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Citrus General Discussion / Re: UF Australian Lime Improvement Program
« on: August 18, 2022, 10:10:25 PM »
This is awesome! Great to see something new being pushed out.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gummosis problem
« on: August 18, 2022, 01:14:24 PM »
There is one fungicide which is said to specifically control phytophthera. This is Fosetyl-Aluminium sold as Aliette. See for instance https://www.cropscience.bayer.us/products/fungicides/aliette
As others have said, the best way to guard against the problem is to avoid saturated medium. Make sure water can drain freely through and out of the pot in abround 30 seconds. I also re-plant with the stem raised a little above the surface of the pot mix, even with the highest roots showing.

I went with another recommendation, the exact stuff Vnomonee said. Itís also said to control phytophthera as well! Iím hoping it does some magic.

In other regards, I use a 2:1:1 mix of coco chips, coir, perlite. It doesnít hold water in the slightest, no longer than a day or two at most even on less warm days. It drains very freely, much less than 30s lol. Probably like 5s tops before it comes spilling out. I have very few trees infected, but most certainly all rooted cuttings.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gummosis problem
« on: August 17, 2022, 08:09:29 AM »
Root diseases are generally thought to be more prevalent under unfavourable conditions.
Roots in a cold,saturated,  wet zone at the bottom of a pot could be alleviated by increasing Air filled porosity and drainage.
Repotting into a taller pots without disturbance may help.
Composted chicken manure ( also a Phosphorous source ) is said to have anti Phytophora properties.
Silica is also seen as a useful addition. Various natural minerals supply Silica, an essential plant nutrient that may be absent from Hydroponics or some pot mixes.
Composted fish fertiliser, with a high crustacean content is said to be useful. Fungi have Chitin based cell walls, as do Arthropods.
Some claim the enzymes in composted crustaceans fertiliser can be anti Fungal.
In Australia composted Eucalypt sawdust is a useful addition to pot mix for root disease suppression, above that of properly composted pine bark.

Other factors that promote root disease are root damage,  from incorrect fertiliser application rates, and excessive drying out of the pot mix between waterings.
( drying out increases the fertiliser concentration in the pot mix, more fertiliser in less water ).

Thatís some good stuff! Thank you for that info! Iím thinking Iíll try a systemic fungicide first and go from there!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gummosis problem
« on: August 17, 2022, 08:08:27 AM »
Hi frank, my grafted xie shan satsuma started doing this over the winter. i bought "gardenphos" which is a systemic fungicide (phosphorus acid) did a leaf spray made  and a soil drench over the course of the winter. so far there has not been any more gummosis from that tree and I haven't noticed it in any of my other plants. Not sure if it was already infected when I purchased it (BriteLeaf) or if it caught it from the enviornment here in NJ. Apparently its phytophthora that causes it and it starts at the roots so treat your soil. it can also enter tree wounds so make sure nothing splashes any cuts or scrapes on your trunk or anywhere you did a graft especially if its going to rain.

also what is your potting medium? does it stay wet for a long time?

Interesting, as itís only my briteleaf plants that are affected. Everything else is in the same potting media, made of coco chips, coco coir, and perlite with an added biochar. Iíll have to contact them and ask a little about it. Iíve had about 6-8 brite leaf rooted cuttings develop this, some even croak. Iíll be grabbing a systemic fungicide though! Thank you for the input!

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Citrus General Discussion / Gummosis problem
« on: August 16, 2022, 11:21:25 PM »
Iíve stumbled upon a few more issues regarding my trees. It seems that several have this gummosis issue, most start at the base of the tree and kill them from the base up. Iíve recently had it on some in the upper parts too. Is there anything that treats this? Or are my trees that develop it, goners?

Some pics of the stuff. On my VPL I peeled back some of the soft mushy bark, seems rather brown and unhealthy. I feel impending doom coming anyways.









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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing under LEDís
« on: August 15, 2022, 09:31:07 PM »
The pigmentation concerns me much more than the light.

I note that some compounds are less available at certain temperatures.  What temperature are these plants kept at during the winter?  I suspect some combination of watering/fertilization/temperature is resulting in deficiencies as the plant grows without the nutrients to sustain the new tissue.

Foliar feeding of chelated iron - which can be as simple as the cooking water from greens - might help.

With my own plants, my only goal over the winter is to keep them alive - they get weak light from a window with indirect exposure, and that's all.  They don't grow, but they don't develop deficiency problems either.

They stay usually anywhere from 70F to 85F. Iíve foliar fed them a kelp spray, rich in iron in the past with no change. I believe itís to do with my pH and now noting, heavy salted water lol. Iíve had tests run and this is my conclusion. It would make sense for this to show after around a month or so, being pH and salt buildup.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing under LEDís
« on: August 15, 2022, 09:28:09 PM »
I do believe itís my water. Iíve ran some pH tests and salts, turns out I have a very high chlorine content with a pH of around 8-8.4. So I truly believe this is my issue. Iíve now resorted to using a large 10 gallon jug, pH adjusting it to 6.5, and using some water conditioner that you use with fish tanks to evaporate salts and such. Will report how this works out here this winter.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Rosso Blood Lemon
« on: August 11, 2022, 08:09:12 AM »
Is Rosso blood lemon a Lemon cultivar, Citrus limon, or something else ?
Maybe C.jambhiri ??

I believe it is citrus limonia, or citrus limon rosso. Thereís not a lot of info on it, as it seems like itís pretty rare. From what I hear, it tastes that exactly of a lemon, a little more complexity, only has a blood/red pigment to its flesh and itís quite a large fruit.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Rosso Blood Lemon
« on: August 10, 2022, 11:04:45 PM »
I have a few Rosso blood lemons that Iíve managed to root, and graft. I have 3 small rooted cuttings, and 2 grafted trees on US942. All are still young, but Iím wanting to gauge interest to those who are wanting to trade something as they become ready, which may be a few months out yet.

Iím mostly looking for other interesting or hard to find citrus cultivars, such as this rosso blood, that I can expand my collection with.

Being that this particular budwood is not typically for sale in the US, I wish to not name a price, but rather trade. Rosso blood lemon is an Italian variety, however I canít tell you what itís use would really be other than ornamental/collectors value. I believe it is high oil content, but Iím more of a visual collector than just for uses. I have seen the fruit coming from this budwood and can attest to it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing under LEDís
« on: July 30, 2022, 06:09:19 AM »
I don't think your trees symptoms come from the LED lighting.  The leaves are showing the typical sign of an iron deficiency. The leaf symptoms for iron deficiency are:  New leaves with green veins on otherwise yellowish leaves. An iron deficiency is often caused by high pH rather than a shortage of minerals.

I think youíre right Millet. I believe this is pH related. Iím doing some soil and salt testing, as well as some water tests and will go from there.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing under LEDís
« on: July 30, 2022, 06:08:01 AM »
The pigmentation concerns me much more than the light.

I note that some compounds are less available at certain temperatures.  What temperature are these plants kept at during the winter?  I suspect some combination of watering/fertilization/temperature is resulting in deficiencies as the plant grows without the nutrients to sustain the new tissue.

Foliar feeding of chelated iron - which can be as simple as the cooking water from greens - might help.

With my own plants, my only goal over the winter is to keep them alive - they get weak light from a window with indirect exposure, and that's all.  They don't grow, but they don't develop deficiency problems either.

Theyíre kept rather warm, maybe anywhere from 72-82F? Thanks for the tips with it. I do have things temp controlled too which I forgot to say! Due to everyone elseís comments, I believe itís in my water. Once theyíre outdoors they mostly get the slightly acidic rain water for the most part, while inside they get my tap water -which is probably high in salts and high pH. Iím going to look into the pH and do some adjustments to see if that will help.

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Citrus General Discussion / Growing under LEDís
« on: July 28, 2022, 08:25:17 PM »
Do any of you grow with LEDís through the winter? I unfortunately have NO natural light indoors so they must strictly be grown with artificial lighting.

Note I use pretty powerful lighting, in order to replicate full sun, however, as you can already guess, nothing can truly replicate Mother Nature. My plants always start out great and grow well for the first month or so, things start to grow yellow and stressed. I typically keep my lights around 75% (noting that 100% really stressed them out) and on for 14-16 hours, off the rest. I feed them properly and meticulously with a very well balanced fertilizer. I would like to see if anyone else has these sorts of issues and how they go about correcting them before things are needed to come indoors.

The lights I use are a mixture of high output sonofarm LEDís. Links below.

(X2) https://sonofarm.com/product/sonofarm-spider-farmer-sf1000-pro-series-1000-full-spectrum-samsung-led-grow-light/
(X1) https://sonofarm.com/product/sonofarm-spider-farmer-sf4000-led-grow-light-full-spectrum-samsung-lm301b-diodes-meanwell-driver/

I just recently moved these trees outdoors after sitting a month or so indoors under these lights.







The same varieties outdoors show no signs of these, and are treated the same otherwise. Are these lights just too much? Can water pH do this? (Ones outside get some rain water obviously along with the hose) as I am on city water. Anyone recommend a good way to test soil pH?

Any input on this situation, Iíd appreciate it! Winters are usually incredibly hard, hoping to get through this next one without as much loss. Prepping is key! Lol.


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Those rooted cuttings went pretty fast. I will have to keep an eye on this section of the forum a little more closely. Of course, I need another plant like I need a hole in the head. :)

Definitely did! I plan to have more this summer! Lol its a disease I swear.

I do have some red finger limes coming up.. about a month out. waiting on some more top growth before selling.

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Looks pretty good! If you donít get any takers, pm me later this summer!

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted kaffir lime
« on: April 16, 2022, 08:40:15 AM »
Hershell is a straight G as well. Fantastic fellow! If he doesnít have it in stock, he likely has it in the back somewhere. He always gets me what I need it seems lol. I try not to buy from anywhere else.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO Miracle berry Plant
« on: April 15, 2022, 01:35:51 PM »
Hi Frank, I can't help with the plant, but I wanted to offer a suggestion--have you tried freeze-dried miracle berries? If you look on Amazon for "Miracle Berries by Snozzberry Farm" you'll see the good ones. I have a miracle berry plant and enjoy getting berries from it, but it produces at best 20-30 berries a year (it hates our chlorinated, alkaline water, and our cold winter--in Zone 5 you're going to have to keep it indoors half of the year). The freeze-dried ones are awesome for when you don't have fresh ones--they're much better than the lozenges made out of miracle berry extract.

I had the pleasure of trying fresh berries last year, ate a whole lemon with it, but scorched my throat lol as a lemon is still a lemon, but it really worked and tasted like lemonade!

I wanted a plant for sure, and keep in containers. more-so as a novelty, but I know the freeze dried fruit does not give as a potent effect. for the price as well, 10 freeze dried berries are around $15. I found a few plants for $50, but am waiting to see if any member might have a mature plant before I order from somewhere else. Containers isn't a problem as I already house various rare tropicals and citrus already here in Wisconsin haha.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / ISO Miracle berry Plant
« on: April 15, 2022, 07:37:14 AM »
Hello,

Looking to purchase a miracle berry mature plant if anyone might have one for sale? Shipping to Wisconsin. Spring is here and temps are warm enough!

Thanks!

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Want to buy fingerlime scions
« on: April 13, 2022, 03:34:28 PM »
are "green" and "red" fingerlimes still the only types available in the US?  I have yet to see anything else for sale, unless you count the "blood lime" and faustrime

I believe red and green are it. Blood Iíve seen only at Logees and one green world, but theyíre pricy. I think they have ďgiant greenĒ as well around. Iíve collected a few other colors, but had to jump through ALOT of hoops to get them.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted kaffir lime
« on: April 13, 2022, 03:32:12 PM »

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Rooted cuttings are sold, cuttings themselves are sparse! Itíll be another month or so before I can take more cuttings. I will have Australian red lime rooted cuttings available in the next month as well.

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I can cut some if youíre interested. I also have some rooted cuttings as well. Send a pm.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Half dead scion wood on a graft
« on: April 05, 2022, 08:38:37 PM »
Itís the first time Iíve seen it happen, so Iíll be interested as to see how it grows. I just imagine as the cells throughout the trunk elongate and multiply, the dead will not, so itíll slowly engulf the dead tissue and make a dip thatíll go around.

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Citrus General Discussion / Half dead scion wood on a graft
« on: April 04, 2022, 06:40:25 PM »
I recently grafted a satsuma, where I thought didnít take and it died off. To my amazement, it came back, well half of it came back. Seems that half the scion died up the middle and the other half is pushing and growing well. See pic below. Is it worth seeing what this tree will do? I know as it grows, the dead tissue will stay as it is, but will the live tissue slowly grow around it? Just thought it was interesting and wanted to hear some input from others.


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Thatís odd, my Kinzu had 100% germination. Some were germinating in the fruit lol. I peeled the husks off the seed and threw them in a baggie with a damp paper towel and they all sprouted very very well. I donít know the Ploidy status of the Kinzu, but being itís a wild species, Iíd assume itís diploid.

Walt, I currently have my last rooted cuttings spoken for, but I was thinking for $20 plus shipping. Cuttings are about 6 months old now. Iíll have more in the future I hope! I do have several seedlings though ranging from 1-4Ē. Pm me, we can work something out for seedlings if you wanted one.


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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / ISO Apple Scions
« on: February 28, 2022, 11:03:29 PM »
Looking for various varieties of apples! High chill is fine, live in zone 4A. I do have several things from tropical fruit (lots of citrus) to other unknown high productive apple scions, to rooted cuttings of citrus trees. Or willing to purchase outright.. I have an order of 20 rootstock coming in and hadnít thought about scions until now! Lol. Interested in just about anything! Prefer varieties that are semi-full self fertile (Granny Smith, golden delicious, etc.)

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