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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: This Season's Pickering Are Bland
« on: June 27, 2022, 12:12:37 AM »
I had 9 Pickering fruits from 2 different counties this season, they were all very good, but I would never venture to say Pickering has ever “WOW”d me… to me it’s just  a very good medium/fairly sweet mango with maybe some coconut flavor sometimes, but I’ve had them what I consider bland wuite a few times where now it doesn’t surprise me.  In my opinion. I do think it shines in growth habit/small Size and it’s famous ability for being the most precocious of
All Florida mangos, but I don’t think the flavor aspect was ever in the elite category. I’ve even had some at seemingly perfect ripeness that I would consider bad tasting, with a very funky/displeasing flavor. That being said It sounds like  it may be making its name as the most consistent bloomer and producer and most precocious and maybe most disease resistant well rounded south Florida mango of all time.

Completely unrelated, Best mango of season for me was CAC from Alex Salazar in Palm Beach, I told him how good it was and he said it’s an “elite” mango. Which is big words from a guy like that.

My trees are atleast 1 month-1.5 months  later than last year. Probably peak mid-late June here in North Miami Beach for most varieties.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: WHAT STEALS GREEN MANGOES???
« on: May 27, 2022, 09:50:04 PM »
2 legged critters…

Future I don’t want to jack thread but how has LZ production been progressively (or not) over the decade?

Just my opinion on Taste:

 I prefer Lemon Zest by far. I say it’s king of the “citrus mangos” and OS is Prince, but OS could never take the throne.

I Vote Pickering.
Small tree
Pretty tree
Blooms full even on warm winters
Great fruit set
8/10 flavor and no fiber
Nice classic mango flavor with a teeny tiny bit of coconut

Order a tree from tropicalacresfarms you can call Alex direct first if you want.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My fruiting Achachairu - Video
« on: May 09, 2022, 11:44:36 PM »
Amazing tree, a masterpiece. Please let me know if I can buy a few for me and my buddy (another member). We are both growing for over 5 years now he has been growing for 7. We would love to try! Thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jean Ellen mango any fans
« on: May 09, 2022, 11:34:20 PM »
I agree with Khan on his opinion of Jean Ellen aroma, and i think he says aroma because the sweetness is nowhere near a good Angie, in my opinion. His texture opinion is spot on, grape like, similar to
A phillipine in texture I’d say.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jean Ellen mango any fans
« on: May 09, 2022, 12:42:14 AM »
I first tried Jean Ellen this past month. I am not a fan, maybe the second crop(if it has one) is better…

I want to buy largest Pickering i Can find, please let me know size you have and price. Thank you
I’m in Miami but I’ll drive…

Want to buy large potted Pickering tree
Please let me know price and size

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« on: April 21, 2022, 09:12:31 PM »
 Of the Zill mangoes I am growing E-4 (sugarloaf) and pineapple Pleasure in my Coastal Miami yard.

 Insubstantial to mention but if we are making a log:  The pineapple pleasure i just planted last  year it was a 3 gallon. , it already has anthracnose on older leaves and has flushed leaves twice, no bloom this winter.

More informative: The sugarloaf I have I planted in 2019. It’s about 8 ft tall and relatively lengthy, not very symmetrical. But you asked about fruit, two years in a row I had full bloom, 2021 i had 3 mangoes that all dropped at chicken egg-size. 2022 I had just one fruit and it dropped at apricot-size. Both years the flowers were overwhelmingly male. Just a few female flowers. I enjoy the fruit so much(it’s my favorite) that i Plan on top-working one of my trees to sugarloaf as well. I figure I need two trees to have a chance at good harvest in future years judging by male flowers. The older leaves get anthracnose  but overall it’s a decent looking  tree with a fairly lengthy and vertical asymmetrical canopy, but pretty light colored leaves. Simaler growth to my “Keitt” but not quite as lengthy and much lighter leaves/ in believe E4 Has Keitt parentage….

It ain’t much but that’s my contribution.

Thank you all For responses.

Thanks all,
Satya, are you proposing that pruning aggressively growing trees yearly could be bad for them/their production over the course of many years?

I have read and and heard people say that you can keep your mango trees under 12 ft forever…AND expect good production. I understand that a 12x12 ft mango tree is a good size tree, but Will the tree eventually be hurt by continued pruning to keep that small? I have an aggressive Baileys Marvel I have at just over 9x9  ft and it’s holding about 30-40 mangoes, but tree is still young. is this something you can continue to do successfully forever? It seems tough atleast with my baileys.

I have 5 other mango trees in ground as well and I need to make a pruning decision before they get out of hand. Not sure If the fast growing cultivars can be managed like this or not…WITH good consistent production…



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf or Pineapple Pleasure
« on: April 05, 2022, 09:43:33 PM »
My 7/8 foot tree is holding one grape size SL. Only had a partial bloom on lower branches.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitangatuba hand-pollination
« on: April 04, 2022, 10:44:08 PM »
Thank you all for responses

Seems that no body experiences easy fruit set with them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pitangatuba hand-pollination
« on: April 03, 2022, 08:12:13 PM »
Hi amigos and amigas…

My buddy and member Acoff88 gave me a small seedling pitangatuba in 2017. It began flowering in 2020. It hasn’t stopped flowering. It has not fruited once.

He told me to try hand pollination…

Has anyone experienced this issue in south Florida? Thanks


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango trees that are biennial?
« on: April 03, 2022, 08:03:30 PM »
In my neighborhood I have observed Valencia pride and Beverly and NDM having tendencies to Produce heavily one year and very little or no fruit the next  it seems.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf or Pineapple Pleasure
« on: April 02, 2022, 09:57:05 PM »
Doing budwood checks and just took a look at one of our Pineapple Pleasure

Alex, this gets me STOKED!
Any guess on how many years that tree has been in ground?

I have pillaged all the trees at Fruit and Spice And I Vote “Pakistaní” the black variety.

It’s by far my favorite for years running but I’ve only tasted them in that particular geographic location…

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf or Pineapple Pleasure
« on: April 01, 2022, 08:38:49 PM »
Yes, PP certainly has mostly male flowers. 3 years in a row mostly all male and when I asked Alex of Tropical Acres i Believe he told me that yes they have mostly male flowers however the few female ones could be very successful. I will stick with both varieties for a while longer for sure and atleast analyze their traits in my yard over 10 years to give me an idea of what I can expect.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf or Pineapple Pleasure
« on: March 30, 2022, 11:25:07 PM »
Well I ended up with both cultivars. My Pineapple Pleasure is still a baby but i decided to give it a shot. No blooms so far but only in ground less than a year.

My sugarloaf only bloomed partially this Year. Just A few panicles, but it’s holding one grape sized fruit and it’s about 8 ft tall.

Last year my sugarloaf bloomed better and held 5 fruit until they were about golf balls size and then dropped them all.

If it’s any consolation, my NDM Is in ground almost 5 years and yet to bloom so do not assume that it’s only performance mangoes that lack precocious ability.

In conclusion, I still have faith that no
One will build a better two mangos TO MY LIKING in the next decade and there for Sugarloaf AND pineapple pleasure trees will have a full decade to show me what there made of. (Please universe, don’t send me any hurricanes). 

I will say that Cecilove and Juicy Peach wowd me last year and they were in competition foe that pineapple pleasure spot but she still won the spot.

This thread caught my interest.

My NDM is on year 4 and no blooms. Good trunk girth. It’s not a #4 it’s the one they grafted popularly prior to that one. No luck with blooms yet either. I’ve had people tell me it was 7 plus years for this grafted variety of NDM. Major bummer as it’s my wife’s favorite and I love it as well, And we ain’t getting any younger but all good things take time.

Fantasy for thought, imagine if you leave the pineapple pleasure another 4 or 5 years and you have a nice mature tree and a 100 mangoes a year from then on out! It’s such a new one that it might be worth it, I can tell you that from eating Alex’s pineapple pleasures that it might me worth the wait. I say don’t chop her for a few years.
My Vote.

PS…my PP Tree is only a wee lad but i will wait for her and long for her lol.

Good luck!

Ruby x supreme guava was my fastest ever about 6 months in ground and was in pot 6 months prior.
Great fruit too,  but white fly was her demise a year later.

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