miami but I’ll drive…

Want to buy large potted Pickering tree
Please let me know price and size

I have read and and heard people say that you can keep your mango trees under 12 ft forever…AND expect good production. I understand that a 12x12 ft mango tree is a good size tree, but Will the tree eventually be hurt by continued pruning to keep that small? I have an aggressive Baileys Marvel I have at just over 9x9  ft and it’s holding about 30-40 mangoes, but tree is still young. is this something you can continue to do successfully forever? It seems tough atleast with my baileys.

I have 5 other mango trees in ground as well and I need to make a pruning decision before they get out of hand. Not sure If the fast growing cultivars can be managed like this or not…WITH good consistent production…



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pitangatuba hand-pollination
« on: April 03, 2022, 08:12:13 PM »
Hi amigos and amigas…

My buddy and member Acoff88 gave me a small seedling pitangatuba in 2017. It began flowering in 2020. It hasn’t stopped flowering. It has not fruited once.

He told me to try hand pollination…

Has anyone experienced this issue in south Florida? Thanks


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pitangatuba Fruitset Failure
« on: October 31, 2021, 11:07:48 PM »
Pitangatuba fruit-set, I suck at it.

My pitangatuba is in a 25 gallon pot for a couple years now.
It flowers almost constantly for a year now with every heavy rain it seems,  but it will not hold fruit.

I don’t water it, almost ever.
it is in my Miami yard and out in the open where it gets alot of rainfall.
It’s in full sun almost all day.

I haven't fertilized it at all in over a year.

I’m scared to change anything because of the flowering but I need FRUIT not flowers!

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.



So I had a nursery owner tell me that “Lancetilla” mango trees were dwarf/condo size trees years ago…
They are most certainly not.
My neighbors Lancetilla Tree:

I might add that they are pretty good. Nice coconut tones with classic flavor and no fiber to speak of.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Baby-friendly Mango fruits.
« on: June 21, 2021, 06:05:19 PM »
I’ve got a 15 month old baby boy, he’s the light of my life. I’m obsessed with him, And mangoes, so naturally I wanted him to like mangos. His first mango try was Haden because it was most convenient in my neighbors yard, but it’s got just enough fiber to be hazardous and he would choke. I stopped immediately and continued my a search.

So far I found “Glenn” is perfect. A very ripe Glenn is like a mango jello and he loves it. It melts in his little Mouth and even big chunks melt away safely and enjoyably.

He also loves ripe “Irwin” and it seems safe.

“Kathy” and “Karen Michelle” he loves and they were safe too.

“Lemon Zest” was his definite favorite and nice and soft and melting for his 8-tooth mouth too.

Just figured If there are any new dads or moms on here this might be Helpful.

Please add any mango cultivars that are soft, sweet and completely fiberless for rugrats.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sugarloaf or Pineapple Pleasure
« on: June 14, 2021, 10:10:29 PM »
That is the question..

They are hands down my two favorite mangos by a long shot.

Does Pineapple Pleasure produce well?
Disease resistant?

My sugarloaf already flowered and fruited in 2 years in ground,but that’s not enough time to tell me much.The Fruits dropped and the male flowers were terribly dominant, but hoping for next Year success.


I want opinions and pros and cons if anyone has grown either or both.
Thank you


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sugarloaf/E4 Thread
« on: February 16, 2021, 12:17:55 PM »

Please post pics or updates on Sugarloaf/E4 Mango trees here:

This one is my tree.  I got in 2019 planted in ground august 2019. Every branch has a panicle in bloom. Lucky!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Productivity of the NDM Mango Tree
« on: February 07, 2021, 02:50:32 PM »
Hi fellow Mango-obsessors,
Please share your experiences with the productivity of your NDM trees. I have a 3 year old grafted NDM, the non-dwarf variety. Maybe it’s called “sia tong”.. everything I have in ground is in full bloom, except my 6.5x4 ft NDM. Are they usually later to start producing? Are they very productive early, or when more mature? I’m in the Miami, Fl area. Thanks so much

I had some great Jamaican gentlemen on my boat today. They told me of this fruit that’s prolific on their mountain property in Jamaica. They enjoy it very much. Will it grow at sea level in the south Florida climate? Anyone try it? If so, please share growing info.

Thank you


Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried growing mangos in anything other than soil mix? Maybe sawdust, cypress mulch? If you must know why I ask...because I’ve always been curious.

Hi all mango maniacs,
I would love to hear some experiences on this one. Tasted a few this year and loved the classic mango sweetness with very fiber. Is this typical? Is the tree a heavy producer? Disease resistant? Thank you in advance.

Does anyone still have Mangos on your trees In Florida? Please name cultivars and please state what stage your Remaining crop is in. Thank you

I am a big fan of a backyard-grown south Florida “keitt”
I have a 6 foot tree in my yard collection, despite all the warnings about disease issues. I enjoy the sweet, juicy, coconut flavor, large size and it’s potential for consistency very late season. My question is aimed at all the mango pros/experts and veteran growers on here ( I enjoy all of your info and advice).

Is “Keitt” even worth planting any more in south Florida? Is the impending MBBS doom probability so great of a threat to the tree and my other trees?  that a tree in the yard is not worth the space?

I figured I better ask everyone now before rainy season dooms my young, Precious 7-tree Miami grove.


-Capt. Abie Raymond

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango ID...
« on: May 19, 2020, 06:11:38 PM »
I pulled up my truck and stood on my bed with my picker on a public median for guess is Angie. Anyone have an idea? Flesh is bright/pale yellow. Tree is large but not huge and fruit is good size.  Flavor was sweet, completely fiberless almost gelatinous with notes of peach in center and honey towards skin.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / “Karen Michelle” Mango
« on: May 15, 2020, 10:24:55 AM »
Wow, picked up a “Karen Michelle” Mango and just bit into it. It’s a fiberless, large, excellent mango. At first taste it’s like a del monte fruit cocktail, then close to the center it’s a creamy pina colada mix with the cherry smushed up and mixed around. Delicious.

Does anybody know the story on this one from ZHPP? Parentage? Was it part of the Zill performance mango program?

I want to trade my 15 gallon Nom Doc Mai mango tree for a 15 gallon Maha Chanok mango tree OR BIGGER

Very healthy tree pushing new growth.

Hey y’all mango fanatics, I cruised up to Alex’s place in Palm Beach and bought everything he had in the “picked” crate. I always wanted to meet Alex and he Was super cool and knowledgeable as I expected. Alex’s Grove is the chocolate factory and Alex is Willy Wonka(in a very good way)I was excited to try some super early mangoes because who doesn’t like the notion of potentially having mangoes in April ripening in their yard? I’m a novice but  Most cultivars differ slightly chronologically from year-to year but early or mid or late holds true.

So I figured I’d share my taste opinion on each because they are not widely discussed varieties on the forum. I cannot speak to the productivity, disease resistance or anything valuable to a grower, but guys like Har and Alex and pros like them will handle that. This post is about Early Mango TASTE. (IMO)

Here’s what Alex sold me in order of my preference:

Excellent “Miami mango,” sweet, dense, fiberless and very creamy(seems best when barely soft to touch). Bright Orange and very Juicy. Julian Lara of Lara farms told me it’s in his top 5 and always will be. Medium sized.

“Duncan” :
Not a favorite of me or the wife. When eaten a bit early, it is very bitter towards skin and tangy/zesty towards the seed. When left to soften a bit more, it tasted like a mild Peach towards the seed, pleasant but not delicious, and also very resinous/bitter toward the skin. Fiberless, light, soft flesh. Me and my wife did not enjoy it very much, just a mild, peachy mango with bitter skin. I’d call it “decent”.Medium sized.

“Rosigold” :

When cut, there is a floral aroma, when eaten it tasted how it smelled. Floral, must have been named for the flavor as-well as the skin appearance. The wife and I would not add it to our collection. It was so floral and piney that we cannot see adding it to the yard UNLESS you MUST have an April Mango, but even then it is a complex mango, floral and bitter at the skin. Fiberless and soft. Small.

“Philippine” :
When eaten early it is like a spoon half full of honey and half full
Of fresh lime juice. Very soft flesh at any ripe stage. Fiberless. Small. When eaten later and softer its just a good honey mango. Simple honey flavor, not overpoweringly sweet. We like it, but not a “wow” mango by any means. Very good sliced with yogurt or over sticky coconut rice. Small
Fruit but very high yield of flesh for its size as the seed is flat.



Hi friends, Here in Biscayne Park, Florida my Cedar Bay Cherry has 8 flowers on it at a miniature night of 30 inches tall. My friend, forum member and tropical fruit mentor Adam Coff Gave it to me exactly one year ago and I planted it in my Yard that day. After being in Ground for just one year and being such a small size I was shocked. Everything I’ve read would infer they take 6 or 7 years from seed to flower.
If it helps anybody growing or trying to grow:

Planted the small shrub in a spot with 8 hours of direct sun all year.
Planted in 50/50 mix of native(very sandy) soil and black cow.’
Mulch with cypress mulch.

*the shrub does have a bit of a rust problem (or it would seem to me unless it’s a natural characteristic)

Worth noting:here in Miami we have had 6 weeks of drought, probably a cause for flowering if not THEE cause.

Now we will see about fruit-set.

ANYONE ELSE ON THE FORUM GROWING CEDAR BAY CHERRY( Eugenia reinwardtiana)??? Successes and failures under noted conditions?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango ID
« on: March 24, 2020, 02:47:50 PM »
Hi Mango Pros, thank you in advance for all of your knowledge I’m a big fan of all the mango pros on here I think this forum has the best in the world.
Anyone that has an opinion would be greatly appreciated!
Tree is upright in growth
Fruit is green with pretty purple blush
Fruit grows to about 5 inch long
Fruit has a very distinguished “dimple”
Leaves are dark green, narrow and small
Flesh is mostly fiberless
Seed is fairly good sized

Tropical Fruit Discussion / MANGO TREE ETHICS
« on: January 08, 2020, 08:48:24 PM »
Good evening my fellow mango lovers, i am a lover of mangoes and most tropical fruits. I sold my Miami Condo and took my potted plants with me to my new home about 1 mango season ago. I have carefully selected the mango varieties In my yard based on all of you mango pros here and some obsessive research. Unfortunate they are all too young to produce any decent crop of mangoes. However, my neighbors tree is LOADED with flowers. It was nearly killed last year from his “roundup” usage but has bounced back better than ever this year it seems. The trunk of the tree is almost touching my 6 foot fence and about 40 percent of it overhangs my yard. It’s about 15 ft high and of very nice upright dense growth but I’ve yet to see a fruit so it’s unidentifiable to me.

MY QUESTIONS: How far is too far?
Can I pick the mangoes directly above my fence? If a mango hangs half on my side and half on his, can I take the flesh and give him the pit? If his squirrel bites one of mine hanging can I take a bite from one of his? If one falls on my fence and lands in his yard is that still technically mine? If the wind is swinging the Fruits from yard to yard can I pick them when they swing to my side? If he is picking them off his tree and reaches over my fence to get one am I allowed to get mad? Can I tell people they are my mangoes when they sample them and rave about the taste? HOW FAR IS TOO FAR??

Your forum—fulltime-fisherman.
Capt. Abie Raymond
Biscayne Park, Florida

I have two citrus trees in 15 gallon pots, 1 Navel Orange and One Bearss Lemon. They both fruited last year, the Navel put out 19 oranges, I ate them in July. The Lime put out about 20 limes throughout the year. WILL TRADE FOR ONE 15 gallon Mango- LET ME KNOW WHAT YA GOT IF I HAVE ANY TAKERS?
Why? Because citrus just don’t turn me on, but la la. Different strokes for different folks.(Prefer Maha Chanok but let me know what ya got)

Navel Orange-

(Pick when they give if you squeeze them, they will still be green but orange and ripe inside)
Bearss Lemon-

(Pick when they JUST start to yellow)

I have two citrus trees in 15 gallon pots, 1 Navel Orange and One Bearss Lemon. They both fruited last year, the Navel put out 19 oranges, I ate them in July. The Lime put out about 20 limes throughout the year. WILL TRADE FOR ONE NICE SIZE

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Spykes grove performance mangoes!
« on: August 21, 2019, 02:18:16 PM »
Just went to Spykes grove on griffin road just west of the turnpike,
They had
Got me a Keitt and a sugar loaf !

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