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Yep…I think the best bet is just order through Bellamy trees! No hassle at all! Seeds already in the US!

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I’m embarrassed to admit I have killed 5 mango trees either bought from known online nurseries or local nursery like Champa. As luvfig said most of these are likely from Florida which will thrive for 2 to 3 years then die. I did everything according to the growing mangos in ca thread, not letting it fruit, afternoon shade, winter protect, etc. Mine property has sandy soil. I have avacado, citrus, anonna trees fruiting and growing well. I just purchased 5 turpentine seeds and buried them in the ground 18 inches. I’m impatient and wants some home grown mangos while i still have teeth.
18 inches seems a bit deep to plant the seeds. They will die.
I have a m-4 on Kent rootstock I can send you
I wish you the best in growing mangoes!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit Identification please
« on: June 27, 2022, 04:50:55 PM »





From the Mexican jungles
Haven’t tasted it
Small like a pea

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That is great news! Nice job NissanVersa!!

Re identity: Then what is g. intermedia?

I concur with elouicious, understood them as being different: g. intermedia is lemon drop mangosteen, and g. brasiliensis is superior lemon drop.

Have them both and others, they appear distinct even amonst similar looking garcinias.
I by no means am an expert…I’m just relaying info from what he thinks…the fruits do look different, but I’ve seen (and tasted) several variations going from very round to slightly pointed to very pointed. And some are orange and some are very yellow. Differs from tree to tree. Check out his videos.

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I thought intermedia and brasiliensis were the lemondrop mangosteen and superior lemondrop mangosteen respectively-

I am not an expert but FLNative on here sells them as 2 different fruits and they definitely were distinct when I got them from him
So as to Adam, he believes that the lemon drop is g.brasiliensis and there is the superior form with the larger fruit and elongated nipple and the regular form which is more spherical. Same species, but different varieties. Different types but same species, kind of like apples with many different types but same species?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Garcinia/Rheedia Budwood
« on: June 26, 2022, 09:51:47 PM »
To clarify-

I have all of these plants and am looking for scions from a mature fruiting (preferably hermaphroditic but I'll take what I can get) tree in order to decrease the amount of time to fruit

I have a small lucs I can ship to you…I had imbe seeds but they are all sold.
I’d suggest looking for g.hombroniana- it’s my favorite garcinia fruit! I’ve been fortunate to eat around 8 different types of garcinias lol I have to brag coming from someone who lives in TN!
I’ve stayed away from the genus somewhat as they are slow growing and some are ultra tropical!
I believe its been renamed to celebica and is on the list  :P
Ahh thanks! I believe they are desperate species as discussed previously and on fb. I could be wrong though. Good luck with grafting. I failed with g.mangostana to lucs. Take of achacha to seashore and lucs on brasiliensis

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Garcinia/Rheedia Budwood
« on: June 26, 2022, 09:43:42 PM »
I have a small lucs I can ship to you…I had imbe seeds but they are all sold.
I’d suggest looking for g.hombroniana- it’s my favorite garcinia fruit! I’ve been fortunate to eat around 8 different types of garcinias lol I have to brag coming from someone who lives in TN!
I’ve stayed away from the genus somewhat as they are slow growing and some are ultra tropical!

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I assume you are referring to the lemon drop mangosteen…although not correct, many people still use the name intermedia to describe that fruit. This is according to the prince himself.
I gotta say congrats to that! They grow so slow outside of tropical zones! Mine is pushing along slowly. I hope for fruits soon.

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Am I remembering right that pitangatuba can be used as rootstock for grafting other eugenias?
Nope. Can’t graft anything much within the genus…so much diversity. Pitangatuba to pitanga tuba and that’s it. Can’t even graft pitanga to it!

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I tried a fruit called “Hagis” Syzygium tripinnatum But it’s also listed as Eugenia victoriana?

The plant was erroneously labeled as Eugenia victoriana when it arrived at the Park. There is apparently some question as to the "tripannatum" species identification.

Thank you for the info! I was also curious about the 2 trees labeled Rheedia Sp and 1 Garcinia Sp. I heard 1 is lemon drop mangosteen. I’m assuming it’s the Garcinia Sp? Do you know what the Rheedia are?
F and S labeling is outdated and not the best. Rheedia was classified into garcinia genus back then…also when I was there they were calling rollinia as rollinia deliciosa. But now it’s not rollinia it’s annona muscosa…I’ve heard people say they like rollinia classified as a separate genus.

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I got some to sell or trade. Taste very good like raspberry, but has a tropical hint.
Let me know!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help ID’ing this plant
« on: June 25, 2022, 06:11:02 PM »
Looks like wax jambu
Not rose apple as the leaves are wider

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How does the okosapo smell? Fully ripened it smells like burnt sugar. Cinnamon apple is towards the back…

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit & Spice Is Really Nice
« on: June 25, 2022, 10:44:29 AM »
! Seashore mangosteen is the best. Properly ripened it tastes like sour green apple flavor!
White aspire is also decent, but yes, not the best fruit anyway.

When going to the park, I’d recommend taking the tour and walking by yourself as the tour guides pick fruit…and then you can go everywhere else they didn’t go.

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26*3=78
That tree would sell for around that…if ya really want it, consider buying half the spots!

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Nice deal on that Yangmei!

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Why is your tree sick? *notes new growth flush of brownish leaves*
No, the tree is making new leaves

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Monster Abiu
« on: June 23, 2022, 12:37:31 PM »



Abiu nice size but not my favorite fruit! From PR large fruit seedling selection!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB- mango scions for SoCal
« on: June 22, 2022, 11:39:25 PM »
I have several orange essence I could spare. $4 per scion $7 shipping minimum order 3 scions please.
Also have Mallika
And ndm-4
I’ll need to wait more…new flush, or not hardened enough. I will need to prune them back, so I’ll let you know then. Thanks!

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It may be a cheesy tourist attraction, but I really love Robert Is Here.  I bought a bunch of miracle fruit bushes at half the price of other places and they were great plants.  They have lots of fruit to sample, too.
I just really admire someone who started out selling fruit at the age of 6 and is still going strong 60 years later.

Carolyn
I have to second this. I was down there in first grade lol! He personally took the time to drive to his farms and get me a coconut tree!

If you want to get fruit head down krome ave…basically anywhere between fruit and spice park and Everglades…Lara farms and other nurseries dot the landscape everywhere. Lots of fruit vendors last time I was there a couple years back.

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Mine pushed within a week of grafting. Quality scions and rootstock go a long way!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB- mango scions for SoCal
« on: June 21, 2022, 10:12:06 PM »
I have several orange essence I could spare. $4 per scion $7 shipping minimum order 3 scions please.
Also have Mallika
And ndm-4

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Nice trees! I imported seeds only to find them rotten…one day…

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I got some cool stuff to trade.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia seedling dieback
« on: June 21, 2022, 11:33:18 AM »
Fresh Seeds.... Really makes the difference.
Although not convenient for everyone...
it's best when you can eat the fruit and then plant the seed right away.
Much higher germination rate.
I can't tell you how much money and time I've wasted over the past years trying to sprout Old seeds someone was selling on ebay.
Best to find a trusted grower to get fresh seeds from and then plant them as soon as possible after harvest.

Kevin
I can agree to that, but the rare stuff coming from Brazil and such is old…the seeds can be of good quality, just harder to sprout. Maybe there is a correlation between seed age? I’m not sure as if they are stored correctly, they can last a while. I’m assuming the main cause is from change in climate difference.

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